IBM Virtualization Engine

2004-05-06 Thread Ferguson, Neale
An interesting description of the technology from the latest e-Server magazine: "The new IBM* Virtualization Engine*, made possible by the POWER* Hypervisor, combines existing offerings, new technologies, new consoles, runtimes and more. The multiplatform functionality of the POWER Hyper

Re: IBM Virtualization Engine

2004-04-29 Thread Phil Payne
>> "Is this simply an extension of LPAR technology, or is >> it z/VM like hipervisor in the firmware? Is there >> anything new here for z/Series? Again, z/OS is >> mentioned, z/VM is not." > The "virtualization" is not the kind we're used in > VMWARE or z/VM or LPARs where a platform runs many >

Re: IBM Virtualization Engine

2004-04-29 Thread Phil Payne
> It sounds more like an emulation layer in the middle that's able to appear > as Intel, RS/6000, AS/400, and zSeries, and a hypervisor (probably more > like LPAR than VM). And I suspect the reference to z/OS really means any > zSeries OS. Think how much money they could save if all their platfor

IBM Virtualization Engine

2004-04-28 Thread Jim Elliott
Scott: > What really struck me was that z/OS, Linux, Windows, AIX, Solaris > and OS/400 were all mentioned, but z/VM was not. What the ? z/VM is the hypervisor layer for VE on zSeries. I know it could have been mentioned by name, but neither was LPAR. > Is this simply an extension of LPAR te

Re: IBM Virtualization Engine

2004-04-28 Thread Jim Elliott
> The "virtualization" is not the kind we're used in VMWARE or z/VM or > LPARs where a platform runs many copies of the different OS's. > What this appears to be is a "virtual" layer between the OS/hardware > and the application. The applications develop to the "virtualization > layer" specs and h

Re: IBM Virtualization Engine

2004-04-28 Thread Jim Elliott
I knew we were being to vague in this announcement (or technically preview). Virtualization Engine (VE) is TWO things. First, it is a set of VE Systems Technologies that include hypervisors. Second, it is a set of VE Systems Services which are designed to make it easier to manage these systems as a

Re: IBM Virtualization Engine

2004-04-28 Thread Richard Higson
On Wed, Apr 28, 2004 at 12:24:46PM -0700, Jim Sibley wrote: > Subject: Re: IBM Virtualization Engine > Scott wrote: > [...] > > What this appears to be is a "virtual" layer between > the OS/hardware and the application. The applications > develop to the "virtua

Re: IBM Virtualization Engine

2004-04-28 Thread Terrence W. Zellers
> It sounds more like an emulation layer in the middle that's able to appear > as Intel, RS/6000, AS/400, and zSeries, and a hypervisor (probably more > like LPAR than VM). And I suspect the reference to z/OS really means any > zSeries OS. Think how much money they could save if all their platfo

Re: IBM Virtualization Engine

2004-04-28 Thread David Boyes
> You make this sound like a super BIOS, or perhaps a microkernel. It's an abstraction layer. Kind of like comparing UNIT=DISK vs UNIT=3390; the system figures out the Right Thing to Do based on the other parms fed to it. > Speculating under tinfoil (which I always keep handy) I see this as a > p

Re: IBM Virtualization Engine

2004-04-28 Thread Lee Stewart
At 11:51 AM 4/28/2004, "Ledbetter, Scott E" wrote: Not to call anyone at IBM an idiot, but they obviously have some writers very adept at using thousands of words to say "Virtually" (HA!) nothing. Nothing new... Back when it used to be called vapor-ware Is this simply an extension of LPAR t

Re: IBM Virtualization Engine

2004-04-28 Thread David Andrews
On Wed, 2004-04-28 at 15:24, Jim Sibley wrote: > What this appears to be is a "virtual" layer between > the OS/hardware and the application. You make this sound like a super BIOS, or perhaps a microkernel. Speculating under tinfoil (which I always keep handy) I see this as a potential big win for

Re: IBM Virtualization Engine

2004-04-28 Thread Jim Sibley
Scott wrote: "Is this simply an extension of LPAR technology, or is it z/VM like hipervisor in the firmware? Is there anything new here for z/Series? Again, z/OS is mentioned, z/VM is not." The "virtualization" is not the kind we're used in VMWARE or z/VM or LPARs where a platform runs many copi

IBM Virtualization Engine

2004-04-28 Thread Ledbetter, Scott E
Ok, I read the official "Preview Announcement" for the IBM Virtualization Engine. http://www-306.ibm.com/common/ssi/OIX.wss?DocURL=http://d03xhttpcl001g.bould er.ibm.com/common/ssi/rep_ca/6/897/ENUS204-096/index.html&InfoType=AN&InfoSu bType=CA&InfoDesc=Announcement+Le