Re: IND$FILE? (was: RE: 3270 console confusion)

2008-08-11 Thread Sam Bass
Sent: Sunday, August 10, 2008 3:54 PM To: LINUX-390@VM.MARIST.EDU Subject:Re: IND$FILE? (was: RE: 3270 console confusion) I've never used kermit, so I'm not understanding how that would work in the particular situation we're talking about: - Linux guest on z/VM - No working Linux

Re: IND$FILE? (was: RE: 3270 console confusion)

2008-08-10 Thread David Boyes
I will point out again that Kermit does exactly this; exists for many platforms, and possesses a server mode that allows it to be remotely operated... As in CMS, IND$FILE on Linux could simply use Diag 0x58 to write the 3270 data stream. Then it could take advantage of a 3215-style login to

Re: IND$FILE? (was: RE: 3270 console confusion)

2008-08-10 Thread Mark Post
On 8/10/2008 at 8:33 AM, in message [EMAIL PROTECTED], David Boyes [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I will point out again that Kermit does exactly this; exists for many platforms, and possesses a server mode that allows it to be remotely operated... As in CMS, IND$FILE on Linux could simply

Re: IND$FILE? (was: RE: 3270 console confusion)

2008-08-10 Thread Sharon Chen
: Linux on 390 Port [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Mark Post Sent: Sunday, August 10, 2008 7:35 PM To: LINUX-390@VM.MARIST.EDU Subject: Re: IND$FILE? (was: RE: 3270 console confusion) On 8/10/2008 at 8:33 AM, in message [EMAIL PROTECTED], David Boyes [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I will point

Re: IND$FILE? (was: RE: 3270 console confusion)

2008-08-10 Thread Alan Altmark
On Sunday, 08/10/2008 at 12:36 EDT, Mark Post [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I've never used kermit, so I'm not understanding how that would work in the particular situation we're talking about: - Linux guest on z/VM - No working Linux network connection - So, only connection is via the z/VM

Re: IND$FILE? (was: RE: 3270 console confusion)

2008-08-10 Thread McKown, John
[snip] I've never used kermit, so I'm not understanding how that would work in the particular situation we're talking about: - Linux guest on z/VM - No working Linux network connection - So, only connection is via the z/VM TCP/IP stack - You want to pull a file from the Linux guest, edit

Re: IND$FILE? (was: RE: 3270 console confusion)

2008-08-10 Thread David Boyes
I've never used kermit, so I'm not understanding how that would work in the particular situation we're talking about: - Linux guest on z/VM - No working Linux network connection - So, only connection is via the z/VM TCP/IP stack - You want to pull a file from the Linux guest, edit it, and

Re: IND$FILE? (was: RE: 3270 console confusion)

2008-08-09 Thread Rob van der Heij
On Fri, Aug 8, 2008 at 7:54 PM, McKown, John [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Regardless of the license on x3270, you can look at the code to reverse engineer / document the protocol. If you write your code from the ground up, then you can license it however you want. It's only if you borrow code

Re: IND$FILE? (was: RE: 3270 console confusion)

2008-08-09 Thread Robin Atwood
On Saturday 09 Aug 2008, McKown, John wrote: I just had one of my flashes of insight (or is that insanity?). Anyway, this whole thing about using the 3270 interface is for when TCPIP access is not possible for some reason. Many want to use the various full screen editors to fix some files. So,

Re: IND$FILE? (was: RE: 3270 console confusion)

2008-08-09 Thread Robin Atwood
On Saturday 09 Aug 2008, McKown, John wrote: I just had one of my flashes of insight (or is that insanity?). Anyway, this whole thing about using the 3270 interface is for when TCPIP access is not possible for some reason. Many want to use the various full screen editors to fix some files. So,

Re: IND$FILE? (was: RE: 3270 console confusion)

2008-08-09 Thread Mark Post
On 8/9/2008 at 8:50 AM, in message [EMAIL PROTECTED], McKown, John [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: -snip- Right. That is what IND$FILE does. It transfers files via a 3270 data stream and is therefore usable over a 3270 zLinux console. The problem being, that there needs to be a program on the Linux

Re: IND$FILE? (was: RE: 3270 console confusion)

2008-08-09 Thread Robin Atwood
On Saturday 09 Aug 2008, Mark Post wrote: Right. That is what IND$FILE does. It transfers files via a 3270 data stream and is therefore usable over a 3270 zLinux console. The problem being, that there needs to be a program on the Linux side that will perform the host side of the

Re: IND$FILE? (was: RE: 3270 console confusion)

2008-08-09 Thread Robin Atwood
On Saturday 09 Aug 2008, McKown, John wrote: Right. That is what IND$FILE does. It transfers files via a 3270 data stream and is therefore usable over a 3270 zLinux console. No. IND$FILE transfers data over the network connection to your 3270 emulator, PC/3270 or whatever. The HMC or VM does

Re: IND$FILE? (was: RE: 3270 console confusion)

2008-08-09 Thread Mark Post
On 8/9/2008 at 1:21 PM, in message [EMAIL PROTECTED], Robin Atwood [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Saturday 09 Aug 2008, Mark Post wrote: Right. That is what IND$FILE does. It transfers files via a 3270 data stream and is therefore usable over a 3270 zLinux console. The problem being, that

Re: IND$FILE? (was: RE: 3270 console confusion)

2008-08-09 Thread Alan Altmark
On Saturday, 08/09/2008 at 06:48 EDT, Robin Atwood [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Saturday 09 Aug 2008, McKown, John wrote: Right. That is what IND$FILE does. It transfers files via a 3270 data stream and is therefore usable over a 3270 zLinux console. No. IND$FILE transfers data over the

IND$FILE? (was: RE: 3270 console confusion)

2008-08-08 Thread McKown, John
I just had one of my flashes of insight (or is that insanity?). Anyway, this whole thing about using the 3270 interface is for when TCPIP access is not possible for some reason. Many want to use the various full screen editors to fix some files. So, my insight is this: how difficult would it be to

Re: IND$FILE? (was: RE: 3270 console confusion)

2008-08-08 Thread Erik N Johnson
Sounds like fun, do you have a pointer to some documentation for IND$FILE? Erik Johnson On Fri, Aug 8, 2008 at 12:06 PM, McKown, John [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I just had one of my flashes of insight (or is that insanity?). Anyway, this whole thing about using the 3270 interface is for when

Re: IND$FILE? (was: RE: 3270 console confusion)

2008-08-08 Thread David Boyes
What say? You could test the theory using Kermit, which already knows how to deal with 3215 and 3270 consoles. C-Kermit certainly works fine on Linux, and a lot of terminal emulators support it. -- For LINUX-390 subscribe /

Re: IND$FILE? (was: RE: 3270 console confusion)

2008-08-08 Thread daver++
From: Erik N Johnson [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sounds like fun, do you have a pointer to some documentation for IND$FILE? Good starting point: http://gsf-soft.com/Documents/IND$FILE.shtml -- For LINUX-390 subscribe / signoff / archive

Re: IND$FILE? (was: RE: 3270 console confusion)

2008-08-08 Thread McKown, John
-Original Message- From: Linux on 390 Port [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Erik N Johnson Sent: Friday, August 08, 2008 12:11 PM To: LINUX-390@VM.MARIST.EDU Subject: Re: IND$FILE? (was: RE: 3270 console confusion) Sounds like fun, do you have a pointer to some

Re: IND$FILE? (was: RE: 3270 console confusion)

2008-08-08 Thread Erik N Johnson
. On Fri, Aug 8, 2008 at 12:18 PM, McKown, John [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: -Original Message- From: Linux on 390 Port [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Erik N Johnson Sent: Friday, August 08, 2008 12:11 PM To: LINUX-390@VM.MARIST.EDU Subject: Re: IND$FILE? (was: RE: 3270 console

Re: IND$FILE? (was: RE: 3270 console confusion)

2008-08-08 Thread Erik N Johnson
: Friday, August 08, 2008 12:11 PM To: LINUX-390@VM.MARIST.EDU Subject: Re: IND$FILE? (was: RE: 3270 console confusion) Sounds like fun, do you have a pointer to some documentation for IND$FILE? Erik Johnson I don't know of any such documentation. I think that everybody other than IBM has

Re: IND$FILE? (was: RE: 3270 console confusion)

2008-08-08 Thread McKown, John
-Original Message- From: Linux on 390 Port [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Erik N Johnson Sent: Friday, August 08, 2008 12:51 PM To: LINUX-390@VM.MARIST.EDU Subject: Re: IND$FILE? (was: RE: 3270 console confusion) Okay, I read the license for x3270, it's very short

Re: IND$FILE? (was: RE: 3270 console confusion)

2008-08-08 Thread Erik N Johnson
on 390 Port [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Erik N Johnson Sent: Friday, August 08, 2008 12:51 PM To: LINUX-390@VM.MARIST.EDU Subject: Re: IND$FILE? (was: RE: 3270 console confusion) Okay, I read the license for x3270, it's very short, if not too terribly sweet. It's basically the old

Re: IND$FILE? (was: RE: 3270 console confusion)

2008-08-08 Thread Erik N Johnson
Port [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Erik N Johnson Sent: Friday, August 08, 2008 12:51 PM To: LINUX-390@VM.MARIST.EDU Subject: Re: IND$FILE? (was: RE: 3270 console confusion) Okay, I read the license for x3270, it's very short, if not too terribly sweet. It's basically the old school

Re: IND$FILE? (was: RE: 3270 console confusion)

2008-08-08 Thread Erik N Johnson
On Fri, Aug 8, 2008 at 12:54 PM, McKown, John [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: -Original Message- From: Linux on 390 Port [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Erik N Johnson Sent: Friday, August 08, 2008 12:51 PM To: LINUX-390@VM.MARIST.EDU Subject: Re: IND$FILE? (was: RE: 3270 console

Re: IND$FILE? (was: RE: 3270 console confusion)

2008-08-08 Thread Erik N Johnson
: Friday, August 08, 2008 12:51 PM To: LINUX-390@VM.MARIST.EDU Subject: Re: IND$FILE? (was: RE: 3270 console confusion) Okay, I read the license for x3270, it's very short, if not too terribly sweet. It's basically the old school BSD license, use modify redistribute at your discretion but retain

Re: IND$FILE? (was: RE: 3270 console confusion)

2008-08-08 Thread Ethan Lanz
] On Behalf Of Erik N Johnson Sent: Friday, August 08, 2008 12:51 PM To: LINUX-390@VM.MARIST.EDU Subject: Re: IND$FILE? (was: RE: 3270 console confusion) Okay, I read the license for x3270, it's very short, if not too terribly sweet. It's basically the old school BSD license, use modify