Interesting? to those who are subject to SOX

2006-01-19 Thread McKown, John
I haven't read the whitepaper, but the overview (link below) indicates that the author feels that companies using software which violates the GPL, may also be violating Sarbanes-Oxley as well. He specifically mentions the habit that vendors have of binary only Kernel loadable modules (think 3590

Re: Interesting? to those who are subject to SOX

2006-01-19 Thread Adam Thornton
On Jan 19, 2006, at 9:53 AM, McKown, John wrote: I haven't read the whitepaper, but the overview (link below) indicates that the author feels that companies using software which violates the GPL, may also be violating Sarbanes-Oxley as well. He specifically mentions the habit that vendors have

Re: Interesting? to those who are subject to SOX

2006-01-19 Thread Jay Maynard
On Thu, Jan 19, 2006 at 10:25:21AM -0600, Adam Thornton wrote: I haven't read the whitepaper, but the overview (link below) indicates that the author feels that companies using software which violates the GPL, may also be violating Sarbanes-Oxley as well. He specifically mentions the habit

Re: Interesting? to those who are subject to SOX

2006-01-19 Thread Adam Thornton
On Jan 19, 2006, at 10:30 AM, Jay Maynard wrote: On Thu, Jan 19, 2006 at 10:25:21AM -0600, Adam Thornton wrote: I haven't read the whitepaper, but the overview (link below) indicates that the author feels that companies using software which violates the GPL, may also be violating

Re: Interesting? to those who are subject to SOX

2006-01-19 Thread Peter Webb, Toronto Transit Commission
As has been pointed out on Groklaw, the report's title is incorrect. These issues do not affect Linux _users_, only Linux _distributors_, or companies embedding Linux in devices (who are in fact distributors). -Original Message- From: Linux on 390 Port [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf

Re: Interesting? to those who are subject to SOX

2006-01-19 Thread Adam Thornton
On Jan 19, 2006, at 10:58 AM, Peter Webb, Toronto Transit Commission wrote: As has been pointed out on Groklaw, the report's title is incorrect. These issues do not affect Linux _users_, only Linux _distributors_, or companies embedding Linux in devices (who are in fact distributors). It's

Re: Interesting? to those who are subject to SOX

2006-01-19 Thread Alan Altmark
On Thursday, 01/19/2006 at 09:53 CST, McKown, John [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I haven't read the whitepaper, but the overview (link below) indicates that the author feels that companies using software which violates the GPL, may also be violating Sarbanes-Oxley as well. He specifically mentions

Re: Interesting? to those who are subject to SOX

2006-01-19 Thread Alan Cox
On Iau, 2006-01-19 at 10:30 -0600, Jay Maynard wrote: I do not agree at all that LKMs almost certainly violate the GPL, considering that Linus has said they do not. Linus is only one copyright holder and he's hardly said they do not just that they maybe don't in some cases. Its an area of law

Re: Interesting? to those who are subject to SOX

2006-01-19 Thread Jay Maynard
On Thu, Jan 19, 2006 at 05:56:52PM +, Alan Cox wrote: On Iau, 2006-01-19 at 10:30 -0600, Jay Maynard wrote: I do not agree at all that LKMs almost certainly violate the GPL, considering that Linus has said they do not. Linus is only one copyright holder and he's hardly said they do not

Re: Interesting? to those who are subject to SOX

2006-01-19 Thread Post, Mark K
This guy (and his writings and his company) came up on an internal mailing list a while back, with people complaining about how he was bashing the GPL, etc. My reply then, and now, was that when you take into account his audience (companies that want to use an embedded OS in an appliance, and who

Re: Interesting? to those who are subject to SOX

2006-01-19 Thread Adam Thornton
On Jan 19, 2006, at 1:20 PM, Post, Mark K wrote: This guy (and his writings and his company) came up on an internal mailing list a while back, with people complaining about how he was bashing the GPL, etc. My reply then, and now, was that when you take into account his audience (companies that

Re: Interesting? to those who are subject to SOX

2006-01-19 Thread Post, Mark K
Not at all. Re-read it. He particularly talks about people creating appliances and shipping them, and what they need to do to be compliant with the GPL, or how to avoid it by using BSD. Mark Post -Original Message- From: Linux on 390 Port [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Adam

Re: Interesting? to those who are subject to SOX

2006-01-19 Thread Alan Cox
On Iau, 2006-01-19 at 14:20 -0500, Post, Mark K wrote: he's absolutely right. The BSD style licenses are much more business friendly than the GPL. Dangerous assumption. BSD licenses can be a lot less business friendly especially the older one. I worked for a certain networking appliance

Re: Interesting? to those who are subject to SOX

2006-01-19 Thread Post, Mark K
Alan, It's not an assumption, and you cut out my qualifying statements. It absolutely does depend on your goals. For companies that want to embed an OS and not disclose their own source code (for whatever reason), the GPL is absolutely out of the question. I'm not saying that there is anything