Re: Backup of Virtual Linuxes [WAS: Re: Red Hat AS 3.0]

2004-08-02 Thread Jim Elliott
> Not disputing your facts, Jim, but it would have been a lot > more helpful if the TSM server for Linux had included support > for escon-attached tape drives and the ability to communicate > with VM-based tape catalogs and tape management systems such as > VM:Tape. As it stands, it seems to me to

Re: Backup of Virtual Linuxes [WAS: Re: Red Hat AS 3.0]

2004-07-30 Thread Knutson, Sam
rtual Linuxes [WAS: Re: Red Hat AS 3.0] That is true, FDR Upstream does work, but it does not help those that don't have z/OS laying around! Larry Davis This email/fax message is for the sole use of the intended recipient(s) and may contain confidential and privileged i

Re: Backup of Virtual Linuxes [WAS: Re: Red Hat AS 3.0]

2004-07-30 Thread Wolfe, Gordon W
f Virtual Linuxes [WAS: Re: Red Hat AS 3.0] > > > So let me understand this correctly Tivoli=IBM - didn't IBM > > buy the Tivoli mark, kinda like they did with Lotus? VM=IBM. > > IBM makes the Virtualization software we all come to depend on > > to make the linux

Betr.: Re: Backup of Virtual Linuxes [WAS: Re: Red Hat AS 3.0]

2004-07-30 Thread Pieter Harder
[EMAIL PROTECTED] 07/30 5:22 >>> >James: > >IBM decided for what were felt to be good reasons to provide a >TSM server on Linux under z/VM rather than on CMS under z/VM. >There were technical reasons for this (which we will NOT go into >in this forum) which made it difficult to continue to en

Re: Backup of Virtual Linuxes [WAS: Re: Red Hat AS 3.0]

2004-07-30 Thread Jim Elliott
> So let me understand this correctly Tivoli=IBM - didn't IBM > buy the Tivoli mark, kinda like they did with Lotus? VM=IBM. > IBM makes the Virtualization software we all come to depend on > to make the linux equation work. So what we have here is IBM > saying they will not update their own so

Re: Backup of Virtual Linuxes [WAS: Re: Red Hat AS 3.0]

2004-07-30 Thread Rob van der Heij
In addition to running backups, you may want to look into restore as well ;-) I don't normally deal in hearsay, but this sounded realistic enough to repeat without trying it myself. Colleagues who tried to do a restore with their backup software found that it appeared to restore various system file

Re: Backup of Virtual Linuxes [WAS: Re: Red Hat AS 3.0]

2004-07-30 Thread Davis, Larry
Linuxes [WAS: Re: Red Hat AS 3.0] So let me understand this correctly Tivoli=IBM - didn't IBM buy the Tivoli mark, kinda like they did with Lotus? VM=IBM. IBM makes the Virtualization software we all come to depend on to make the linux equation work. So what we have here is IBM saying

Re: Backup of Virtual Linuxes [WAS: Re: Red Hat AS 3.0]

2004-07-30 Thread James Melin
L" cc Sent by: Linux on 390 Port Subject <[EMAIL PROTECTED] Re: Backup of Virtual Linuxes [WAS: IST.EDU> Re: Red Hat AS 3.0] 07/29/

Re: Backup of Virtual Linuxes [WAS: Re: Red Hat AS 3.0]

2004-07-30 Thread Seader, Cameron
This is true. -Original Message- From: Davis, Larry [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Friday, July 30, 2004 07:17 To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: Backup of Virtual Linuxes [WAS: Re: Red Hat AS 3.0] That is true, FDR Upstream does work, but it does not help those that don't have

Re: Backup of Virtual Linuxes [WAS: Re: Red Hat AS 3.0]

2004-07-30 Thread Davis, Larry
t: Re: Backup of Virtual Linuxes [WAS: Re: Red Hat AS 3.0] My thoughts exactly - they are awsome. -Cameron -Original Message- From: Knutson, Sam [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Friday, July 30, 2004 07:10 To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: Backup of Virtual Linuxes [WAS: Re: Red Hat AS 3.0] Di

Re: Backup of Virtual Linuxes [WAS: Re: Red Hat AS 3.0]

2004-07-30 Thread Seader, Cameron
My thoughts exactly - they are awsome. -Cameron -Original Message- From: Knutson, Sam [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Friday, July 30, 2004 07:10 To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: Backup of Virtual Linuxes [WAS: Re: Red Hat AS 3.0] Did you look at the UPSTREAM products from Innovation

Re: Backup of Virtual Linuxes [WAS: Re: Red Hat AS 3.0]

2004-07-30 Thread Knutson, Sam
Did you look at the UPSTREAM products from Innovation? http://www.fdr.com/ Best Regards, Sam Knutson, GEICO Performance and Availability Management (office) 301.986.3574 "Think big, act bold, start simple, grow fast..." ==

Re: Backup of Virtual Linuxes [WAS: Re: Red Hat AS 3.0]

2004-07-30 Thread Seader, Cameron
Virtual Linuxes [WAS: Re: Red Hat AS 3.0] On Thu, 2004-07-29 at 18:59, Tom Shilson wrote: > The server runs on VM. The ^^^ > server piece is frozen at some outdated release. ^^^ Yeah, that's pretty much to what I was refe

Re: Backup of Virtual Linuxes [WAS: Re: Red Hat AS 3.0]

2004-07-29 Thread Gregg C Levine
bi-Wan Kenobi "Use the Force, Luke."  Obi-Wan Kenobi > -Original Message- > From: Linux on 390 Port [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of > Adam Thornton > Sent: Friday, July 30, 2004 12:46 AM > To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > Subject: Re: [LINUX-390] Backup of Virtua

Re: Backup of Virtual Linuxes [WAS: Re: Red Hat AS 3.0]

2004-07-29 Thread Adam Thornton
On Thu, 2004-07-29 at 18:59, Tom Shilson wrote: > The server runs on VM. The ^^^ > server piece is frozen at some outdated release. ^^^ Yeah, that's pretty much to what I was referring. TSM would be a whole lot more useful if

Re: Backup of Virtual Linuxes [WAS: Re: Red Hat AS 3.0]

2004-07-29 Thread O'Brien, Dennis L
[EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Backup of Virtual Linuxes [WAS: Re: Red Hat AS 3.0] Linux on 390 Port <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote on 07/29/2004 06:13:14 PM: > On Thu, 2004-07-29 at 17:12, O'Brien, Dennis L wrote: > > We tried to find a backup product for Red Hat Linux, and couldn&#

Backup of Virtual Linuxes [WAS: Re: Red Hat AS 3.0]

2004-07-29 Thread Tom Shilson
Linux on 390 Port <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote on 07/29/2004 06:13:14 PM: > On Thu, 2004-07-29 at 17:12, O'Brien, Dennis L wrote: > > We tried to find a backup product for Red Hat Linux, and couldn't > find a GA product that met our needs (e.g. uses mainframe tape > drives, doesn't require a server o

Re: Red Hat AS 3.0

2004-07-29 Thread Adam Thornton
On Thu, 2004-07-29 at 17:12, O'Brien, Dennis L wrote: > We tried to find a backup product for Red Hat Linux, and couldn't find a GA product > that met our needs (e.g. uses mainframe tape drives, doesn't require a server on > z/OS). HEY, TIVOLI, ARE YOU LISTENING? ... ... No, of course not.

Re: Red Hat AS 3.0

2004-07-29 Thread O'Brien, Dennis L
Dennis O'Brien Bank of America "Mr. Gorbachev, tear down this wall"! -- Ronald Reagan, 12 Jun 1987 -Original Message- From: Linux on 390 Port [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Behalf Of Biggs, Eric J [ITS] Sent: Tuesday, July 27, 2004 12:42 To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: R

Re: Red Hat AS 3.0

2004-07-28 Thread Kohrs, Steven
On Wed, 2004-07-28 at 12:00, Ferguson, Neale wrote: > SLES9 should have NPTL. > Unfortunately, WebSphere 5.1 is incompatible with the 2.6 kernel of SLES 9. Now we're waiting for the WebSphere 6 release. We're crossing our fingers that WebSphere 6 will also have 64-bit support. If that's the cas

Re: Red Hat AS 3.0

2004-07-28 Thread Kohrs, Steven
On Wed, 2004-07-28 at 12:02, Post, Mark K wrote: > Understand that when SLES9 comes out this year, you will most probably > be > eligible to upgrade at no additional cost to you. SLES9 will be based > on a > 2.6 kernel which will have all the NPTL stuff built in (rather than > bolted > on the side

Re: Red Hat AS 3.0

2004-07-28 Thread Chris Cox
Ferguson, Neale wrote: SLES9 should have NPTL. It will also have the 2.6 kernel. Not sure how well that will play out on the z... but certainly has advantages on other smp. -- For LINUX-390 subscribe / signoff / archive access ins

Re: Red Hat AS 3.0

2004-07-28 Thread Post, Mark K
RHEL3. Mark Post -Original Message- From: Linux on 390 Port [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Kohrs, Steven Sent: Wednesday, July 28, 2004 11:10 AM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: Red Hat AS 3.0 On Wed, 2004-07-28 at 07:43, Graham Owen wrote: > Did you manage to see a performa

Re: Red Hat AS 3.0

2004-07-28 Thread Ferguson, Neale
SLES9 should have NPTL. -Original Message- By the time we worked though some nuances specific to RHEL 3 (MQ and WAS installation), our 30-day trial expired. While this effort was going on, upper management signed agreements with Novell for SLES 8. Our hopes were dashed. I wish the compa

Re: Red Hat AS 3.0

2004-07-28 Thread Kohrs, Steven
On Wed, 2004-07-28 at 07:43, Graham Owen wrote: > Did you manage to see a performance benefit from the Red Hat NPTL? > By the time we worked though some nuances specific to RHEL 3 (MQ and WAS installation), our 30-day trial expired. While this effort was going on, upper management signed agreemen

Re: Red Hat AS 3.0

2004-07-28 Thread Graham Owen
Steven Did you manage to see a performance benefit from the Red Hat NPTL? -- For LINUX-390 subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the message: INFO LINUX-390 or visit http://www.ma

Re: Red Hat AS 3.0

2004-07-27 Thread Chris Cox
James Melin wrote: When you get SLES9, I will be VERY interested in how you upgrade an existing SLES8 system to SLES9. A migration experience story would be nice to see. We're an ISV... likely will be a new install rather than an upgrade (sorry).

Re: Red Hat AS 3.0

2004-07-27 Thread Kohrs, Steven
On Tue, 2004-07-27 at 14:42, Biggs, Eric J [ITS] wrote: > For anyone that is using Red Hat AS 3.0 for zSeries, can you provide > feedback (positive or negative) about your experience with the > product? > We installed RHEL 3.0 to test a claim* that WebSphere ran twice as fast under

Re: Red Hat AS 3.0

2004-07-27 Thread David Boyes
> > For anyone that is using Red Hat AS 3.0 for zSeries, can you provide > > feedback (positive or negative) about your experience with > the product? It seems much better tested than the previous release, although support still seems to be spotty (the quality of the support var

Re: Red Hat AS 3.0

2004-07-27 Thread James Melin
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Re: Red Hat AS 3.0

2004-07-27 Thread Chris Cox
Biggs, Eric J [ITS] wrote: For anyone that is using Red Hat AS 3.0 for zSeries, can you provide feedback (positive or negative) about your experience with the product? Light years better than RHAS2.1 (or whatever you want to call their 7.x product on z). Might be better than SLES8. We're ge

Re: Red Hat AS 3.0

2004-07-27 Thread Davis, Larry
] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Tuesday, July 27, 2004 15:42 PM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Red Hat AS 3.0 For anyone that is using Red Hat AS 3.0 for zSeries, can you provide feedback (positive or negative) about your experience with the product? Many thanks. Eric Biggs Sprint

Red Hat AS 3.0

2004-07-27 Thread Biggs, Eric J [ITS]
For anyone that is using Red Hat AS 3.0 for zSeries, can you provide feedback (positive or negative) about your experience with the product? Many thanks. Eric Biggs Sprint -- For LINUX-390 subscribe / signoff / archive access