Which DASD is free

2014-06-21 Thread Cameron Seay
It's been a few months since I have done this, and I don't want to screw it up. I am allocating DASD for a guest. When I use the Q DASD FREE command, is all that is returned available for allocation? Thanks. -- For LINUX-390 su

Re: Which DASD is free

2014-06-21 Thread Scott Rohling
Short answer is not necessarily - it just shows you DASD which is currently in use by a user or the system.. If you share DASD with other LPARs - it could belong to them. It all depends on your DASD setup, and your methodology for allocation to guests. It also depends on whether you use a dire

Re: Which DASD is free

2014-06-21 Thread Scott Rohling
Sorry - should have been 'DASD which is currently NOT in use by a user or the system'.. Scott Rohling -- For LINUX-390 subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@vm.marist.edu with the message: INF

Re: Which DASD is free

2014-06-21 Thread Cameron Seay
Thanks Scott. What information is needed. There has to be a way to determine which volumes you can use. Thanks again. On Sat, Jun 21, 2014 at 9:05 PM, Scott Rohling wrote: > Sorry - should have been 'DASD which is currently NOT in use by a user or > the system'.. > > Scott Rohling > > > -

Re: Which DASD is free

2014-06-21 Thread Scott Rohling
Normally - the z/VM sysprog would have a good handle on that... All anyone can say is that QUERY DASD FREE just shows you what is 'currently' NOT in use by this system or a guest. It could be in use by another LPAR - it could be used by a guest that isn't currently running. In my various custo

Re: Which DASD is free

2014-06-21 Thread Cameron Seay
That is the situation. When the volumes were created, they were named to indicate what was free. But two folks did it, and one used the label FREE, but I forget what the other one was. I have enough labeled FREE for me to do what I need to do now, and I can e-mail the person who set this up for

Re: Which DASD is free

2014-06-21 Thread Alan Altmark
egards, Alan Altmark IBM Lab Services - Sent from my BlackBerry Handheld. - Original Message - From: Cameron Seay [cws...@gmail.com] Sent: 06/21/2014 09:18 PM AST To: LINUX-390@vm.marist.edu Subject: Re: [LINUX-390] Which DASD is free Thanks Scott. What information is

Re: Which DASD is free

2014-06-21 Thread Cameron Seay
s a good process to reliably track the life of a volume. > > > > Regards, > > Alan Altmark > IBM Lab Services > > - > Sent from my BlackBerry Handheld. > > > - Original Message - > From: Cameron Seay [cws...@gmail.com] > Sent: 06/21/2

Re: Which DASD is free

2014-06-21 Thread Scott Rohling
y have visible dasd that are not available. > > > > So it takes a good process to reliably track the life of a volume. > > > > > > > > Regards, > > > > Alan Altmark > > IBM Lab Services > > > > - > > Sent from my BlackBe

Re: Which DASD is free

2014-06-21 Thread Cameron Seay
the user who > has > > > it logs on. Likewise for DEVNO minidisks. > > > > > > And as Scott said, you may have visible dasd that are not available. > > > > > > So it takes a good process to reliably track the life of a volume. > > > > > >

Re: Which DASD is free

2014-06-22 Thread Mark Post
>>> On 6/22/2014 at 12:43 AM, Cameron Seay wrote: > So when I see free that is not a sysprog assigned label, but an indication > of being uninitialized? Possibly. The guy who maintains our System z box will run cpfmtxa on a DASD volume that has been released from use and assign a volser of FRE

Re: Which DASD is free

2014-06-22 Thread Scott Rohling
e a dedicated user volume will show FREE until the user who > > has > > > > it logs on. Likewise for DEVNO minidisks. > > > > > > > > And as Scott said, you may have visible dasd that are not available. > > > > > > > > So it takes

Re: Which DASD is free

2014-06-22 Thread Mike Myers
a volume. Regards, Alan Altmark IBM Lab Services - Sent from my BlackBerry Handheld. - Original Message - From: Cameron Seay [cws...@gmail.com] Sent: 06/21/2014 09:18 PM AST To: LINUX-390@vm.marist.edu Subject: Re: [LINUX-390] Which DASD is free Thanks Scott. Wha

Re: Which DASD is free

2014-06-22 Thread John Campbell
Ah, yes, so Q DASD FREE will report on free space... but will it return CONTIGUOUS free space (ISTR minidisk granularity is in "cylinders")? Or will it just be the count of cylinders (or whatever "granularity" the device, like FBA, which might not be reported in cylinders) that haven't been alloca

Re: Which DASD is free

2014-06-22 Thread Mark Post
>>> On 6/22/2014 at 08:37 AM, John Campbell wrote: > Ah, yes, so Q DASD FREE will report on free space... but will it return > CONTIGUOUS free space (ISTR minidisk granularity is in "cylinders")? Or > will it just be the count of cylinders (or whatever "granularity" the > device, like FBA, which

Re: Which DASD is free

2014-06-22 Thread John Campbell
Ah, yes, "DASD volumes"... (chuckles) I spent a LOT of time doing AIX support-- both before p5 hypervisors and after-- so, really, what is a "DASD volume"? Is it a physical volume? (Which, using a hypervisor, may be mapped into a logical volume, or, via a SAN, is declared "physical" also despit

Re: Which DASD is free

2014-06-22 Thread Cameron Seay
That's why I love this forum. When I have a question that on the surface may appear to be pretty simple, you guys educate me in that with enterprise technologies, nothing is simple. These answers have been extremely insightful. The main guy that sets our physical environment up chimed in and and

Re: Which DASD is free

2014-06-23 Thread Tom Huegel
I wrote a REXX program that reads through a disk (any disk that can be attached or linked to a CMS vm) and reports what is finds. i.e. VOL1 labels, CMS1 labels, CMS files, gaps between labels, overlaps etc. It is not the first defense, but I find it helpful to answer the question 'What's On MY Disk