Re: Windows an linux under z/VM

2009-03-27 Thread Daniel Vila
or curses. Florian Bilek florian.bi...@gmail.com Sent by: Linux on 390 Port LINUX-390@VM.MARIST.EDU 24/03/2009 14:00 Please respond to Linux on 390 Port LINUX-390@VM.MARIST.EDU To LINUX-390@VM.MARIST.EDU cc Subject Re: Windows an linux under z/VM

Re: Windows an linux under z/VM

2009-03-27 Thread Florian Bilek
/2009 14:00 Please respond to Linux on 390 Port LINUX-390@VM.MARIST.EDU To LINUX-390@VM.MARIST.EDU cc Subject Re: Windows an linux under z/VM The trick does QEMU (http://www.nongnu.org/qemu/). All other virtualisation options that are currently available do not provide you with X86

Re: Windows an linux under z/VM

2009-03-25 Thread Patrick Spinler
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 John Summerfield wrote: This isn't really the place to discuss these diffulties, it's sufficient to say that virtualisation on Linux isn't ready yet. Not with XEN, not work KVM and not using the vir* tools. Mhh ... I'd say this depends to extent

Re: Windows an linux under z/VM

2009-03-24 Thread David Boyes
On 3/23/09 11:46 PM, Shane Ginnane sginn...@isi.com.au wrote: Interesting, but requires Xen or KVM to work in current form, and relies on being able to just pass through instructions to the base hardware for things that don't require privileged ops. I don't see that as an intrinsic

Re: Windows an linux under z/VM

2009-03-24 Thread Mark Post
On 3/23/2009 at 11:46 PM, Shane Ginnane sginn...@isi.com.au wrote: -snip- No doubt Mark is correct re the usability of the z KVM at present, but one would imagine that has to improve. I wasn't speaking about KVM on any particular architecture. It's a nightmare for everyone. If Xen is any

Re: Windows an linux under z/VM

2009-03-24 Thread Alan Cox
On Tue, 24 Mar 2009 10:31:39 -0600 Mark Post mp...@novell.com wrote: On 3/23/2009 at 11:46 PM, Shane Ginnane sginn...@isi.com.au wrote: -snip- No doubt Mark is correct re the usability of the z KVM at present, but one would imagine that has to improve. I wasn't speaking about KVM on any

Re: Windows an linux under z/VM

2009-03-24 Thread Florian Bilek
Hugo, The trick does QEMU (http://www.nongnu.org/qemu/). All other virtualisation options that are currently available do not provide you with X86 architecture on z/Series. I tried Windows 2003 Server to install and this was working. Depending on which z/Series machine you have, the emulation is

Re: Windows an linux under z/VM

2009-03-24 Thread John Summerfield
Alan Cox wrote: On Tue, 24 Mar 2009 10:31:39 -0600 Mark Post mp...@novell.com wrote: On 3/23/2009 at 11:46 PM, Shane Ginnane sginn...@isi.com.au wrote: -snip- No doubt Mark is correct re the usability of the z KVM at present, but one would imagine that has to improve. I wasn't speaking

Windows an linux under z/VM

2009-03-23 Thread Hugo Luis Vitelli
Hi guys .. I'm going to ask a question half crazy but I want to know if you can virtualize Windows on a Linux on z / VM and if any place any evidence of this. Thanks Hugo Luis Vitelli Mainframe Server Management System Support - Solutions

Re: Windows an linux under z/VM

2009-03-23 Thread Richard J Moore
: (+44) (0)1962-817072 From: Hugo Luis Vitelli vitel...@ar.ibm.com To: LINUX-390@VM.MARIST.EDU Date: 23/03/2009 19:16 Subject: Windows an linux under z/VM Hi guys .. I'm going to ask a question half crazy but I want to know if you can virtualize Windows on a Linux on z / VM and if any place any

Re: Windows an linux under z/VM

2009-03-23 Thread Erik N Johnson
Certified IT Specialist IBM z/VM CP Development MOBEX: 37264807; Mobile (+44) (0)7739-875237 Office: (+44) (0)1962-817072 From: Hugo Luis Vitelli vitel...@ar.ibm.com To: LINUX-390@VM.MARIST.EDU Date: 23/03/2009 19:16 Subject: Windows an linux under z/VM Hi guys .. I'm going to ask

Re: Windows an linux under z/VM

2009-03-23 Thread Richard Pinion
Check out the IBM-Main list concerning the Mantissa announcement. --- e...@uptownmilitia.com wrote: From: Erik N Johnson e...@uptownmilitia.com To: LINUX-390@VM.MARIST.EDU Subject: Re: Windows an linux under z/VM Date: Mon, 23 Mar 2009 15:10:27 -0500 Could Xen run on z/Linux? I don't see why

Re: Windows an linux under z/VM

2009-03-23 Thread Huegel, Thomas
, CITP Senior Certified IT Specialist IBM z/VM CP Development MOBEX: 37264807; Mobile (+44) (0)7739-875237 Office: (+44) (0)1962-817072 From: Hugo Luis Vitelli vitel...@ar.ibm.com To: LINUX-390@VM.MARIST.EDU Date: 23/03/2009 19:16 Subject: Windows an linux under z/VM Hi guys .. I'm

Re: Windows an linux under z/VM

2009-03-23 Thread David Boyes
On 3/23/09 3:59 PM, Richard J Moore richardj_mo...@uk.ibm.com wrote: 1) there's a Z port of WIndows, which I doubt There was one in the NT 3.51 days. IBM and Microsoft couldn't agree on some things so it was never released. Talk to Jim Porell about it. He's good for at least an hour rant on

Re: Windows an linux under z/VM

2009-03-23 Thread Ken Porowski
What was presented at SHARE. 9162 - x86 Virtualization Technology for System z http://ew.share.org/proceedingmod/abstract.cfm?abstract_id=19229 -Original Message- Richard Pinion Check out the IBM-Main list concerning the Mantissa announcement. Hugo Luis Vitelli Hi guys .. I'm

Re: Windows an linux under z/VM

2009-03-23 Thread Adam Thornton
On Mar 23, 2009, at 2:59 PM, Richard J Moore wrote: Not a chance unless: 1) there's a Z port of WIndows, which I doubt 2) there's an Intel emulator that runs under Z. Not heard of one. Richard Bah. #2 is old news. http://www.fsf.net/~adam/NT-on-390-desktop.png Back in 2002. You *can*

Re: Windows an linux under z/VM

2009-03-23 Thread Dave Jones
) (0)7739-875237 Office: (+44) (0)1962-817072 From: Hugo Luis Vitelli vitel...@ar.ibm.com To: LINUX-390@VM.MARIST.EDU Date: 23/03/2009 19:16 Subject: Windows an linux under z/VM Hi guys .. I'm going to ask a question half crazy but I want to know if you can virtualize Windows on a Linux on z

Re: Windows an linux under z/VM

2009-03-23 Thread John Summerfield
Huegel, Thomas wrote: -Original Message- From: Linux on 390 Port [mailto:linux-...@vm.marist.edu]on Behalf Of Erik N Johnson Sent: Monday, March 23, 2009 3:10 PM To: LINUX-390@VM.MARIST.EDU Subject: Re: Windows an linux under z/VM Could Xen run on z/Linux? I don't see why

Re: Windows an linux under z/VM

2009-03-23 Thread Shane Ginnane
Hi guys .. I'm going to ask a question half crazy but I want to know if you can virtualize Windows on a Linux on z / VM and if any place any evidence of this. If you want virtualization under *zLinux*, that appears to count out the (so far) vapourware from Mantissa. A few months back Redhat

Re: Windows an linux under z/VM

2009-03-23 Thread Mark Post
On 3/23/2009 at 4:10 PM, Erik N Johnson e...@uptownmilitia.com wrote: Could Xen run on z/Linux? I don't see why not. Not in it's current state. It started out too Intel/AMD focused. Now that Power development is ongoing, that's changed somewhat, but nothing has been done to make it work

Re: Windows an linux under z/VM

2009-03-23 Thread David Boyes
On 3/23/09 8:12 PM, Shane Ginnane sginn...@isi.com.au wrote: A few months back Redhat bought Qumranet - that gave them access to the Solid ICE product. No reason I can imagine it couldn't run (suitably adapted) on zLinux. See http://www.redhat.com/rhel/virtualization/Solid_ICE/ Interesting,

Re: Windows an linux under z/VM

2009-03-23 Thread Shane Ginnane
Interesting, but requires Xen or KVM to work in current form, and relies on being able to just pass through instructions to the base hardware for things that don't require privileged ops. I don't see that as an intrinsic problem. Remove z/VM from the equation and ... ? No doubt Mark is