On Tue, 2008-12-16 at 03:12 +0100, Ralf Mardorf wrote:
> . If I don't have knowledge I have to
> read and to ask, I just reported and asked, and get acidness.
no, thats not the issue. i think you don't understand that we (JACK)
developers see these issues reported day after day after day, not just
On Tue, Dec 16, 2008 at 12:31:22PM +0100, oc2...@arcor.de wrote:
> Am Dienstag, 16. Dezember 2008 schrieb Thomas Kuther:
>
> > @ oc2pus, jack in packman is broken, or YaST is. I set up a fresh
> > install in a virtual machine using 11.1RC1 and only added packman.
> >
> > Currently there is:
> > *
Hi Oc2pus :)
I'm sorry that I boiled over.
> Am Dienstag, 16. Dezember 2008 schrieb torb...@gmx.de:
>
>
>
>> just install a self built source OVER the stuff from the package.
>> and then run ldconfig as root.
>>
> but use ./configure --prefix=/usr in the configure step !
>
> otherwise yo
oc2...@arcor.de wrote:
> you need rpm -e --nodeps perhaps additionally the
> option --allmatches if packages are installed twice.
>
> than a package is removed and you have a temporary inconsitent system, but if
> you install immediately the other packages all will be fine
>
Thanx, I got thi
Paul Davis wrote:
> On Tue, 2008-12-16 at 03:12 +0100, Ralf Mardorf wrote:
>
>> . If I don't have knowledge I have to
>> read and to ask, I just reported and asked, and get acidness.
>>
>
> no, thats not the issue. i think you don't understand that we (JACK)
> developers see these issues re
Thomas Kuther wrote:
> On Di, 16.12.08 06:12 Ralf Mardorf wrote:
>
>
>> What I'm thinking of, isn't to erase any package, but I hope I used
>> the replace option not correct and that it will be possible to
>> replace jack2 libs by jack libs, or if I like to get jack2 installed
>> correctly, thi
oc2...@arcor.de wrote:
> nor the packman package or yast is broken...
>
> pulseaudio-module-jack has a (wrong ?) requires to jack instead libjack.so.1
> (or a other program in your system) . And as there are more than one provider
> for jack, yast pulls in the first provider for jack it finds.
>
On Tue, Dec 16, 2008 at 02:05:05PM +0100, torb...@gmx.de wrote:
>
> and this is only possible because, there are 2 packages, for libjack and
> jack. Why do you think we distibute them in one package ?
> They make no sense without each other.
>
> STOP SPLITTING JACK UP.
Sorry, this might have sou
On Tue, 2008-12-16 at 14:26 +0100, Clemens Ladisch wrote:
> > alsa-kernel/core/hrtimer.c:29: error: implicit declaration of function
> > ‘hrtimer_forward_now’
>
> Try this patch:
> http://git.alsa-project.org/?p=alsa-driver.git;a=commitdiff;h=27a32d8efa9a5e3dc4578584baea025e555859cc
>
Stuck at
What I did in alsa-kernel/core/hrtimer.c to get it to compile with
2.6.24.7-rt17
+/* Forward a hrtimer so it expires after the hrtimer's current now */
+static inline unsigned long hrtimer_forward_now(struct hrtimer *timer,
+ ktime_t interval)
+{
+ return hrtimer_forward(timer, timer->base->get_ti
On Tue, Dec 16, 2008 at 12:31:22PM +0100, oc2...@arcor.de wrote:
> Am Dienstag, 16. Dezember 2008 schrieb Thomas Kuther:
>
> > @ oc2pus, jack in packman is broken, or YaST is. I set up a fresh
> > install in a virtual machine using 11.1RC1 and only added packman.
> >
> > Currently there is:
> > *
Am Dienstag, 16. Dezember 2008 schrieb torb...@gmx.de:
> On Tue, Dec 16, 2008 at 12:31:22PM +0100, oc2...@arcor.de wrote:
> > Am Dienstag, 16. Dezember 2008 schrieb Thomas Kuther:
> > > @ oc2pus, jack in packman is broken, or YaST is. I set up a fresh
> > > install in a virtual machine using 11.1RC
Am Dienstag, 16. Dezember 2008 schrieb Thomas Kuther:
> @ oc2pus, jack in packman is broken, or YaST is. I set up a fresh
> install in a virtual machine using 11.1RC1 and only added packman.
>
> Currently there is:
> * pulseaudio-module-jack-0.9.12-8.5
> * libjack0-0.116.1-0.pm.1
>
> Now if I tick
While attemting to install alsa1.0.18a on a system based on Linux2.6.24,
I am stuck with:
alsa-kernel/core/hrtimer.c:29: error: implicit declaration of function
‘hrtimer_forward_now’
This function was introduced with kernel 2.6.25 - which also happens to
be the first kernel where RT-patches break
Jens M Andreasen wrote:
> While attemting to install alsa1.0.18a on a system based on Linux2.6.24,
> I am stuck with:
>
> alsa-kernel/core/hrtimer.c:29: error: implicit declaration of function
> ‘hrtimer_forward_now’
Try this patch:
http://git.alsa-project.org/?p=alsa-driver.git;a=commitdiff;h=27
On Di, 16.12.08 12:31 oc2...@arcor.de wrote:
> nor the packman package or yast is broken...
>
> pulseaudio-module-jack has a (wrong ?) requires to jack instead
> libjack.so.1 (or a other program in your system) . And as there are
> more than one provider for jack, yast pulls in the first provider
oc2...@arcor.de writes:
> and even jack2 is providing this scheme:
> http://trac.jackaudio.org/wiki/SuggestedPackagingApproach
I've changed the page and it now contains this paragraph:
All different releases of JACK should be considered internally
incompatible - that is, it should never be consi
Toni wrote:
> you need rpm -e --nodeps perhaps additionally the
> option --allmatches if packages are installed twice.
>
> than a package is removed and you have a temporary inconsitent system, but if
> you install immediately the other packages all will be fine :)
>
Thank you :)
as I have
On Di, 16.12.08 11:42 Thomas Kuther wrote:
> libjack0. zypper on the other side gets it right. See the screenshot!
> http://gimpel.ath.cx/~tom/jack_weirdness.png
>
Did I really write that zypper gets it right?
It would pull in jack2 even I tell it to install "jack", but at least
it wouldn't bre
Original subject: [LAD] backporting alsa1.0.18a
Jens M Andreasen wrote:
> While attemting to install alsa1.0.18a on a system based on Linux2.6.24,
> I am stuck with:
>
> alsa-kernel/core/hrtimer.c:29: error: implicit declaration of function
> ‘hrtimer_forward_now’
>
> This function was introduced
oc2...@arcor.de wrote:
>> STOP SPLITTING JACK UP.
> This "fetaure" was not packman's idea ...
>
> see openSuSE-shared-library policy:
> http://en.opensuse.org/Shared_Library_Packaging_Policy
This is one of the "bright" ideas adopted from Debian-based systems, but
I'm not at all convinced that it
On Di, 16.12.08 06:12 Ralf Mardorf wrote:
> What I'm thinking of, isn't to erase any package, but I hope I used
> the replace option not correct and that it will be possible to
> replace jack2 libs by jack libs, or if I like to get jack2 installed
> correctly, this hopefully will also be fine, if
Am Dienstag, 16. Dezember 2008 schrieb torb...@gmx.de:
> On Tue, Dec 16, 2008 at 12:31:22PM +0100, oc2...@arcor.de wrote:
> > Am Dienstag, 16. Dezember 2008 schrieb Thomas Kuther:
> > > @ oc2pus, jack in packman is broken, or YaST is. I set up a fresh
> > > install in a virtual machine using 11.1RC
oc2...@arcor.de wrote:
> Am Dienstag, 16. Dezember 2008 schrieb torb...@gmx.de:
>
>> On Tue, Dec 16, 2008 at 12:31:22PM +0100, oc2...@arcor.de wrote:
>>
>>> Am Dienstag, 16. Dezember 2008 schrieb Thomas Kuther:
>>>
@ oc2pus, jack in packman is broken, or YaST is. I set up a fres
oc2pus IF YOU are making music by using the Packman repositories and
nobody, but me run into trouble with your package, why has anybody but
you problems? I guess you don't make music using your own packages!
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oc2...@arcor.de wrote:
> You grab
> sentences from Paul and others from here and put them in a very very special
> context to fit your argumentation against SuSE distribution and especially
> the packman repository.
> http://www.linux-club.de/viewtopic.php?f=18&t=99521&p=605724#p605724
> And wor
Am Dienstag, 16. Dezember 2008 schrieb Jussi Laako:
> oc2...@arcor.de wrote:
> >> STOP SPLITTING JACK UP.
> >
> > This "fetaure" was not packman's idea ...
> >
> > see openSuSE-shared-library policy:
> > http://en.opensuse.org/Shared_Library_Packaging_Policy
>
> This is one of the "bright" ideas ad
A last statement!
I started with 11.1 RC to avoid that Suse again will be bad for
pro-audio and in two days there again will be a new stable release
that's totally invalid. All because I get bashes at Linux Club. I boiled
over here, yes and I'm still boiling ...
Have you ever made music with you
Ralf Mardorf wrote:
> A last statement!
>
> I started with 11.1 RC to avoid that Suse again will be bad for
> pro-audio and in two days there again will be a new stable release
> that's totally invalid. All because I get bashes at Linux Club. I boiled
> over here, yes and I'm still boiling ...
>
>
On Di, 16.12.08 20:17 Ralf Mardorf wrote:
> I go away from Linux Club, because I don't want this flame war! Why
> must it go on here?
Good, because you will be banned inbetween the next minutes anyway
after your last mails here, and that post there.
A lot of people here and there tried to find
Thomas Kuther wrote:
> On Di, 16.12.08 20:17 Ralf Mardorf wrote:
>
>
>> I go away from Linux Club, because I don't want this flame war! Why
>> must it go on here?
>>
>
> Good, because you will be banned inbetween the next minutes anyway
> after your last mails here, and that post there.
>
> > hmm... ok. it looks like libjack0-0.109.2 is not requiring
> > jack-0.109.2.
> >
> > and jack-0.109.2 only requires libjack0.so
> > which can be provided by libjack2 and libjack1.
> >
> > i consider this broken.
>
> just for the records:
> these are not packman packages.
> the packman package
oc2...@arcor.de wrote:
> Ok, I uploaded new packages for jack and jack2.
> They are now mutually exclusive and the user must change wich one to use.
> Formerly jack2 was handled as a update to jack.
>
> The "Requires" to the underlying library packages where already part of the
> packman package
torb...@gmx.de wrote:
> so lets drink some "virtual" beer together, and let this stuff
> rest. And Ralf, i hope that, you see that apart from pointing out
> the problem you did not help in solving this problem.
>
I'll drink some alcohol free real beer and maybe one with alcohol too.
A lot of p
torb...@gmx.de wrote:
> And Ralf, i hope that, you see that apart from pointing out
> the problem you did not help in solving this problem.
>
And I even wasn't the one who pointed out the problem, there were people
doing it before me, but nobody take care about them, because they didn't
boiled
Am Dienstag, 16. Dezember 2008 schrieb torb...@gmx.de:
> nedko also updated:
> http://trac.jackaudio.org/wiki/SuggestedPackagingApproach
>
> to make the fact more clear, that there MUST NOT be two versions,
> of libjack.so on the system.
>
> perhaps you can communicate this fact upstream to suse.
I'm not banned for some mailing list and some of the recipients are very
kind, but their lists are joined by people who maybe should pay
attention to this.
If you want people to report bugs, than
- don't laugh about them and say that they are the only one with that
problem and they should search
Ralf Mardorf wrote:
>
> I'm suggesting this because I misbehaved, when I asked because of a bug.
> Now I'm banned for a forum and a mailing list, but they grant me, that I
> have pointed out something that was unknown.
>
> But I wasn't the one who pointed out this bug, the web was full of posts
Hi Gustin :)
it's easy to get named a troll. What should a user do, that has troubles
with JACK?
I like the 64 Studio community, unfortunately the version for the 64
Studio 2.1 stable version is 0.103.
It's silly if a user reports a bug about that version, while the JACK
developers needs stateme
Gordon JC Pearce MM3YEQ wrote:
> That's because you made it clear you'd already pretty badly broken
> your system, and wouldn't actually do any of the things other posters
> had told you to do to fix it ;-)
No, the first reply was, that it's not true, that there was a bug for
the Packman JACK. But
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