Re: [LAD] User eXperience in Linux Audio

2015-04-23 Thread Hermann Meyer
Am 23.04.2015 um 13:49 schrieb Thorsten Wilms: On 23.04.2015 11:50, Vytautas Jancauskas wrote: Who would think that having to operate a circular knob by moving the mouse in a little circle is convenient? It's also a bit harder to implement. Is there some argument for it I am not aware of?

Re: [LAD] User eXperience in Linux Audio

2015-04-23 Thread Ivica Ico Bukvic
On 4/23/2015 2:10 PM, Hermann Meyer wrote: Am 23.04.2015 um 13:49 schrieb Thorsten Wilms: On 23.04.2015 11:50, Vytautas Jancauskas wrote: Who would think that having to operate a circular knob by moving the mouse in a little circle is convenient? It's also a bit harder to implement. Is

Re: [LAD] User eXperience in Linux Audio

2015-04-23 Thread Len Ovens
On Thu, 23 Apr 2015, Ivica Ico Bukvic wrote: One thing that comes really handy here is using a modifier, like shift or ctrl that does micro-adjustments vs. regular adjustments. Ideally, when this is coupled with an editable number box, you get the best of both worlds. Yes that is helpful...

Re: [LAD] User eXperience in Linux Audio

2015-04-23 Thread Hanspeter Portner
On 23.04.2015 20:51, Ivica Ico Bukvic wrote: One thing that comes really handy here is using a modifier, like shift or ctrl that does micro-adjustments vs. regular adjustments. Ideally, when this is coupled with an editable number box, you get the best of both worlds. Support for modifiers is

Re: [LAD] User eXperience in Linux Audio

2015-04-23 Thread Len Ovens
One issue is the placement of the knob relative to the edges of the screen and what you do when the pointer (ignoring touch) reaches them. That is why being able to adjust with both horizontal and vertical movement is a plus. Take a look at zita-mu1 for an example. It is also important to

Re: [LAD] User eXperience in Linux Audio

2015-04-23 Thread Fons Adriaensen
On Thu, Apr 23, 2015 at 07:47:50AM +0200, Thijs van severen wrote: People writing 'GUI standards' and trying to force them on everyone should have a look at e.g. a modern 'glass cockpit'. We are not talking about someone that suddenly decided to make up there own set rules and then tried

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Re: [LAD] User eXperience in Linux Audio

2015-04-23 Thread Vytautas Jancauskas
On Wed, Apr 22, 2015 at 11:39 PM, Fons Adriaensen f...@linuxaudio.org wrote: On Wed, Apr 22, 2015 at 06:34:25AM -0700, Len Ovens wrote: A knob is ok if it works similar. Knobs that insist that I touch the knob pointer and move that in a tiny arch to adjust and where the pointer flips from

Re: [LAD] User eXperience in Linux Audio

2015-04-23 Thread Louigi Verona
Gianfranco, Thanks for your comment. I wholeheartedly agree. Target audience is a super important question in these matters. On Thu, Apr 23, 2015 at 1:01 PM, Gianfranco Ceccolini gianfra...@portalmod.com.br wrote: Hi eveyone Although I normally refrain from entering this kind of

Re: [LAD] User eXperience in Linux Audio

2015-04-23 Thread Gordonjcp
On Thu, Apr 23, 2015 at 12:50:06PM +0300, Vytautas Jancauskas wrote: On Wed, Apr 22, 2015 at 11:39 PM, Fons Adriaensen f...@linuxaudio.org wrote: On Wed, Apr 22, 2015 at 06:34:25AM -0700, Len Ovens wrote: A knob is ok if it works similar. Knobs that insist that I touch the knob

Re: [LAD] User eXperience in Linux Audio

2015-04-23 Thread Gianfranco Ceccolini
Hi eveyone Although I normally refrain from entering this kind of discussions, I just can help myself from entering this particular one :-) I think that the point that most of us are missing is that, prior to decide the features on a particular product (a software in the discussed cases), one

Re: [LAD] User eXperience in Linux Audio

2015-04-23 Thread Thorsten Wilms
On 23.04.2015 12:01, Gianfranco Ceccolini wrote: I think that the point that most of us are missing is that, prior to decide the features on a particular product (a software in the discussed cases), one needs to decide THE TARGET AUDIENCE of such product. There are cases where defining a

Re: [LAD] User eXperience in Linux Audio

2015-04-23 Thread Thorsten Wilms
On 23.04.2015 11:50, Vytautas Jancauskas wrote: Who would think that having to operate a circular knob by moving the mouse in a little circle is convenient? It's also a bit harder to implement. Is there some argument for it I am not aware of? Properly done radial knobs do not force you to move

Re: [LAD] User eXperience in Linux Audio

2015-04-23 Thread Harry van Haaren
Hi *, Some good points, and interesting points of view. @Thijs van Severen: I completed various UX / UI modules during my undergrad - that, together with the most obvious lacks (IMO) of Linux Audio UX is what prompted my composing of that exact list. Tracey Hytry wrote: a brief splash screen

Re: [LAD] User eXperience in Linux Audio

2015-04-23 Thread tom
On Thu, April 23, 2015 22:59, Fons Adriaensen wrote: And in the case I mentioned (flight deck displays and user interfaces) were are talking about *specialists* in ergonomics who have conducted a not one but a series of studies and experiments involving a large group of *expert* users and