Re: [LAD] READ THIS IF YOU CARE ABOUT FREEDOM! Fwd: [LAA] Non DAW release including Non Session Manager (i.e. the real NSM)

2021-01-29 Thread rosea.grammostola
‐‐‐ Original Message ‐‐‐ On Friday, January 29, 2021 8:07 PM, Robin Gareus wrote: > On 1/29/21 6:18 PM, rosea.grammostola wrote: > > > Linuxaudio community has a serious problem > > Yes, the problem is that people here are not discussing Linux Audio > Development :) > > "The Linux Audio

Re: [LAD] NSM fork

2021-01-29 Thread Fons Adriaensen
On Fri, Jan 29, 2021 at 07:59:58PM +, John Rigg wrote: > I don't think the fork was handled very well, with antagonism > on both sides which could easily have been avoided with a > little forethought. Indeed. > The choice of the name New Session Manager and the re-use of > the NSM

Re: [LAD] READ THIS IF YOU CARE ABOUT FREEDOM! Fwd: [LAA] Non DAW release including Non Session Manager (i.e. the real NSM)

2021-01-29 Thread rosea.grammostola
> > I am writing to you to let you know that I will hereby remove you from > this mailing list and permanently ban you from it as well. I'm not going to discuss whether a post does or does not comply to the rules of a mailinglist. But banning and certainly, banning for life, is almost never a

[LAD] NSM fork

2021-01-29 Thread John Rigg
The recent fork of NSM (Non Session Manager) and the discussion around it has highlighted some issues in the Linux Audio community which I believe need to be addressed. I don't think the fork was handled very well, with antagonism on both sides which could easily have been avoided with a little

Re: [LAD] READ THIS IF YOU CARE ABOUT FREEDOM! Fwd: [LAA] Non DAW release including Non Session Manager (i.e. the real NSM)

2021-01-29 Thread Robin Gareus
On 1/29/21 6:18 PM, rosea.grammostola wrote: > Linuxaudio community has a serious problem Yes, the problem is that people here are not discussing Linux Audio Development :) "The Linux Audio Developers (LAD) list is dedicated to sound architecture and application development for the Linux

Re: [LAD] READ THIS IF YOU CARE ABOUT FREEDOM! Fwd: [LAA] Non DAW release including Non Session Manager (i.e. the real NSM)

2021-01-29 Thread Spencer Jackson
On Fri, Jan 29, 2021 at 10:19 AM rosea.grammostola < rosea.grammost...@protonmail.com> wrote: > > > > > I am writing to you to let you know that I will hereby remove you from > > this mailing list and permanently ban you from it as well. > > I'm not going to discuss whether a post does or does

Re: [LAD] READ THIS IF YOU CARE ABOUT FREEDOM! Fwd: [LAA] Non DAW release including Non Session Manager (i.e. the real NSM)

2021-01-29 Thread John Rigg
On Fri, Jan 29, 2021 at 05:46:11PM +0100, Thomas Brand wrote: > So that's why I ask you David Runge to undo the ban. The OP is not the core > of the problem. By removing OP, you remove symptoms only. I agree. Please undo the ban. John ___

Re: [LAD] READ THIS IF YOU CARE ABOUT FREEDOM! Fwd: [LAA] Non DAW release including Non Session Manager (i.e. the real NSM)

2021-01-29 Thread Thomas Brand
OMG, so silly. I've read the Mail vom J. Lilies with interest. It reflects to some degree similar issues I've encountered. Banning the OP because of this mail is insane. It gives hints on that Filipe Coelho is disliked also by others, because of several actions and deficiencies. So that's

Re: [LAD] READ THIS IF YOU CARE ABOUT FREEDOM! Fwd: [LAA] Non DAW release including Non Session Manager (i.e. the real NSM)

2021-01-29 Thread David Runge
Dear Jonathan, I am writing to you to let you know that I will hereby remove you from this mailing list and permanently ban you from it as well. We do not tolerate attempts to start a flame war and we also do not tolerate ad hominems. However, you are of course free to send a release note to