Re: [LAD] At the hands of Professor Keller and Raymond

2009-08-03 Thread rosea grammostola
On Mon, Aug 3, 2009 at 3:09 AM, Raymond Martin lase...@gmail.com wrote: One thing I think everyone can appreciate is when there is an issue concerning licensing that the responsible party does not turn around on another list/group and make it sound like the open source people are bad guys

Re: [LAD] At the hands of Professor Keller and Raymond

2009-08-03 Thread Raymond Martin
On Monday 03 August 2009 08:12:24 you wrote: On Mon, Aug 3, 2009 at 3:09 AM, Raymond Martin lase...@gmail.com wrote: I suggest that Raymond keep picking the GPL issues of Impro-Visor, till everything is fixed. I'm not saying that Raymond should join now or that he can't have his fork, but I

Re: [LAD] At the hands of Professor Keller and Raymond

2009-08-03 Thread rosea grammostola
On Mon, Aug 3, 2009 at 1:59 PM, Raymond Martin lase...@gmail.com wrote: On Monday 03 August 2009 08:12:24 you wrote: On Mon, Aug 3, 2009 at 3:09 AM, Raymond Martin lase...@gmail.com wrote: I suggest that Raymond keep picking the GPL issues of Impro-Visor, till everything is fixed. I'm

Re: [LAD] At the hands of Professor Keller and Raymond

2009-07-27 Thread Robert Keller
Ralf, I think you have a misimpression, created by laseray (aka biophotoray aka Raymond Martin), who apparently is trying to steal control of my project, known as Impro-Visor. I do want to cooperate, and will be looking into what I can do to repair the damage he is causing. However, I need

Re: [LAD] At the hands of Professor Keller and Raymond

2009-07-27 Thread laseray
On Monday 27 July 2009 11:12:05 Robert Keller wrote: Ralf, I think you have a misimpression, created by laseray (aka biophotoray aka Raymond Martin), who apparently is trying to steal control of my project, known as Impro-Visor. Calling what I am doing stealing is defamation of character. I

Re: [LAD] At the hands of Professor Keller and Raymond

2009-07-27 Thread Ralf Mardorf
Hi Raymond :) hi list :) lase...@gmail.com wrote: On Monday 27 July 2009 11:12:05 Robert Keller wrote: Ralf, I think you have a misimpression, created by laseray (aka biophotoray aka Raymond Martin), who apparently is trying to steal control of my project, known as Impro-Visor.

Re: [LAD] At the hands of Professor Keller and Raymond

2009-07-27 Thread Grammostola Rosea
Ralf Mardorf wrote: My recommendation is, that Bob forge the project within the next 3 month, that he will be the head of the project, but coders from the community get access to the source directories, after they have shown by some patches, that they are able to program, or what ever the

Re: [LAD] At the hands of Professor Keller and Raymond

2009-07-27 Thread Ralf Mardorf
lase...@gmail.com wrote: On Monday 27 July 2009 12:16:17 you wrote: Hi Raymond :) hi list :) My recommendation is, that Bob forge the project within the next 3 month, that he will be the head of the project, but coders from the community get access to the source directories, after they

Re: [LAD] At the hands of Professor Keller and Raymond

2009-07-27 Thread Jörn Nettingsmeier
hi bob! welcome to the linux audio developers' community, thanks for joining this list. i'm sorry that you are joining for rather unfortunate reasons, but licensing issues are always controversial and have a way of attracting hot-heads... so please don't be offended. i'll try to refrain from

Re: [LAD] At the hands of Professor Keller and Raymond

2009-07-27 Thread laseray
On Monday 27 July 2009 14:33:30 Jörn Nettingsmeier wrote: hi bob! which means that raymond has a point. and he is also entitled to forking your project any way he sees fit. so much for the legal part. as to communication skills, raymond, i think you should go get a nice cup of coffee, tone

Re: [LAD] At the hands of Professor Keller and Raymond

2009-07-27 Thread Jörn Nettingsmeier
lase...@gmail.com wrote: On Monday 27 July 2009 14:33:30 Jörn Nettingsmeier wrote: as to communication skills, raymond, i think you should go get a nice cup of coffee, tone down a bit, see what happens. this bears all the hallmarks of a excuse my french pissing contest, which might be

Re: [LAD] At the hands of Professor Keller and Raymond

2009-07-27 Thread Chris Cannam
2009/7/27 Jörn Nettingsmeier netti...@folkwang-hochschule.de: which means that raymond has a point. and he is also entitled to forking your project any way he sees fit. It isn't necessarily the case that he is entitled to fork it. Raymond has repeatedly said that it was distributed to him

Re: [LAD] At the hands of Professor Keller and Raymond

2009-07-27 Thread laseray
On Monday 27 July 2009 16:02:47 Chris Cannam wrote: 2009/7/27 Jörn Nettingsmeier netti...@folkwang-hochschule.de: which means that raymond has a point. and he is also entitled to forking your project any way he sees fit. It isn't necessarily the case that he is entitled to fork it. Raymond

[LAD] At the hands of Professor Keller and Raymond

2009-07-26 Thread Ralf Mardorf
Dear Mr. Keller, you gave your average interesting project a bad note by keeping the source code closed. Why not open the source? Cross-fertilisation can make it much more interesting, everybody could benefit from it and you'll get deserved fame, even if it's shared fame. Just my 2 Cents. I'm