If one were to build a "kernel" to a digital audio workstation that was
itself a bare-bones LV2 host, could things like audio tracks, midi
tracks, and mixer channels and the like be built as LV2 plug-ins?
I've been thinking a lot about a comment made a while back about how
monolithic applications
On Sat, Feb 21, 2009 at 2:37 PM, Darren Landrum <
darren.land...@sbcglobal.net> wrote:
> If one were to build a "kernel" to a digital audio workstation that was
> itself a bare-bones LV2 host, could things like audio tracks, midi
> tracks, and mixer channels and the like be built as LV2 plug-ins?
On Sat, Feb 21, 2009 at 02:37:24PM -0500, Darren Landrum wrote:
> If one were to build a "kernel" to a digital audio workstation that was
> itself a bare-bones LV2 host, could things like audio tracks, midi
> tracks, and mixer channels and the like be built as LV2 plug-ins?
Sure. They output/read
Adrian Knoth wrote:
> A last remark: what you call a "kernel" could be ardour or qtractor one
> day. There's no use and no need in getting rid of the real OS, let the
> Linux kernel do the hardware handling for you, implement your LV2 host
> and do everything else in a LV2 plugin.
I was never sugg
On Sat, 2009-02-21 at 14:55 -0500, Paul Davis wrote:
> On Sat, Feb 21, 2009 at 2:37 PM, Darren Landrum
> wrote:
> If one were to build a "kernel" to a digital audio workstation
> that was
> itself a bare-bones LV2 host, could things like audio tracks,
> midi
>
On Sat, 2009-02-21 at 14:37 -0500, Darren Landrum wrote:
> If one were to build a "kernel" to a digital audio workstation that was
> itself a bare-bones LV2 host, could things like audio tracks, midi
> tracks, and mixer channels and the like be built as LV2 plug-ins?
>
> I've been thinking a lot a
Ingen works well on my setup, but the idea of adding midi and audio tracks
as 'plugins' sounds rather appealing. (Would be cool to simply add tracks,
and have them autoorganise into a neat arrangement in the GUI. Starting from
the top down?)
Given the multi layer framework of Ingen, i would think t
On Mon, 2009-02-23 at 01:00 +0200, alex stone wrote:
> Ingen works well on my setup, but the idea of adding midi and audio
> tracks as 'plugins' sounds rather appealing. (Would be cool to simply
> add tracks, and have them autoorganise into a neat arrangement in the
> GUI. Starting from the top dow
Do plugins have any more sense of time than your average herd of cows?
In goes sunlight and green grass, and out comes a healthy amount of milk
and fresh manure ..
The only kinds of "plugins" that has a sense of time in our world are
those who are recording either audio or midi, and these are thos
Just to be pedantic for a moment, every audio plugin needs to be
intimately familiar with time, because sound is a time bound
phenomena, you almost always need to have an incremental (even if
looped) index into an array somewhere, or some concept of a phase, and
also frequency usually plays a role
On Sun, 2009-02-22 at 18:51 -0800, Justin Smith wrote:
> Actually almost everything an audio plugin does is time dependent.
But not to the wall clock!
/j
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So there is our answer: one extra input on every "timeline" dependent
plugin, telling it the logical transport time/state. That plus a gui
with pretty pictures of waveforms or midi notes or automation lines
gives us what we have been talking about, right? Or am I missing
something?
On Sun, Feb 22,
Yes you are missing that, either we would have an intelligent host
commanding an unruly herd of time time-tracks, or we would just have a
single master pretty much in terms with its own inconsistencies.
In a fight between a single 24 track Studer and an array of synchronized
Nagra's, I know what c
What is a Studer, and what is a Nagra?
On Sun, Feb 22, 2009 at 7:13 PM, Jens M Andreasen
wrote:
> Yes you are missing that, either we would have an intelligent host
> commanding an unruly herd of time time-tracks, or we would just have a
> single master pretty much in terms with its own inconsist
On Sun, 2009-02-22 at 19:17 -0800, Justin Smith wrote:
> What is a Studer, and what is a Nagra?
They are both famous Swiss made tape-recorders. The Nagra was used in
the field by pretty much every radio station and in film synchronized
with camera (using real film, not video.) using EBU/SMPTE. It
On Mon, 2009-02-23 at 03:40 +0100, Jens M Andreasen wrote:
> The only kinds of "plugins" that has a sense of time in our world are
> those who are recording either audio or midi, and these are those we
> would normally prefer to define as our toplevel hosts.
Um... no.
-dr
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On Sun, 2009-02-22 at 23:49 -0500, David Robillard wrote:
> Um... no.
Ehh ...
I see time relative to the wall clock. What time is yours?
/j
>
> -dr
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On Mon, 2009-02-23 at 05:58 +0100, Jens M Andreasen wrote:
> On Sun, 2009-02-22 at 23:49 -0500, David Robillard wrote:
> > Um... no.
>
> Ehh ...
>
>
> I see time relative to the wall clock. What time is yours?
That there are several possible timebases (all of which, by the way, are
relevant in
Dave, just askin'. :)
Alex
On Mon, Feb 23, 2009 at 7:56 AM, David Robillard wrote:
> On Mon, 2009-02-23 at 05:58 +0100, Jens M Andreasen wrote:
> > On Sun, 2009-02-22 at 23:49 -0500, David Robillard wrote:
> > > Um... no.
> >
> > Ehh ...
> >
> >
> > I see time relative to the wall clock. What t
On Mon, Feb 23, 2009 at 04:40:58AM +0100, Jens M Andreasen wrote:
> On Sun, 2009-02-22 at 19:17 -0800, Justin Smith wrote:
> > What is a Studer, and what is a Nagra?
>
> They are both famous Swiss made tape-recorders. The Nagra was used in
> the field by pretty much every radio station and in fil
On Mon, 2009-02-23 at 10:33 +0100, Fons Adriaensen wrote:
> Still feel them on my shoulder... In fact the weighty part
> was not so much the Nagra itself, but the batteries.
>
It could have been worse as you can see in this post from:
http://www.tomshardware.co.uk/forum/page-47189_32_0.html
:)
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