Hi :)
I have this problem too: http://ardour.org/node/2271
If I go back to the Suse 11.0 version before 0.116, it's 0.109, the
message changes from "jackd: symbol lookup error: jackd: undefined
symbol: clock_source" to "jackd: symbol lookup error: jackd: undefined
symbol: _jack_get_microseconds".
On Sun, Dec 14, 2008 at 08:29:57PM +0100, Ralf Mardorf wrote:
> Hi :)
>
>
> I removed the jack package by YaST2 and then ...
> suse11:/usr/lib # rm libjack*
> suse11:/usr/lib64 # rm libjack*
>
> After I installed jack again, I got "jackd: error while loading shared
> libraries: libjackserver.so.
Hi Oc2pus :)
here is the information I got by rpm, I also checked jack only and
dependencies by YaST2 and added the stuff that's unknown by the package
management and including jack in it's name.
oc2...@arcor.de wrote:
> please post the output of
> rpm -qa | grep jack
>
suse11:/home/spymo #
Am Montag, 15. Dezember 2008 schrieb Ralf Mardorf:
> Hi Oc2pus :)
>
> here is the information I got by rpm, I also checked jack only and
> dependencies by YaST2 and added the stuff that's unknown by the package
> management and including jack in it's name.
>
> oc2...@arcor.de wrote:
> > please post
oc2...@arcor.de wrote:
> Am Montag, 15. Dezember 2008 schrieb Ralf Mardorf:
>
>> Hi Oc2pus :)
>>
>> here is the information I got by rpm, I also checked jack only and
>> dependencies by YaST2 and added the stuff that's unknown by the package
>> management and including jack in it's name.
>>
>> o
Oc2pus, I don't will write any thing more about this issue, you are free
to write books about it, but I won't reply to stuff that has nothing to
do with my request, if it's in that German forum style.
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On Tuesday 16 December 2008 02:21:03 Ralf Mardorf wrote:
> Oc2pus, I don't will write any thing more about this issue, you are free
> to write books about it, but I won't reply to stuff that has nothing to
> do with my request, if it's in that German forum style.
Apart from the fact that your othe
Arnold Krille wrote:
> You do have two different versions installed. This _is_ a messed up system.
> Why don't you try
> to clean that up
I need to find out how to do this. After I upgraded my Suse 11.0 from
jackd 0.109 to jackd 0.116 by using YaST2, it was broken. Maybe not the
way it's broken
On Tue, Dec 16, 2008 at 02:15:59AM +0100, Ralf Mardorf wrote:
> oc2...@arcor.de wrote:
> > Am Montag, 15. Dezember 2008 schrieb Ralf Mardorf:
> >
> >> Hi Oc2pus :)
> >>
> >> here is the information I got by rpm, I also checked jack only and
> >> dependencies by YaST2 and added the stuff that's u
torb...@gmx.de wrote:
> YOU broke your system.
>
By doing what? I did an upgrade from 0.109 to 0.116 by YaST, maybe it
wasn't the package, but it also wasn't me. I just clicked to upgrade it
from the repo-oss to the Packman version, from that point on it was
broken. I might have done wrong thin
Ralf Mardorf wrote:
>> just remove the offending packages.
>> read the man page of rpm and remove them.
>> i guess you need the force option
>>
>
> Okay, I'll resume:
>
> 1. RPM force option to remove the offending Packages
> 2. install from the source (or try Packman again or try Jussi's RPM
What I'm thinking of, isn't to erase any package, but I hope I used the
replace option not correct and that it will be possible to replace jack2
libs by jack libs, or if I like to get jack2 installed correctly, this
hopefully will also be fine, if I know how to use the replace options in
the right
Am Dienstag, 16. Dezember 2008 schrieb torb...@gmx.de:
> just remove the offending packages.
> read the man page of rpm and remove them.
> i guess you need the force option, because you got yourself into
> dependency hell.
>
> yast wont help you here.
you need rpm -e --nodeps perhaps additionally
On Tue, 2008-12-16 at 03:12 +0100, Ralf Mardorf wrote:
> . If I don't have knowledge I have to
> read and to ask, I just reported and asked, and get acidness.
no, thats not the issue. i think you don't understand that we (JACK)
developers see these issues reported day after day after day, not just
On Tue, Dec 16, 2008 at 12:31:22PM +0100, oc2...@arcor.de wrote:
> Am Dienstag, 16. Dezember 2008 schrieb Thomas Kuther:
>
> > @ oc2pus, jack in packman is broken, or YaST is. I set up a fresh
> > install in a virtual machine using 11.1RC1 and only added packman.
> >
> > Currently there is:
> > *
oc2...@arcor.de wrote:
> you need rpm -e --nodeps perhaps additionally the
> option --allmatches if packages are installed twice.
>
> than a package is removed and you have a temporary inconsitent system, but if
> you install immediately the other packages all will be fine
>
Thanx, I got thi
Paul Davis wrote:
> On Tue, 2008-12-16 at 03:12 +0100, Ralf Mardorf wrote:
>
>> . If I don't have knowledge I have to
>> read and to ask, I just reported and asked, and get acidness.
>>
>
> no, thats not the issue. i think you don't understand that we (JACK)
> developers see these issues re
Thomas Kuther wrote:
> On Di, 16.12.08 06:12 Ralf Mardorf wrote:
>
>
>> What I'm thinking of, isn't to erase any package, but I hope I used
>> the replace option not correct and that it will be possible to
>> replace jack2 libs by jack libs, or if I like to get jack2 installed
>> correctly, thi
oc2...@arcor.de wrote:
> nor the packman package or yast is broken...
>
> pulseaudio-module-jack has a (wrong ?) requires to jack instead libjack.so.1
> (or a other program in your system) . And as there are more than one provider
> for jack, yast pulls in the first provider for jack it finds.
>
On Tue, Dec 16, 2008 at 02:05:05PM +0100, torb...@gmx.de wrote:
>
> and this is only possible because, there are 2 packages, for libjack and
> jack. Why do you think we distibute them in one package ?
> They make no sense without each other.
>
> STOP SPLITTING JACK UP.
Sorry, this might have sou
On Tue, Dec 16, 2008 at 12:31:22PM +0100, oc2...@arcor.de wrote:
> Am Dienstag, 16. Dezember 2008 schrieb Thomas Kuther:
>
> > @ oc2pus, jack in packman is broken, or YaST is. I set up a fresh
> > install in a virtual machine using 11.1RC1 and only added packman.
> >
> > Currently there is:
> > *
Am Dienstag, 16. Dezember 2008 schrieb torb...@gmx.de:
> On Tue, Dec 16, 2008 at 12:31:22PM +0100, oc2...@arcor.de wrote:
> > Am Dienstag, 16. Dezember 2008 schrieb Thomas Kuther:
> > > @ oc2pus, jack in packman is broken, or YaST is. I set up a fresh
> > > install in a virtual machine using 11.1RC
Am Dienstag, 16. Dezember 2008 schrieb Thomas Kuther:
> @ oc2pus, jack in packman is broken, or YaST is. I set up a fresh
> install in a virtual machine using 11.1RC1 and only added packman.
>
> Currently there is:
> * pulseaudio-module-jack-0.9.12-8.5
> * libjack0-0.116.1-0.pm.1
>
> Now if I tick
On Di, 16.12.08 12:31 oc2...@arcor.de wrote:
> nor the packman package or yast is broken...
>
> pulseaudio-module-jack has a (wrong ?) requires to jack instead
> libjack.so.1 (or a other program in your system) . And as there are
> more than one provider for jack, yast pulls in the first provider
oc2...@arcor.de writes:
> and even jack2 is providing this scheme:
> http://trac.jackaudio.org/wiki/SuggestedPackagingApproach
I've changed the page and it now contains this paragraph:
All different releases of JACK should be considered internally
incompatible - that is, it should never be consi
Toni wrote:
> you need rpm -e --nodeps perhaps additionally the
> option --allmatches if packages are installed twice.
>
> than a package is removed and you have a temporary inconsitent system, but if
> you install immediately the other packages all will be fine :)
>
Thank you :)
as I have
On Di, 16.12.08 11:42 Thomas Kuther wrote:
> libjack0. zypper on the other side gets it right. See the screenshot!
> http://gimpel.ath.cx/~tom/jack_weirdness.png
>
Did I really write that zypper gets it right?
It would pull in jack2 even I tell it to install "jack", but at least
it wouldn't bre
oc2...@arcor.de wrote:
>> STOP SPLITTING JACK UP.
> This "fetaure" was not packman's idea ...
>
> see openSuSE-shared-library policy:
> http://en.opensuse.org/Shared_Library_Packaging_Policy
This is one of the "bright" ideas adopted from Debian-based systems, but
I'm not at all convinced that it
On Di, 16.12.08 06:12 Ralf Mardorf wrote:
> What I'm thinking of, isn't to erase any package, but I hope I used
> the replace option not correct and that it will be possible to
> replace jack2 libs by jack libs, or if I like to get jack2 installed
> correctly, this hopefully will also be fine, if
Am Dienstag, 16. Dezember 2008 schrieb torb...@gmx.de:
> On Tue, Dec 16, 2008 at 12:31:22PM +0100, oc2...@arcor.de wrote:
> > Am Dienstag, 16. Dezember 2008 schrieb Thomas Kuther:
> > > @ oc2pus, jack in packman is broken, or YaST is. I set up a fresh
> > > install in a virtual machine using 11.1RC
oc2...@arcor.de wrote:
> Am Dienstag, 16. Dezember 2008 schrieb torb...@gmx.de:
>
>> On Tue, Dec 16, 2008 at 12:31:22PM +0100, oc2...@arcor.de wrote:
>>
>>> Am Dienstag, 16. Dezember 2008 schrieb Thomas Kuther:
>>>
@ oc2pus, jack in packman is broken, or YaST is. I set up a fres
oc2pus IF YOU are making music by using the Packman repositories and
nobody, but me run into trouble with your package, why has anybody but
you problems? I guess you don't make music using your own packages!
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oc2...@arcor.de wrote:
> You grab
> sentences from Paul and others from here and put them in a very very special
> context to fit your argumentation against SuSE distribution and especially
> the packman repository.
> http://www.linux-club.de/viewtopic.php?f=18&t=99521&p=605724#p605724
> And wor
Am Dienstag, 16. Dezember 2008 schrieb Jussi Laako:
> oc2...@arcor.de wrote:
> >> STOP SPLITTING JACK UP.
> >
> > This "fetaure" was not packman's idea ...
> >
> > see openSuSE-shared-library policy:
> > http://en.opensuse.org/Shared_Library_Packaging_Policy
>
> This is one of the "bright" ideas ad
A last statement!
I started with 11.1 RC to avoid that Suse again will be bad for
pro-audio and in two days there again will be a new stable release
that's totally invalid. All because I get bashes at Linux Club. I boiled
over here, yes and I'm still boiling ...
Have you ever made music with you
Ralf Mardorf wrote:
> A last statement!
>
> I started with 11.1 RC to avoid that Suse again will be bad for
> pro-audio and in two days there again will be a new stable release
> that's totally invalid. All because I get bashes at Linux Club. I boiled
> over here, yes and I'm still boiling ...
>
>
On Di, 16.12.08 20:17 Ralf Mardorf wrote:
> I go away from Linux Club, because I don't want this flame war! Why
> must it go on here?
Good, because you will be banned inbetween the next minutes anyway
after your last mails here, and that post there.
A lot of people here and there tried to find
Thomas Kuther wrote:
> On Di, 16.12.08 20:17 Ralf Mardorf wrote:
>
>
>> I go away from Linux Club, because I don't want this flame war! Why
>> must it go on here?
>>
>
> Good, because you will be banned inbetween the next minutes anyway
> after your last mails here, and that post there.
>
> > hmm... ok. it looks like libjack0-0.109.2 is not requiring
> > jack-0.109.2.
> >
> > and jack-0.109.2 only requires libjack0.so
> > which can be provided by libjack2 and libjack1.
> >
> > i consider this broken.
>
> just for the records:
> these are not packman packages.
> the packman package
oc2...@arcor.de wrote:
> Ok, I uploaded new packages for jack and jack2.
> They are now mutually exclusive and the user must change wich one to use.
> Formerly jack2 was handled as a update to jack.
>
> The "Requires" to the underlying library packages where already part of the
> packman package
torb...@gmx.de wrote:
> so lets drink some "virtual" beer together, and let this stuff
> rest. And Ralf, i hope that, you see that apart from pointing out
> the problem you did not help in solving this problem.
>
I'll drink some alcohol free real beer and maybe one with alcohol too.
A lot of p
torb...@gmx.de wrote:
> And Ralf, i hope that, you see that apart from pointing out
> the problem you did not help in solving this problem.
>
And I even wasn't the one who pointed out the problem, there were people
doing it before me, but nobody take care about them, because they didn't
boiled
Am Dienstag, 16. Dezember 2008 schrieb torb...@gmx.de:
> nedko also updated:
> http://trac.jackaudio.org/wiki/SuggestedPackagingApproach
>
> to make the fact more clear, that there MUST NOT be two versions,
> of libjack.so on the system.
>
> perhaps you can communicate this fact upstream to suse.
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