Re: [LAD] alsa card order

2009-05-04 Thread Fernando Lopez-Lezcano
On Wed, 2009-04-29 at 17:55 +0200, Fons Adriaensen wrote: On Wed, Apr 29, 2009 at 07:45:31AM -0400, Paul Davis wrote: On Wed, Apr 29, 2009 at 5:09 AM, Fons Adriaensen f...@kokkinizita.net wrote: How do you start jackd on an alsa hw device without knowing the index (in a

Re: [LAD] alsa card order

2009-05-04 Thread Fernando Lopez-Lezcano
On Wed, 2009-04-29 at 22:05 -0400, Lee Revell wrote: On Tue, Apr 28, 2009 at 7:34 PM, Lennart Poettering mz...@0pointer.de wrote: Doing these things with indexes is just broken. It's like network interfaces. Everybody learned to use names for them instead of the low-level ifindex. Now it's

Re: [LAD] alsa card order

2009-04-29 Thread Clemens Ladisch
Fons Adriaensen wrote: options snd cards_limit=4 alias snd-card-0 snd_intel8x0 alias snd-card-1 snd_mpu401 alias snd-card-2 snd_ice1712 options snd-card-0 index=0 options snd-card-1 index=1 options snd-card-2 index=2 but the order of the devices is always the inverse: ice1712, mpu401,

Re: [LAD] alsa card order

2009-04-29 Thread Florian Faber
Lennart, Doing these things with indexes is just broken. It's like network interfaces. Everybody learned to use names for them instead of the low-level ifindex. Now it's time people learn the same for audio devices. NICs have a MAC to identify them. I'm adding the card's serial number to the

Re: [LAD] alsa card order

2009-04-29 Thread Fons Adriaensen
On Wed, Apr 29, 2009 at 01:34:52AM +0200, Lennart Poettering wrote: Doing these things with indexes is just broken. It's like network interfaces. Everybody learned to use names for them instead of the low-level ifindex. Now it's time people learn the same for audio devices. Indices reflect

Re: [LAD] alsa card order

2009-04-29 Thread Fons Adriaensen
On Wed, Apr 29, 2009 at 09:02:35AM +0200, Clemens Ladisch wrote: Fons Adriaensen wrote: options snd cards_limit=4 alias snd-card-0 snd_intel8x0 alias snd-card-1 snd_mpu401 alias snd-card-2 snd_ice1712 options snd-card-0 index=0 options snd-card-1 index=1 options snd-card-2 index=2

Re: [LAD] alsa card order

2009-04-29 Thread Simon Fielding
On Tue, 2009-04-28 at 21:22 -0400, drew Roberts wrote: The naming system exists for a reason, i.e. to allow you to easily identify devices without remembering any cryptic numbers. It also allows you to change the name during runtime via sysfs in case you want to fix them up. 1. I

Re: [LAD] alsa card order

2009-04-29 Thread Paul Davis
On Wed, Apr 29, 2009 at 5:09 AM, Fons Adriaensen f...@kokkinizita.net wrote: How do you start jackd on an alsa hw device without knowing the index (in a non-interactive way, e.g. from a script) ? jack ... -d alsa -d AnyALSA:deviceName,WillDo there's no requirement to use hw:N

Re: [LAD] alsa card order

2009-04-29 Thread Patrick Shirkey
Hi Someone glossed over this previously today but why is it that a usb device receives default status over an internal device? Can't ALSA set the default card to be an internal device *by default* and only give a usb device that status if requested? Why are people expected to set this in

Re: [LAD] alsa card order

2009-04-29 Thread James Warden
with this for ages, I simply cannot remember. J. --- On Wed, 4/29/09, Paul Davis p...@linuxaudiosystems.com wrote: From: Paul Davis p...@linuxaudiosystems.com Subject: Re: [LAD] alsa card order To: Fons Adriaensen f...@kokkinizita.net Cc: linux-audio-dev@lists.linuxaudio.org Date: Wednesday, April

Re: [LAD] alsa card order

2009-04-29 Thread hollunder
On Wed, 29 Apr 2009 05:22:06 -0700 (PDT) James Warden warj...@yahoo.com wrote: it could be that many ppl are using qjactcl and the latter may not be as flexible as the command line. I am not in front of my DAW so it is just speculations. Rui could comment on qjackctl's ability to select an

Re: [LAD] alsa card order

2009-04-29 Thread Takashi Iwai
At Wed, 29 Apr 2009 11:14:52 +0200, Fons Adriaensen wrote: On Wed, Apr 29, 2009 at 09:02:35AM +0200, Clemens Ladisch wrote: Fons Adriaensen wrote: options snd cards_limit=4 alias snd-card-0 snd_intel8x0 alias snd-card-1 snd_mpu401 alias snd-card-2 snd_ice1712 options

Re: [LAD] alsa card order

2009-04-29 Thread Simon Fielding
On Wed, 2009-04-29 at 09:01 -0400, drew Roberts wrote: On Wednesday 29 April 2009 07:45:08 Simon Fielding wrote: On Tue, 2009-04-28 at 21:22 -0400, drew Roberts wrote: The naming system exists for a reason, i.e. to allow you to easily identify devices without remembering any cryptic

Re: [LAD] alsa card order

2009-04-29 Thread Rui Nuno Capela
On Wed, April 29, 2009 13:22, James Warden wrote: it could be that many ppl are using qjactcl and the latter may not be as flexible as the command line. I am not in front of my DAW so it is just speculations. Rui could comment on qjackctl's ability to select an ALSA device by name instead of

Re: [LAD] alsa card order

2009-04-29 Thread Fons Adriaensen
On Wed, Apr 29, 2009 at 07:45:31AM -0400, Paul Davis wrote: On Wed, Apr 29, 2009 at 5:09 AM, Fons Adriaensen f...@kokkinizita.net wrote: How do you start jackd on an alsa hw device without knowing the index (in a non-interactive way, e.g. from a script) ? jack ... -d alsa -d

Re: [LAD] alsa card order

2009-04-29 Thread Lee Revell
On Tue, Apr 28, 2009 at 7:34 PM, Lennart Poettering mz...@0pointer.de wrote: Doing these things with indexes is just broken. It's like network interfaces. Everybody learned to use names for them instead of the low-level ifindex. Now it's time people learn the same for audio devices. So how

[LAD] alsa card order

2009-04-28 Thread Fons Adriaensen
Hello all, I'm Running F10 and I have these lines in /etc/modprobe.conf: options snd cards_limit=4 alias snd-card-0 snd_intel8x0 alias snd-card-1 snd_mpu401 alias snd-card-2 snd_ice1712 options snd-card-0 index=0 options snd-card-1 index=1 options snd-card-2 index=2 but the order of the devices

Re: [LAD] alsa card order

2009-04-28 Thread Lennart Poettering
On Tue, 28.04.09 23:36, Fons Adriaensen (f...@kokkinizita.net) wrote: Hello all, I'm Running F10 and I have these lines in /etc/modprobe.conf: options snd cards_limit=4 alias snd-card-0 snd_intel8x0 alias snd-card-1 snd_mpu401 alias snd-card-2 snd_ice1712 options snd-card-0 index=0

Re: [LAD] alsa card order

2009-04-28 Thread Fons Adriaensen
On Tue, Apr 28, 2009 at 11:59:36PM +0200, Lennart Poettering wrote: On Tue, 28.04.09 23:36, Fons Adriaensen (f...@kokkinizita.net) wrote: Hello all, I'm Running F10 and I have these lines in /etc/modprobe.conf: options snd cards_limit=4 alias snd-card-0 snd_intel8x0 alias

Re: [LAD] alsa card order

2009-04-28 Thread Lennart Poettering
On Wed, 29.04.09 00:18, Fons Adriaensen (f...@kokkinizita.net) wrote: On Tue, Apr 28, 2009 at 11:59:36PM +0200, Lennart Poettering wrote: On Tue, 28.04.09 23:36, Fons Adriaensen (f...@kokkinizita.net) wrote: Hello all, I'm Running F10 and I have these lines in

Re: [LAD] alsa card order

2009-04-28 Thread drew Roberts
On Tuesday 28 April 2009 17:59:36 Lennart Poettering wrote: On Tue, 28.04.09 23:36, Fons Adriaensen (f...@kokkinizita.net) wrote: Hello all, I'm Running F10 and I have these lines in /etc/modprobe.conf: options snd cards_limit=4 alias snd-card-0 snd_intel8x0 alias snd-card-1

Re: [LAD] alsa card order

2009-04-28 Thread drew Roberts
On Tuesday 28 April 2009 19:34:52 Lennart Poettering wrote: On Wed, 29.04.09 00:18, Fons Adriaensen (f...@kokkinizita.net) wrote: On Tue, Apr 28, 2009 at 11:59:36PM +0200, Lennart Poettering wrote: On Tue, 28.04.09 23:36, Fons Adriaensen (f...@kokkinizita.net) wrote: Hello all,