On Fri, 2013-09-20 at 21:28 +, Fons Adriaensen wrote:
Maybe the free software community fails to understand that, in which
case I feel completely justified not to contribute to it.
That's a good idea. Reading your comments I would welcome that, because
than all the trouble would stop, for
Am 21.09.2013 08:00, schrieb Ralf Mardorf:
On Fri, 2013-09-20 at 21:28 +, Fons Adriaensen wrote:
Maybe the free software community fails to understand that, in which
case I feel completely justified not to contribute to it.
That's a good idea. Reading your comments I would welcome that,
Thank you Hermann that I should shut up ;) while I'm right regarding to
the link you posted:
On Sat, 2013-09-21 at 08:10 +0200, hermann meyer wrote:
Ralf, please stop this. You seems to have no Idea about what the blame
is here. Read here,
Why, When, and How to Fork an Open Source Project
Am 21.09.2013 08:10 schrieb hermann meyer brumm...@web.de:
Ralf, please stop this. You seems to have no Idea about what the blame is
here. Read here,
Why, When, and How to Fork an Open Source Project
The crux of his reply is I was convinced (apparently wrongly) that
Aeolus was more or less an abandoned project, the last contribution to
either the sources I could reach or the involved web sites I could
track dated from several years ago (the latest copyright notice is 5
years old). It was not
Am 21.09.2013 08:39, schrieb Ralf Mardorf:
Thank you Hermann that I should shut up ;) while I'm right regarding to
the link you posted:
On Sat, 2013-09-21 at 08:10 +0200, hermann meyer wrote:
Ralf, please stop this. You seems to have no Idea about what the blame
is here. Read here,
Why, When,
Am 21.09.2013 08:59 schrieb hermann meyer brumm...@web.de:
There is a big difference in a initial push, or a push on the fork
button. If you push the fork button, the original maintainer can note that
you have fork it, and could handle it as pull request. If you do a initial
push, the original
On Sat, Sep 21, 2013 at 07:52:02AM +0200, Ralf Mardorf wrote:
It's completely impossible to be on Fons site. When Fons has such a
super-mind, why did he chose the GPL? Those simple-minded guy who forked
Aeolus might have made a little mistake, but doesn't offend the licence.
Ralf, please stop
On Sat, 2013-09-21 at 08:52 +, John Rigg wrote:
On Sat, Sep 21, 2013 at 07:52:02AM +0200, Ralf Mardorf wrote:
It's completely impossible to be on Fons site. When Fons has such a
super-mind, why did he chose the GPL? Those simple-minded guy who forked
Aeolus might have made a little
Am 21.09.2013 11:52, schrieb Ralf Mardorf:
On Sat, 2013-09-21 at 08:52 +, John Rigg wrote:
On Sat, Sep 21, 2013 at 07:52:02AM +0200, Ralf Mardorf wrote:
It's completely impossible to be on Fons site. When Fons has such a
super-mind, why did he chose the GPL? Those simple-minded guy who
On Sat, Sep 21, 2013 at 11:52:05AM +0200, Ralf Mardorf wrote:
He made a mistake? Ok! And now? Making it a drama while it might be easy
to solve, by just talking to him? He might think he didn't made a
mistake, so he perhaps won't contact somebody, but he perhaps will reply
if Fons or you send
On Thu, Sep 19, 2013 at 09:05:19PM +, Fons Adriaensen wrote:
And that is entirely intentional. What do you expect ? Try
and go to your whatever - baker, sports team, bar keeper...
and tell them you can instantly improve what they do. Maybe
they'll listen. But chances are 99.9% that they
On 09/20/13 01:38, Paul Davis wrote:
it is also much easier for project maintainers to handle pull requests than
simple patches, which means that someone having their own fork on github
can actually be doing the project a service, rather than seeking to split
from it.
i'm aware of that
There's also the fact that you can't attach patches to github issues.
On 9/20/13, IOhannes m zmölnig zmoel...@iem.at wrote:
On 09/20/13 01:38, Paul Davis wrote:
it is also much easier for project maintainers to handle pull requests
than
simple patches, which means that someone having their
On Fri, Sep 20, 2013 at 1:25 PM, Dan Muresan danm...@gmail.com wrote:
There's also the fact that you can't attach patches to github issues.
https://gist.github.com/ can be used for this: see
https://github.com/ned14/Easyshop/issues/1
-Harry
PS: Apologies for the blank mail
On Fri, Sep 20, 2013 at 09:04:30AM -0700, J. Liles wrote:
I'm sure Fons thinks Aeolus is perfect because it meets his own needs
On the contrary. I think it is very imperfect. It is, as everything,
a compromise.
Ciao,
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It's
On Fri, 2013-09-20 at 09:30 -0700, J. Liles wrote:
Aside from adding copyright lines to files that weren't actually
changed, what was done here that is in any way offensive?
And aside from the name, that IMO could be considered as to close to the
original name. I guess that this aren't issues,
On Fri, Sep 20, 2013 at 2:40 AM, Gordon JC Pearce gordon...@gjcp.netwrote:
On Thu, Sep 19, 2013 at 09:05:19PM +, Fons Adriaensen wrote:
And that is entirely intentional. What do you expect ? Try
and go to your whatever - baker, sports team, bar keeper...
and tell them you can
On Fri, Sep 20, 2013 at 9:18 AM, Fons Adriaensen f...@linuxaudio.orgwrote:
On Fri, Sep 20, 2013 at 09:04:30AM -0700, J. Liles wrote:
I'm sure Fons thinks Aeolus is perfect because it meets his own needs
On the contrary. I think it is very imperfect. It is, as everything,
a compromise.
On Fri, Sep 20, 2013 at 09:52:06PM +0200, Felix Homann wrote:
Would you mind Maurizio Gavioli to play around with your code in private?
No.
don't think so. So why do you mind him sharing his 'playground'?
Why do you think I should feel the same about both ?
Ciao,
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A world of
First, let me state that IMO the whole issue seems to me mostly like a
misunderstanding about what a 'fork' is. In the pre-github ages a fork was
more or less a way to express ones dissent, see emacs/xemacs, x.org/xfree86,
OpenOffice.org/Libreoffice. You can definitely feel bad about being forked
On Fri, Sep 20, 2013 at 1:24 PM, Fons Adriaensen f...@linuxaudio.orgwrote:
'Convenient' is the key word here. Some people only think
of what's 'convenient' to them, everything else is too much
for their simple minds.
Fons, you have to admit that with comments like that, you're making it
On Fri, Sep 20, 2013 at 2:28 PM, Fons Adriaensen f...@linuxaudio.orgwrote:
On Fri, Sep 20, 2013 at 01:50:41PM -0700, J. Liles wrote:
On Fri, Sep 20, 2013 at 1:24 PM, Fons Adriaensen f...@linuxaudio.org
wrote:
'Convenient' is the key word here. Some people only think
of what's
On Fri, Sep 20, 2013 at 03:00:25PM -0700, J. Liles wrote:
You still have your pristine and perfect orginal version intact.
That is true. And if that were the only thing I cared about,
I wouldn't release anything at all.
Ciao,
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A world of exhaustive, reliable metadata would be an
On Fri, Sep 20, 2013 at 01:50:41PM -0700, J. Liles wrote:
On Fri, Sep 20, 2013 at 1:24 PM, Fons Adriaensen f...@linuxaudio.orgwrote:
'Convenient' is the key word here. Some people only think
of what's 'convenient' to them, everything else is too much
for their simple minds.
Fons,
Am 20.09.2013 21:56 schrieb Fons Adriaensen f...@linuxaudio.org:
On Fri, Sep 20, 2013 at 09:52:06PM +0200, Felix Homann wrote:
Would you mind Maurizio Gavioli to play around with your code in
private?
No.
don't think so. So why do you mind him sharing his 'playground'?
Why do you think
On Fri, Sep 20, 2013 at 09:30:12AM -0700, J. Liles wrote:
On Fri, Sep 20, 2013 at 9:18 AM, Fons Adriaensen f...@linuxaudio.orgwrote:
On Fri, Sep 20, 2013 at 09:04:30AM -0700, J. Liles wrote:
I'm sure Fons thinks Aeolus is perfect because it meets his own needs
On the contrary. I
On Fri, Sep 20, 2013 at 10:04:57PM +0200, Felix Homann wrote:
Am 20.09.2013 21:56 schrieb Fons Adriaensen f...@linuxaudio.org:
On Fri, Sep 20, 2013 at 09:52:06PM +0200, Felix Homann wrote:
Would you mind Maurizio Gavioli to play around with your code in
private?
No.
don't
Am 20.09.2013 22:24 schrieb Fons Adriaensen f...@linuxaudio.org:
Because of the things I have written and you didn't comment on :-)
You mean this:
Actually I was thinking more on the part about what a fork is. That seems
to be the crux of the biscuit.
Am 20.09.2013 23:28 schrieb Fons Adriaensen f...@linuxaudio.org:
Any changes that violate that principle, no matter how convenient
to the average user, destroy that quality and consequently harm my
interests as an author.
Perfectly understandable. Just don't accept any patches that violate
Here is a statement of Maurizio M. Gavioli:
https://github.com/mgavioli/oscAeolus/issues/1
My impression is that he didn't do something bad, that he has got no
evil intention and that he is pleasant-natured, IOW what he seems to be
a win for the community.
However, I didn't read the mails from
On Fri, 2013-09-20 at 13:50 -0700, J. Liles wrote:
On Fri, Sep 20, 2013 at 1:24 PM, Fons Adriaensen f...@linuxaudio.org
wrote:
'Convenient' is the key word here. Some people only think
of what's 'convenient' to them, everything else is too
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On 2013-09-18 23:54, geoff wrote:
Fons mentions the second fork seems to be changing the license.
hold your horses.
Fons said:
Gavioli has even added his 'copyright' to the sources of the
libraries that Aeolus depends on but which are not part of
On Thu, Sep 19, 2013 at 05:35:45PM +0200, IOhannes m zmoelnig wrote:
i compared that to the aeolus source-code as shipped in debian (as i
was too lazy to go to Fons' homepage) and find that the two files are
virtually identical, apart from a rename (.cc - .cpp), a different
indentation style
On Thu, 19 Sep 2013 17:35:45 +0200, IOhannes m zmoelnig wrote
Fons said:
Gavioli has even added his 'copyright' to the sources of the
libraries that Aeolus depends on but which are not part of its
source distribution
now what does this mean?
i would read adding his copyright as adding a
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On 2013-09-19 17:45, Fons Adriaensen wrote:
On Thu, Sep 19, 2013 at 05:35:45PM +0200, IOhannes m zmoelnig
wrote:
i compared that to the aeolus source-code as shipped in debian
(as i was too lazy to go to Fons' homepage) and find that the two
On Thu, 19 Sep 2013 17:35:45 +0200
IOhannes m zmoelnig zmoel...@iem.at wrote:
(it became weirder in github times, as i now can see how many people
(not really many) people create a public fork without *ever* doing
anything to it...what is that about?)
Just a quick response.
The fork on github
On 09/19/13 17:57, IOhannes m zmoelnig wrote:
if FLOSS is *only* about making perfect software by improving giants,
it becomes a little bit too neo-liberal for my taste.
in any case, FLOSS for me is also about a lot about learning.
i know only a single effective way to learn to code, and
On Thu, Sep 19, 2013 at 06:01:42PM +0200, R. Mattes wrote:
Yes, and why shouldn't it? I read it as a marker to show which
files have been changed.
There is world of difference (also legally) between
Copyright (c) xx'
and
Additional code/modifications by x
Well, I would take
On Thu, Sep 19, 2013 at 2:05 PM, Fons Adriaensen f...@linuxaudio.org wrote:
There is world of difference (also legally) between
Copyright (c) xx'
and
Additional code/modifications by x
On Sep 19, 2013, at 17:22 03, J. Liles wrote:
Fons, I've been around the
On Thu, Sep 19, 2013 at 2:05 PM, Fons Adriaensen f...@linuxaudio.orgwrote:
On Thu, Sep 19, 2013 at 06:01:42PM +0200, R. Mattes wrote:
Yes, and why shouldn't it? I read it as a marker to show which
files have been changed.
There is world of difference (also legally) between
Copyright
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On Thu, 19 Sep 2013 17:35:45 +0200 IOhannes m zmoelnig
zmoel...@iem.at wrote:
(it became weirder in github times, as i now can see how many people
(not really many) people create a public fork without *ever* doing
anything to it...what is that
On Thu, Sep 19, 2013 at 7:12 PM, Arnold Krille arn...@arnoldarts.de wrote:
(it became weirder in github times, as i now can see how many people
(not really many) people create a public fork without *ever* doing
anything to it...what is that about?)
Creating a fork and not doing anything:
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