Re: [linux-audio-dev] Lots about latency and disk i/o and JACK...

2001-10-02 Thread Paul Davis
>After having read many of the threads going on here, it seems that a lot >of the problems we're facing with i/o latency and cached writes and the >like deal with the way the kernel handles the filesystem, and trying to >code around that might not be the best way in a free OS such as ours. we're

[linux-audio-dev] Lots about latency and disk i/o and JACK...

2001-10-02 Thread Brent A. Busby
I admit I'm certainly a newcomer to this list, and this is my first post, but I was wondering... After having read many of the threads going on here, it seems that a lot of the problems we're facing with i/o latency and cached writes and the like deal with the way the kernel handles the filesyste

Re: [linux-audio-dev] LADMEA revisited (was: LAAGA and supporting programs)

2001-10-02 Thread Paul Davis
>Yep, but SHM isn't the only answer. Sockets provide a particularly useful >implementation. Sockets still force a data copy and they are bandwidth limited as well AFAIK. They also don't offer RT characteristics. Try to write a lot of data to a socket, and the kernel will do a bunch of non-determ

Re: [linux-audio-dev] Rant about bad documentation.

2001-10-02 Thread Paul Winkler
On Tue, Oct 02, 2001 at 10:55:02AM -0500, Kevin Conder wrote: > I saw this note on the Csound mailing list and thought I'd forward > it here. I agree with the point that poorly documented programs are harder > to use. Yes. But note that this rant is aimed at a program (actually a python pac

RE: [linux-audio-dev] LADMEA revisited (was: LAAGA and supporting programs)

2001-10-02 Thread Richard W.E. Furse
Oops, you're right of course - brain must have shut down. Hopefully issues are addressed to an extent in other emails. If all else fails, the numbered points in the recent big posting are a good start point for debate, as is the API (if it makes sense to folk). What I find interesting is that so

Re: [linux-audio-dev] books on c

2001-10-02 Thread Erik de Castro Lopo
On Tue, 2 Oct 2001 08:22:01 -0500 (CDT) dave willis <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > i don't know much about c, and am wondering if anyone has recommendations > on books for learning c for unix/linux, as well as for audio. Well for a rank beginner with C, you might like to try a book I co-authored

RE: [linux-audio-dev] LADMEA revisited (was: LAAGA and supportingprograms)

2001-10-02 Thread Karl MacMillan
On Tue, 2 Oct 2001, Richard W.E. Furse wrote: > > -Original Message- > [...] > > It is certainly true that there is only one type of "exchange" currently > > written for JACK, and that is for low-latency PCM. This does not mean that > > the API is not suitable for other types of connectio

Re: [linux-audio-dev] NAMING and related [OT?]

2001-10-02 Thread Kardamone
> On Mon, 1 Oct 2001, Paul Davis wrote: > > > > 1. Package early and often. > > Unless you don't feel your codebase is ready for users that don't know > > their way around gdb and a C++ compiler. > > The original thread was about how to make Linux audio applications > more accessible to non-progra

RE: [linux-audio-dev] LADMEA revisited (was: LAAGA and supporting programs)

2001-10-02 Thread Richard W.E. Furse
> -Original Message- > From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of Paul Davis > Sent: 30 September 2001 19:02 > To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > Subject: Re: [linux-audio-dev] LADMEA revisited (was: LAAGA and > supporting programs) > > > First of all, I'd like to thank Richard

RE: [linux-audio-dev] LADMEA revisited (was: LAAGA and supporting programs)

2001-10-02 Thread Richard W.E. Furse
> -Original Message- > From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of Paul Davis > Sent: 01 October 2001 17:32 > To: Richard Guenther > Cc: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > Subject: Re: [linux-audio-dev] LADMEA revisited (was: LAAGA and > supporting programs) [...] > However, as I poi

RE: [linux-audio-dev] LAAGA or JACK or...(was: LADMEA revisited...)

2001-10-02 Thread Richard W.E. Furse
> 4) "Think you know pro-audio on Linux? You don't know JACK!" is just > too good to pass up, even for people like myself for don't watch > TV in the USA :) Tempting fate: there's also "Windows has Rewire, Linux has Jack." ;-) Having said that, LAIC is plain obscure. Can't we just get th

RE: [linux-audio-dev] LADMEA revisited (was: LAAGA and supporting programs)

2001-10-02 Thread Richard W.E. Furse
> -Original Message- > From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of Karl > MacMillan > Sent: 29 September 2001 23:37 > To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > Subject: Re: [linux-audio-dev] LADMEA revisited (was: LAAGA and > supporting programs) [...] > It is certainly true that there

Re: [linux-audio-dev] LAAGA/JACK/LAIC

2001-10-02 Thread Tom
Pardon me but... How about SoftWire? This name has a few things going for it. It has a play on words. (software - softwire) Its name and meaning are the same. (software wire) It conforms to the probable next-generation hardware interconnect name. Stand-alone hardware boxes will be connected wit

Re: [linux-audio-dev] NAMING and related [OT?]

2001-10-02 Thread Kevin Conder
On Mon, 1 Oct 2001, Paul Davis wrote: > > 1. Package early and often. > Unless you don't feel your codebase is ready for users that don't know > their way around gdb and a C++ compiler. The original thread was about how to make Linux audio applications more accessible to non-program

[linux-audio-dev] Rant about bad documentation.

2001-10-02 Thread Kevin Conder
I saw this note on the Csound mailing list and thought I'd forward it here. I agree with the point that poorly documented programs are harder to use. Note: I am Kevin Conder in Chicago and this is Kevin Parks in Seoul, Korea. I took the liberty of adding some paragraph breaks to

[linux-audio-dev] Re: [Alsa-devel] books on c

2001-10-02 Thread Michael Gilfix
While I'm not too sure about a book for audio programming, I highly recommend "Practical C Programming", published by O'Reilly. It's easy to follow and provides a nice introduction to the unix programming environment. -- Mike On Tue, Oct 02 @ 08:22, dave willis wrote: > i

Re: [linux-audio-dev] LAAGA/JACK/LAIC (last try ;)(OT)

2001-10-02 Thread Marek Peteraj
Here is what made me come up with this idea [LAIC(LinuxAudioInterConnection)=layman]: Subject: Re: [linux-audio-dev] LADMEA Prototype From: Paul Davis (pbd_AT_Op.Net) Date: Tue Aug 14 2001 - 15:55:55 EEST ... last night, i thought of an analogy/metaphor) to illustrate the difference between the

[linux-audio-dev] books on c

2001-10-02 Thread dave willis
i don't know much about c, and am wondering if anyone has recommendations on books for learning c for unix/linux, as well as for audio. i wish to maybe help a bit with the alsa driver, but mainly learn how to program audio/midi apps using alsa. thanks, dave

Re: [linux-audio-dev] LAAGA/JACK/LAIC

2001-10-02 Thread CLOTILDE
My two cents: in french 'LAIC' is quite opposed to 'religious' (example: 'a laic school'). Well I prefer 'JACK' . Better for musicians. On Mon, 1 Oct 2001 16:08:42 -0700 "STEFFL, ERIK *Internet* (SBCSI)" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > -Original Message- > > From: David Gerard Matthews