Re: [linux-audio-dev] So, what to do about it? (was: Still I cannotunderstand why...)

2001-12-18 Thread dave willis
On Mon, 17 Dec 2001, Paul Davis wrote: the rate at which data arrives over s/pdif *is* the exact sample rate that the CD is burning at (well, unless you're insane). there is no need for throttling, pitch control or anything like that. ??? dats are 48000, and cds are 44100. doesn't some sort

RE: [linux-audio-dev] Still I cannot understand why...

2001-12-18 Thread Ivica Bukvic
1) Poor documentation That's why we should put some effort to change this. 2) Difficult installation and configuration (not for me, but for users of my software) Of course! This is because Alsa is not a part of the kernel. Once it becomes a part of kernel, it will be the same like OSS in

RE: [linux-audio-dev] Still I cannot understand why...

2001-12-18 Thread Ivica Bukvic
I think you're lacking a bit in historical perspective. For quite a long time, *most* of the actually useable apps we had came from other unices. When I first came here (1997?), the best soundfile editors I could find were DAP, MiXViews, and Snd. IIRC, *all* of those were developed on SGI

Re: [linux-audio-dev] Introducing DMIDI

2001-12-18 Thread martijn sipkema
BTW, some LAD-folk may not be aware that sfront networking: http://www.cs.berkeley.edu/~lazzaro/nmp/index.html uses RTP for MIDI, we presented our Internet-Draft at IETF 52 in Salt Lake a few weeks ago: http://www.ietf.org/internet-drafts/draft-lazzaro-avt-mwpp-midi-nmp-00.txt and it

[linux-audio-dev] Which Linux for notebook pro audio?

2001-12-18 Thread John Thaden
I've been lurking for years on your group, watching the exciting evolution of Linux sound and hoping one day to be able to pitch in. I'm about to load (or have someone load) a Unix-like OS on a partition of my Thinkpad T23 laptop, with one aim being home recording using the tools being

Re: [linux-audio-dev] So, what to do about it? (was: Still I cannot understand why...)

2001-12-18 Thread Paul Davis
the rate at which data arrives over s/pdif *is* the exact sample rate that the CD is burning at (well, unless you're insane). there is no need for throttling, pitch control or anything like that. you just buffer the data on startup to protect against latency glitches, convert the samples to

Re: [linux-audio-dev] Which Linux for notebook pro audio?

2001-12-18 Thread Jörn Nettingsmeier
hello john ! i think this is a perfect question for linux-audio-user, so i have taken the liberty to cc: it there. if you aren't subscribed yet, please consider doing so. info at http://www.linuxdj.com/audio/lad/user.php3. John Thaden wrote: I've been lurking for years on your group,

Re: [linux-audio-dev] So,what to do about it? (was: Still I cannotunderstand why...)

2001-12-18 Thread David Gerard Matthews Jr.
dave willis wrote: On Mon, 17 Dec 2001, Paul Davis wrote: ??? dats are 48000, and cds are 44100. doesn't some sort of resampling need to occur here? Every pro DAT I've ever used has had the option to run at 44100, an option I always to take advantage of to avoid resampling or multiple

RE: [linux-audio-dev] Still I cannot understand why...

2001-12-18 Thread Alexander Ehlert
Hi, Of course! This is because Alsa is not a part of the kernel. Once it becomes a part of kernel, it will be the same like OSS in this respect. Pff, nothing would change, if alsa is in the kernel? I don't see why this should suddenly make things easier? I don't see the necessity to put in

[linux-audio-dev] Re: Scheduler ( was: Just a second ) ...

2001-12-18 Thread Roger Larsson
This might be of interest on linux-audio-dev too... On Tuesday den 18 December 2001 07.09, Linus Torvalds wrote: On Mon, 17 Dec 2001, William Lee Irwin III wrote: 5: 46490271 XT-PIC soundblaster Approximately 4 times more often than the timer interrupt. That's not nice...

[linux-audio-dev] Re: Scheduler ( was: Just a second ) ...

2001-12-18 Thread Herman Oosthuysen
My tuppence worth from a real-time embedded perspective: A shorter time slice and other real-time improvements to the scheduler will certainly improve life to the embedded crowd. Bear in mind that 90% of processors are used for embedded apps. Shorter time slices etc. means smaller buffers, less

[linux-audio-dev] Re: Scheduler ( was: Just a second ) ...

2001-12-18 Thread Linus Torvalds
On Tue, 18 Dec 2001, Roger Larsson wrote: Lets see: we have 1 GHz CPU and interrupts at 1000 Hz = 1 Mcycle / interrupt - is that insane? Ehh.. First off, the CPU may be 1GHz, but the memory subsystem, and the PCI subsystem definitely are _not_. Most PCI cards still run at a (comparatively)

Re: [linux-audio-dev] Still I cannot understand why...

2001-12-18 Thread Jussi Laako
Tim Goetze wrote: oh, flamed be you, jussi. Thanks. read the source and see what alsa is made of. they didn't make new syscalls, you know? I know how it's made, I've read some sources just to be able to get something done with alsa-lib. it must have escaped my attention that they forced

Re: [linux-audio-dev] Still I cannot understand why...

2001-12-18 Thread Jussi Laako
Paul Davis wrote: you chose to use a development version when you wanted a stable one. thats the source of any and all other issues you have with ALSA. Aww, what should I use then? People are saying that nobody should use 0.5 as 0.9 is so great. The only reason to write support for 0.9 was

RE: [linux-audio-dev] Still I cannot understand why...

2001-12-18 Thread STEFFL, ERIK *Internet* (SBCSI)
-Original Message- From: Ivica Bukvic [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] ... I have to completely disagree with your statement here. I could not care less for BSD, Solaris or any other flavor or *nix. I use Linux and that is all I care for. Neither do I see any similarity with Windows

Re: [linux-audio-dev] Still I cannot understand why...

2001-12-18 Thread Dan Hollis
On Tue, 18 Dec 2001, Jussi Laako wrote: Dan Hollis wrote: Tell us how to cleanly fit multichannel cards eg RME or ice1712 into this OSS model. I don't have any problems with my Delta 1010 using OSS. I've been using it all the ways I need. What _is_ the problem? And what ways are you using

Re: [linux-audio-dev] Still I cannot understand why...

2001-12-18 Thread Jörn Nettingsmeier
Jussi Laako wrote: Btw. how much testing has ALSA got under Linux/PPC? works for me for all the basic stuff. i haven't tried to run one of the heavier packages like MusE or ardour, but it should work out ok. maybe it just needs a few more users to smoothen out. -- Jörn Nettingsmeier

Re: [linux-audio-dev] Still I cannot understand why...

2001-12-18 Thread dave willis
On Tue, 18 Dec 2001, Jussi Laako wrote: I don't have any problems with my Delta 1010 using OSS. I've been using it all the ways I need. What _is_ the problem? so, i guess that 85 ms latency whenever /dev/dsp is opened does not matter to you? it matters to me (i have the audiophile). -dave

[linux-audio-dev] Hard-drives and soundcard support

2001-12-18 Thread Wa Ditti
A Cautionary tale: I bought a pair of IBM 40's for my ASUS A7A266 motherboard. Mandrake 8.1 would run weirdly for about a week, then I would have to reinstall it. Windows 2000 Pro declared them corrupt right of the bat and wouldn't load at all. After three months of changing every jumper setting

RE: [linux-audio-dev] Still I cannot understand why...

2001-12-18 Thread Ivica Bukvic
that's very shortsighted. also selfish (in contrast to sharing ideas that are behind linux). I do not see it being that way since there is no way that I could, for instance, write a good Alsa port for crapple architecture when I do not even own one. I see nothing selfish or shortsighted

Re: [linux-audio-dev] Still I cannot understand why...

2001-12-18 Thread Dan Hollis
On Tue, 18 Dec 2001, Jussi Laako wrote: Dan Hollis wrote: On Tue, 18 Dec 2001, Jussi Laako wrote: Where can I download hardware specs for the RME Hammerfall series so that I can write some own code for it? It's not available at ALSA site. Why? The same reason andre hedrick doesn't