Re: [gsmp-devel] Re: [linux-audio-dev] open-source like hardware

2002-01-16 Thread Jussi Laako
Erik Walthinsen wrote: > > computer via firewire. This alone makes it pointless to do processing in > the I/O box. I think it should be only remote controlled system where actual data flow doesn't go through the host computer. Modular system with it's own bus. Something like VME & RACEway. The

Re: [linux-audio-dev] open-source like hardware

2002-01-16 Thread Jussi Laako
Joe Pfeiffer wrote: > > It would be nice to be able to use a chip that isn't single-source, > though -- like a 7400 in the TTL world. You could argue that a 7400 > isn't open in the sense of open-source code, but its specs are > completely open and there are myriad vendors. I don't think there

Re: [linux-audio-dev] LADSPA 1.1

2002-01-16 Thread Steve Harris
On Wed, Jan 16, 2002 at 08:42:02 -, Richard W.E. Furse wrote: > Okay, I'll try to find time to sort this one out. Do you need it right now, > or can I leave it for a bit? I'd prefer to do it very slightly differently > (I'd prefer not to use so many bits plus ideally I'd also like to be able t

Re: [gsmp-devel] Re: [linux-audio-dev] open-source like hardware

2002-01-16 Thread Erik Walthinsen
On Wed, 16 Jan 2002, Rene Rebe wrote: > > This is pretty much the design I'm working on, except using a simple > > microcontroller, not a DSP. What would the DSPs by used for for this > > device? > > To run custom effects! Reverb, EQ, Vocoder, Flanger ... - whatever. I'm still trying to figure o

Re: [linux-audio-dev] open-source like hardware

2002-01-16 Thread Joe Pfeiffer
Rene Rebe writes: > > > > It would be nice to be able to use a chip that isn't single-source, > > though -- like a 7400 in the TTL world. You could argue that a 7400 > > isn't open in the sense of open-source code, but its specs are > > completely open and there are myriad vendors. > > E

Re: [linux-audio-dev] LADSPA 1.1

2002-01-16 Thread Richard Guenther
On Wed, 16 Jan 2002, Steve Harris wrote: > Late last year there was some discussion about LADSPA 1.1, the defaults > issue still needs resolving, so can we agree on it? > > Paul's suggested addition to handle defaults looks like: > > -

RE: [linux-audio-dev] LADSPA 1.1

2002-01-16 Thread Richard W.E. Furse
Okay, I'll try to find time to sort this one out. Do you need it right now, or can I leave it for a bit? I'd prefer to do it very slightly differently (I'd prefer not to use so many bits plus ideally I'd also like to be able to specify default values). --Richard > -Original Message- > Fr

Re: [linux-audio-dev] LADSPA 1.1

2002-01-16 Thread Richard Guenther
On Wed, 16 Jan 2002, Frank Neumann wrote: > > Hi, > [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: > > > Paul's suggested addition to handle defaults looks like: > > [..] > > Just one small nitpicker here: > > > #define LADSPA_HINT_DEFAULT_MID0x200 /* set to min+(max-min/2) */ > > Make that "/* set to

Re: [linux-audio-dev] open-source like hardware

2002-01-16 Thread Rene Rebe
From: Joe Pfeiffer <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Subject: Re: [linux-audio-dev] open-source like hardware Date: Wed, 16 Jan 2002 12:27:03 -0700 > Jussi Laako writes: > > Paul Davis wrote: > > > > > > the chip design is not open source. its a proprietary device, > > > manufactured in industrial quantit

Re: [linux-audio-dev] open-source like hardware

2002-01-16 Thread Joe Pfeiffer
Jussi Laako writes: > Paul Davis wrote: > > > > the chip design is not open source. its a proprietary device, > > manufactured in industrial quantities. i don't see it as at all > > similar to the ideas discussed in this thread. > > It's just an interface chip. As FPGA or DSP processor di

RE: [linux-audio-dev] Software patents ... was EVO legal status

2002-01-16 Thread STEFFL, ERIK *Internet* (SBCSI)
> -Original Message- > From: Joachim Backhaus [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] > > I'm living in germany / europe does that mean > that I can ignore the US patents since we > have a different patent system??? > (I think it's not going that way) > > Fuck software patents. > > Regards > Joachi

Re: [linux-audio-dev] open-source like hardware

2002-01-16 Thread Jussi Laako
"John S. Rhoades" wrote: > > systems, why not just use the host CPU? With dual Athlons and low > latency patches, you have a huge number of CPU cycles per sample Because it doesn't have enough power. Think about few biggest Creamware Pulsars running in dual Athlon system. > available at the dr

Re: [linux-audio-dev] open-source like hardware

2002-01-16 Thread Jussi Laako
Paul Davis wrote: > > the chip design is not open source. its a proprietary device, > manufactured in industrial quantities. i don't see it as at all > similar to the ideas discussed in this thread. It's just an interface chip. As FPGA or DSP processor discussed here. Nobody was planning to make

Re: [linux-audio-dev] open-source like hardware

2002-01-16 Thread Jussi Laako
Paul Davis wrote: > > there are good reasons why certain kinds of devices don't exist. the > most common is that hardly anyone wants them. the fact that you and a > few other people want them *a lot* doesn't do anything to balance the > fact that very few people want them at all. companies that m

Re: [linux-audio-dev] LADSPA 1.1

2002-01-16 Thread Frank Neumann
Hi, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: > Paul's suggested addition to handle defaults looks like: [..] Just one small nitpicker here: > #define LADSPA_HINT_DEFAULT_MID0x200 /* set to min+(max-min/2) */ Make that "/* set to min+((max-min)/2) */" :-). SCNR, Frank

Re: [linux-audio-dev] EVO status...was: (open-source like hardware)

2002-01-16 Thread Paul Davis
>Or pyqt? (I know Paul loves KDE so much 8-) heh. i love it as much as i love GNOME :) --p

[linux-audio-dev] LADSPA 1.1

2002-01-16 Thread Steve Harris
Late last year there was some discussion about LADSPA 1.1, the defaults issue still needs resolving, so can we agree on it? Paul's suggested addition to handle defaults looks like: -- /* Hint LADSPA_HINT_DEFAULT_* indicates that

[linux-audio-dev] Plugin design decisions

2002-01-16 Thread Steve Harris
I've hacked together a low(-ish) latency convolver for LADSPA. The are some unusual design decisions that I'm not sure how to resolve though. It currently runs a 3ms latency, which is good for a convolver, but lousy comapred to a filter. I can cut this down to 0 or 1.5ms (depending on the host's

Re: [linux-audio-dev] EVO status...was: (open-source like hardware)

2002-01-16 Thread Nick Bailey
Paul Davis wrote: > >I would like to code up a proto of the interface though. I was > >planning on trying to do it with python and something like wxPython. > >Mostly because Python is my new favorite language and I need a good > >graphics project to work on. > > any chance you'd consider using p

Re: [linux-audio-dev] EVO, GUI...was: (EVO status)

2002-01-16 Thread Paul Davis
>> there are 2 excellent books on GTK+ programming (both >> online), and an almost complete API reference manual online. > >Where can I find them? >thanks API Reference: http://developer.gnome.org/doc/API/api-toc.html Havoc Pennington's book: http://developer.gnome.org/doc/GGAD/ggad.

Re: [linux-audio-dev] EVO status...

2002-01-16 Thread Tobias Ulbricht
On Tue, 15 Jan 2002, Paul Davis wrote: > >Thats actually a good point... I guess the answer is if 2 GB is > >enough RAM to have enough channels to overload the CPU and IO > >bandwith of the host. Things like GigaSampler allow you to layer and > >a bunch of instruments into one channel. > > > >I

RE: [linux-audio-dev] open-source like hardware

2002-01-16 Thread Helin Mikko.A (NET/Tampere)
I would also go for ICE1712. This chipset is started to be used in consumer grade soundcards like Terratec 6fire, and I'm sure VIA/ICE have something even more competitively priced stuff coming out soon to compete with Creative and Crystal (why would they have acquired ICE in the first place if al

Re: [linux-audio-dev] Software patents -> EVO consequence ?

2002-01-16 Thread Tobias Ulbricht
> > I'm living in germany / europe does that mean > that I can ignore the US patents since we > have a different patent system??? That's exactly the point now, isn't it? Richard Smith is in the US. Benno is in Italy. [others maybe] What would be the consequences for Benno coding against US pate

Re: [linux-audio-dev] Software patents ... was EVO legal status

2002-01-16 Thread iriXx
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Re: [gsmp-devel] Re: [linux-audio-dev] open-source like hardware

2002-01-16 Thread Rene Rebe
From: Erik Walthinsen <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Subject: [gsmp-devel] Re: [linux-audio-dev] open-source like hardware Date: Tue, 15 Jan 2002 19:07:36 -0800 (PST) > On Wed, 16 Jan 2002, Rene Rebe wrote: > > > Building an external audio-box with multi analog input and outputs > > containting at least on

Re: [linux-audio-dev] Software patents ... was EVO legal status

2002-01-16 Thread Rene Rebe
From: Joachim Backhaus <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Subject: [linux-audio-dev] Software patents ... was EVO legal status Date: Wed, 16 Jan 2002 09:34:44 +0100 > Hi, > > I'm living in germany / europe does that mean > that I can ignore the US patents since we > have a different patent system??? > (I thin

Re: [linux-audio-dev] EVO, GUI...was: (EVO status)

2002-01-16 Thread Marek Peteraj
> there are 2 excellent books on GTK+ programming (both > online), and an almost complete API reference manual online. Where can I find them? thanks Marek

Re: [linux-audio-dev] EVO status...was: (open-source like hardware)

2002-01-16 Thread Marek Peteraj
On Wed, 2002-01-16 at 01:20, Paul Davis wrote: > > > >> as i said, unix-like operating systems have done disk readahead for almost > >> as long as unix-like operating systems have existed (and multics > >> before them, i believe). we cannot allow nemesys/conexant to steal > >> this technology by

Re: [linux-audio-dev] Software patents ... was EVO legal status

2002-01-16 Thread Marek Peteraj
On Wed, 2002-01-16 at 09:34, Joachim Backhaus wrote: > Hi, > > I'm living in germany / europe does that mean > that I can ignore the US patents since we > have a different patent system??? > (I think it's not going that way) > There are rumours floating around that the EU might want to adopt s/

Re: [linux-audio-dev] EVO status...was: (open-source like hardware)

2002-01-16 Thread Kai Vehmanen
On Wed, 16 Jan 2002, Richard Smith wrote: >>> I have also been in contacted by Nemesis and they have indicated that >>> if I were to do anything that infringes on thier patent(s) they >>> _WILL_ litigate. > I'm sure it had nothing to do with the fact that in an e-mail conversation with one >of

[linux-audio-dev] Software patents ... was EVO legal status

2002-01-16 Thread Joachim Backhaus
Hi, I'm living in germany / europe does that mean that I can ignore the US patents since we have a different patent system??? (I think it's not going that way) Fuck software patents. Regards Joachim PS: But if no one knows that I use patented technology ... ;) Perhaps we can provide patented