Re: [linux-audio-dev] XAP spec & PTAF comments [merge]

2003-02-08 Thread Steve Harris
On Sat, Feb 08, 2003 at 11:55:00 +0100, David Olofson wrote: > On Saturday 08 February 2003 13.17, Steve Harris wrote: > [...brachless clamp...] > > Its not an instruction its just a bit of maths using fabs(). > > Yes, of course! I keep forgetting that fabs() is an FPU operation. :-) > (Life's no

Re: [linux-audio-dev] XAP spec & PTAF comments [merge]

2003-02-08 Thread Steve Harris
On Sat, Feb 08, 2003 at 12:03:01 -0800, Tim Hockin wrote: > > Branching to fill your delay line with explit 0.0's intead of reading them > > from a buffer of zeros doesn't help. We allready know that reverbs cant > > support it at all. Efficieny reasons would also rule out flangers, delays, > > mos

Re: [linux-audio-dev] XAP spec & PTAF comments [merge]

2003-02-08 Thread Steve Harris
On Sat, Feb 08, 2003 at 11:54:28 -0800, Tim Hockin wrote: > > [silence detection] > > > > You still have unpredicatable CPU load, which makes it pretty useless. > > ...for you For anyone working in realtime, who doesn't want dropouts. The seems to be the common case. - Steve

Re: [linux-audio-dev] PTAF link and comments

2003-02-08 Thread Tim Hockin
> > I'm starting to agree. I really dislike the idea that the host has > > to read a plugin's output control to get extra stuff for a preset. > > This is not an exception. It has to do something like that all the > time, since inputs are not readable. Has everyone forgotten that? We don't have

[linux-audio-dev] Re: [Jackit-devel] JACK 0.50 released

2003-02-08 Thread Davy Durham
0.5 works great for me. However, I get a warning at run-time: *** libjack: WARNING! Use of function jack_set_buffer_size_callback() is deprecated! *** Should I just remove this as a necessary callback setup or is it renamed now? Taybin Rutkin wrote: Jack Audio Connection Ki

Re: [linux-audio-dev] XAP spec & PTAF comments [merge]

2003-02-08 Thread David Olofson
On Saturday 08 February 2003 21.03, Tim Hockin wrote: > > Branching to fill your delay line with explit 0.0's intead of > > reading them from a buffer of zeros doesn't help. We allready > > know that reverbs cant support it at all. Efficieny reasons would > > also rule out flangers, delays, most fi

Re: [linux-audio-dev] PTAF link and comments

2003-02-08 Thread David Olofson
On Saturday 08 February 2003 20.52, Tim Hockin wrote: > > On Sat, Feb 08, 2003 at 07:41:43 +0100, David Olofson wrote: > > > As a matter of fact, if you just loop the output back to the > > > input, the "LEARN" switch is all you need. Whenever you flip > > > the switch to "off" the new data would b

Re: [linux-audio-dev] XAP spec & PTAF comments [merge]

2003-02-08 Thread David Olofson
On Saturday 08 February 2003 13.17, Steve Harris wrote: [...brachless clamp...] > Its not an instruction its just a bit of maths using fabs(). Yes, of course! I keep forgetting that fabs() is an FPU operation. :-) (Life's not that nice with ints on most CPUs...) [...] > > Besides, if you have s

Re: [linux-audio-dev] XAP stuff still pending

2003-02-08 Thread David Olofson
On Saturday 08 February 2003 07.41, Tim Hockin wrote: > > > 2) Do we need a run_adding() form of run()? [...first "yes" - then "*man*, this is messy!"...] > I've never seen such a fast about-face! :) *hehe* Well, it's because I keep seeing new parts of the picture. It's easy when you think abou

Re: [linux-audio-dev] PTAF link and comments

2003-02-08 Thread David Olofson
On Saturday 08 February 2003 13.12, Steve Harris wrote: > On Sat, Feb 08, 2003 at 07:41:43 +0100, David Olofson wrote: > > As a matter of fact, if you just loop the output back to the > > input, the "LEARN" switch is all you need. Whenever you flip the > > switch to "off" the new data would be send

Re: [linux-audio-dev] PTAF link and comments

2003-02-08 Thread David Olofson
On Saturday 08 February 2003 07.40, Tim Hockin wrote: [...] > Then let me restate - I bet that a LOT of plugins will hardlimit to > their controls ranges. Soft-limits will be done by people who are > used to not having a limit, but if we succeed and get market > capture, no one will really use sof

[linux-audio-dev] [ANN] ALSA Patch Bay 0.5.1 (bug fix)

2003-02-08 Thread Bob Ham
Hi, There was a problem compiling the gtkmm ui in 0.5.0 with the latest sigc++.. oops :) Fixed now. Trivial patch attached, and a new tarball and everything up on the website. http://pkl.net/~node/alsa-patch-bay.html Bob -- Bob Ham <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> --- main-window.cpp.0.5.0 2003-0

Re: [linux-audio-dev] XAP spec & PTAF comments [merge]

2003-02-08 Thread Tim Hockin
> Branching to fill your delay line with explit 0.0's intead of reading them > from a buffer of zeros doesn't help. We allready know that reverbs cant > support it at all. Efficieny reasons would also rule out flangers, delays, > most filters and choruses. Maybe I'm missing something, but how can

[linux-audio-dev] JACK 0.50 released

2003-02-08 Thread Taybin Rutkin
Jack Audio Connection Kit 0.50.0 Released The Jack team is pleased to announce the release of version 0.50.0 of the Jack low-latency audio server. Jack allows applications to share data and audio devices in synchronous operation, a

Re: [linux-audio-dev] XAP spec & PTAF comments [merge]

2003-02-08 Thread Tim Hockin
> [silence detection] > > You still have unpredicatable CPU load, which makes it pretty useless. ...for you

Re: [linux-audio-dev] PTAF link and comments

2003-02-08 Thread Tim Hockin
> On Sat, Feb 08, 2003 at 07:41:43 +0100, David Olofson wrote: > > As a matter of fact, if you just loop the output back to the input, > > the "LEARN" switch is all you need. Whenever you flip the switch to > > "off" the new data would be send back to the input. When you save a > > preset, the h

Re: [linux-audio-dev] XAP stuff still pending

2003-02-08 Thread Steve Harris
On Sat, Feb 08, 2003 at 07:16:44 +0100, David Olofson wrote: > Yes - but we should only encourage it for small/fast plugins that are > expected to be used in many instances, and/or commonly used as the > last stage in mixer strips and the like. > > Maybe we should even *discourage* authors of pl

Re: [linux-audio-dev] XAP spec & PTAF comments [merge]

2003-02-08 Thread Steve Harris
On Fri, Feb 07, 2003 at 07:25:25 -0800, Tim Hockin wrote: > > Now, there is a problem here: If you have a chain of plugins, and some > > of them don't support silence, these will screw things up for the > > silence aware plugins. However, if we apply silence detectors on the > > outputs of plugi

Re: [linux-audio-dev] XAP spec & PTAF comments [merge]

2003-02-08 Thread Steve Harris
On Sat, Feb 08, 2003 at 03:06:40 +0100, David Olofson wrote: > On Saturday 08 February 2003 02.17, Tim Hockin wrote: > [...] > > Assuming we really want to allow soft-limits (which I just don't > > get), we can just say that if you want a hardlimit, constrain it > > internally. > > Yeah. > > As t

Re: [linux-audio-dev] XAP spec & PTAF comments [merge]

2003-02-08 Thread Steve Harris
On Sat, Feb 08, 2003 at 12:09:59 +0100, David Olofson wrote: > On Friday 07 February 2003 23.07, Steve Harris wrote: > [...] > > > You might ove the conditionals around a bit depending on which > > > case you want to be the fastest, but I don't think it gets much > > > more fun than that. > > > > T

Re: [linux-audio-dev] PTAF link and comments

2003-02-08 Thread Steve Harris
On Sat, Feb 08, 2003 at 07:41:43 +0100, David Olofson wrote: > As a matter of fact, if you just loop the output back to the input, > the "LEARN" switch is all you need. Whenever you flip the switch to > "off" the new data would be send back to the input. When you save a > preset, the host would

[linux-audio-dev] [ANN] ALSA Patch Bay 0.5.0

2003-02-08 Thread Bob Ham
Hi all, Now supports jack. It needs the patchbay-facilitating jack functions that are only in cvs atm, tho; there's been no tarball release with them yet. And yes, it's still called "ALSA" patchbay :) * added jack driver, also installing a jack-patch-bay link to alsa-patch-bay and a jack-patc

[linux-audio-dev] [ANN] AlsaPlayer 0.99.74

2003-02-08 Thread Andy Lo A Foe
Hello! AlsaPlayer 0.99.74 is out! This release includes a ton of new features and many bug fixes. Most notable are preliminary Icecast/Shoutcast streaming support (mp3 and ogg sources), CDDB lookup for CD tracks, a new xosd interface plygin, expanded libalsaplayer API, FLAC http streaming, command