Re: [linux-audio-dev] Free Software vs. Open Source: Where do *you* stand?

2006-02-20 Thread Richard Spindler
2006/2/20, Pete Bessman <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>: > WHAT is your NAME? Richard Spindler > WHAT is your QUEST? Write, use and advocate FREE Software. > WHAT is your FAVORITE ALBUM? I don't listen to music very much. Hi, First of all, I'm not a musician, but a programmer. I enjoy hacking audio and

Re: [linux-audio-dev] Re: [linux-audio-user] Free Software vs. Open Source: Where do*you* stand?

2006-02-20 Thread Lee Revell
On Mon, 2006-02-20 at 23:15 -0500, Pete Bessman wrote: > For the kind of stuff I'm interested in (see my above band references > to > get an idea), I think it is eminently clear that Linux isn't good > enough. Maybe it is just me, but I have been struggling intensely for > some time to get things

Re: [linux-audio-dev] Re: [linux-audio-user] Free Software vs. Open Source: Where do*you* stand?

2006-02-20 Thread Pete Bessman
On Mon, 20 Feb 2006 15:21:19 -0500, "Paul Davis" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> said: > On Mon, 2006-02-20 at 14:55 -0500, Pete Bessman wrote: > > So let's hear it! > > > > WHAT is your NAME? > > > > WHAT is your QUEST? > > i can hack ardour part time while i work. i can hack ardour full > time while i live t

[linux-audio-dev] Guitar Rig 2 for Linux

2006-02-20 Thread Michael Ost
We are interested in getting the new Guitar Rig 2 USB foot controller supported in Linux/Wine. It's described here: http://www.native-instruments.com/index.php?id=guitarrig2_us I assume from looking at it, that a USB driver would be required and then perhaps some Wine tweaks to let the plugin ope

Re: [linux-audio-dev] Re: [linux-audio-user] Re: Free Software vs. Open Source: Where do *you* stand?

2006-02-20 Thread David Olofson
On Monday 20 February 2006 23:41, David Kastrup wrote: [...] > It is annoying. If I want a Porsche engine in a VW bug, I can buy > the parts and all relevant service manuals and plans, and put a > mechanic to work. Actually, you might run into trouble with the electronics! Some engine management

Re: [linux-audio-dev] Re: [linux-audio-user] Re: Free Software vs. Open Source: Where do *you* stand?

2006-02-20 Thread Christoph Eckert
> Without the ability to adapt the software to different devices or > applications, or fix errors (or pay someone to do that), the software > is crippled in its usefulness. True; buy a licence which includes sources and the right to change it. That's it. > When buying electronic appliances, at

Re: [linux-audio-dev] Re: [linux-audio-user] Re: Free Software vs. Open Source: Where do *you* stand?

2006-02-20 Thread fons adriaensen
On Mon, Feb 20, 2006 at 11:41:43PM +0100, David Kastrup wrote: > > They have paid for a license to use it, and for nothing else. > > Well, then they might have some expectation to be able to use it, no? > Without the ability to adapt the software to different devices or > applications, or fix err

Re: [linux-audio-dev] Re: [linux-audio-user] Re: Free Software vs. Open Source: Where do *you* stand?

2006-02-20 Thread David Kastrup
fons adriaensen <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > On Mon, Feb 20, 2006 at 11:01:10PM +0100, David Kastrup wrote: > >> Lee Revell <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: >> >> > By this logic, locking my doors is immoral because it diminishes >> > people's freedom to roam around my house. >> >> Those people have

Re: [linux-audio-dev] Re: [linux-audio-user] Re: Free Software vs. Open Source: Where do *you* stand?

2006-02-20 Thread Lee Revell
On Mon, 2006-02-20 at 23:01 +0100, David Kastrup wrote: > > By this logic, locking my doors is immoral because it diminishes > > people's freedom to roam around my house. > > Those people have not paid for access to your house. Purchasers of > proprietary software _have_ paid for access to the so

Re: [linux-audio-dev] Re: [linux-audio-user] Re: Free Software vs. Open Source: Where do *you* stand?

2006-02-20 Thread fons adriaensen
On Mon, Feb 20, 2006 at 11:01:10PM +0100, David Kastrup wrote: > Lee Revell <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > > > By this logic, locking my doors is immoral because it diminishes > > people's freedom to roam around my house. > > Those people have not paid for access to your house. Purchasers of > pr

[linux-audio-dev] Re: [linux-audio-user] Re: Free Software vs. Open Source: Where do *you* stand?

2006-02-20 Thread Lee Revell
On Mon, 2006-02-20 at 22:53 +0100, Björn Lindström wrote: > Lee Revell <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>: > > > On Mon, 2006-02-20 at 22:28 +0100, Björn Lindström wrote: > >> In so far as moral can be applied here, restricting people from > >> tinkering with the software they run is immoral, since it diminishes

Re: [linux-audio-dev] Re: [linux-audio-user] Re: Free Software vs. Open Source: Where do *you* stand?

2006-02-20 Thread David Kastrup
Lee Revell <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > On Mon, 2006-02-20 at 22:28 +0100, Björn Lindström wrote: >> In so far as moral can be applied here, restricting people from >> tinkering with the software they run is immoral, since it diminishes >> their freedom. > > By this logic, locking my doors is im

[linux-audio-dev] Re: [linux-audio-user] Re: Free Software vs. Open Source: Where do *you* stand?

2006-02-20 Thread Lee Revell
On Mon, 2006-02-20 at 22:28 +0100, Björn Lindström wrote: > In so far as moral can be applied here, restricting people from > tinkering with the software they run is immoral, since it diminishes > their freedom. By this logic, locking my doors is immoral because it diminishes people's freedom to

[linux-audio-dev] [ANN] E-Radium V0.61e and Das_Watchdog V0.2.0

2006-02-20 Thread Kjetil S. Matheussen
Download from http://ccrma.stanford.edu/~kjetil/src/ * E-radium E-radium is Radium and a special version of E-UAE (with support for realtime scheduling and alsa midi). Radium is a unique type of music event editor made to be effici

Re: [linux-audio-dev] Re: Free Software vs. Open Source: Where do *you* stand?

2006-02-20 Thread Lee Revell
On Mon, 2006-02-20 at 22:18 +0100, Christian Henz wrote: > On Mon, Feb 20, 2006 at 01:01:48PM -0800, Kjetil S. Matheussen wrote: > > > > > > > > Well, if you find windows software better suited for your needs, you > > should definitely go windows. Music is what we work for, right? > > But pleas

Re: [linux-audio-dev] Re: Free Software vs. Open Source: Where do *you* stand?

2006-02-20 Thread Thomas Vecchione
Well, if you find windows software better suited for your needs, you should definitely go windows. Music is what we work for, right? But please, IMO, don't pay for any non-open source software. There are lots of excellent p2p tools you can use to get the software you need. Please don't support

Re: [linux-audio-dev] Re: Free Software vs. Open Source: Where do *you* stand?

2006-02-20 Thread Christian Henz
On Mon, Feb 20, 2006 at 01:01:48PM -0800, Kjetil S. Matheussen wrote: > > > > Well, if you find windows software better suited for your needs, you > should definitely go windows. Music is what we work for, right? > But please, IMO, don't pay for any non-open source software. There are > lots o

[linux-audio-dev] Re: [linux-audio-user] Re: Free Software vs. Open Source: Where do *you* stand?

2006-02-20 Thread Lee Revell
On Mon, 2006-02-20 at 13:01 -0800, Kjetil S. Matheussen wrote: > But please, IMO, don't pay for any non-open source software. There are > lots of excellent p2p tools you can use to get the software you need. > Please don't support makers of non-open source software. What?!?!? Are you serious?

Re: [linux-audio-dev] Re: Free Software vs. Open Source: Where do *you* stand?

2006-02-20 Thread David Kastrup
"Kjetil S. Matheussen" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > Pete Bessman: >> >> Well, I'm about to crack open a can of worms, but let me just say that >> I'm 100% not interested in starting any debates/fights/riots/states-of- >> emergency. All I'm interested in is hearing where people stand and why >> -

[linux-audio-dev] Re: [linux-audio-user] Free Software vs. Open Source: Where do *you* stand?

2006-02-20 Thread Brett W. McCoy
Pete Bessman wrote: This email is way, way longer than I intended it to be, and for that I apologize. Remember that I'm not looking to stir up any hostilities, I just want to hear where people stand on The Issues and get a sense of the community. I predict that there are people here on a moral

[linux-audio-dev] Re: Free Software vs. Open Source: Where do *you* stand?

2006-02-20 Thread Kjetil S. Matheussen
Pete Bessman: Well, I'm about to crack open a can of worms, but let me just say that I'm 100% not interested in starting any debates/fights/riots/states-of- emergency. All I'm interested in is hearing where people stand and why --- I don't want to persuade people one way or the other, and I'd

Re: [linux-audio-dev] Free Software vs. Open Source: Where do *you* stand?

2006-02-20 Thread Christoph Eckert
Hi, being a desktop user, I mainly use Linux for the freedom it grants. The software I use doesn't try to bind me to proprietary file formats, the system doesn't hide things from me (not talking about my own ignorance here ;-) and the collaboration with all the other people around is pure fu

Re: [linux-audio-dev] Free Software vs. Open Source: Where do *you* stand?

2006-02-20 Thread Jan Depner
On Mon, 2006-02-20 at 14:55 -0500, Pete Bessman wrote: > This email is way, way longer than I intended it to be, and for that I > apologize. Remember that I'm not looking to stir up any hostilities, I > just want to hear where people stand on The Issues and get a sense of > the community. I pred

RE: [linux-audio-dev] Free Software vs. Open Source: Where do *you* stand?

2006-02-20 Thread Cornell III, Howard M
Sir Robin The Holy Grail The White Album, no, the Dark Side of the MooArggh -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Pete Bessman Sent: Monday, February 20, 2006 1:56 PM To: LAU Cc: LAD Subject: [linux-audio-dev] Free Software vs. Open

[linux-audio-dev] Re: [linux-audio-user] Free Software vs. Open Source: Where do *you* stand?

2006-02-20 Thread Paul Davis
On Mon, 2006-02-20 at 14:55 -0500, Pete Bessman wrote: > So let's hear it! > > WHAT is your NAME? > > WHAT is your QUEST? i can hack ardour part time while i work. i can hack ardour full time while i live the rest of my life. but i know for sure that i definitely can't get into philosophical deb

[linux-audio-dev] Free Software vs. Open Source: Where do *you* stand?

2006-02-20 Thread Pete Bessman
Well, I'm about to crack open a can of worms, but let me just say that I'm 100% not interested in starting any debates/fights/riots/states-of- emergency. All I'm interested in is hearing where people stand and why --- I don't want to persuade people one way or the other, and I'd like to ask that e

Re: [linux-audio-dev] [ANN] sverb 0.90

2006-02-20 Thread Cedric Roux
Hi Julien, I'll try to work on it. What about a pipe-approach? I don't want to deal with the zillions of audio file formats, so I'll take raw mono input on stdin (float or short, little or big endian) and produce raw data (float or short) on stdout. You could set parameters with zillions of comman

Re: [linux-audio-dev] [ANN] sverb 0.90

2006-02-20 Thread Julien Claassen
Hi Cedric! Can sverb work without a gui, like a simple command-line utility? I'm blind, yet would like to use this piece of software. It sounds great! Kindest regards Julien Music was my first love and it will be my last (John Miles) FIND MY WEB-PROJECT AT: h