Re: [linux-audio-dev] Re: No Subject

2006-02-25 Thread Jan Depner
On Sat, 2006-02-25 at 19:19 -0500, Lee Revell wrote: > On Wed, 2006-02-22 at 21:25 -0600, Jan Depner wrote: > > On Wed, 2006-02-22 at 01:23 -0500, Lee Revell wrote: > > > On Wed, 2006-02-22 at 06:14 +, peter wrote: > > > > i have a question for you though, would you take widespread copyright >

Re: [linux-audio-dev] Re: Which widgets?

2006-02-25 Thread Jan Depner
On Sat, 2006-02-25 at 16:56 +0200, Sampo Savolainen wrote: > On Sat, 2006-02-25 at 13:15 +0100, Carlo Capocasa wrote: > > Heh, I'm only a novice programmer, and I'm already lazy :) > > Ah, the sign of a good programmer. :) > > > KDE and Gnome both appear greedy to me. They both want me to use the

[linux-audio-dev] ICMC 2006: Extended Deadlines

2006-02-25 Thread park
Please pardon cross postings and feel free to distribute this announcement. ICMC 2006: Extended Deadlines Y'all are invited to submit your best, finest, or even craziest works to the 2006 ICMC conference to be held in New Orleans, Louisiana, USA from November 6 - 11, 2006. To facilitate the sub

Re: [linux-audio-dev] Re: Which widgets?

2006-02-25 Thread Lee Revell
On Sat, 2006-02-25 at 22:29 -0500, Dave Robillard wrote: > This is much less true of GNOME than KDE, FWIW. > Also before you spout off make sure you've tried a recent version, both desktops have been de-bloated a lot lately. Lee

Re: [linux-audio-dev] Re: Which widgets?

2006-02-25 Thread Dave Robillard
On Sun, 2006-26-02 at 01:17 +0100, Albert Graef wrote: > Yes, having a good canvas widget certainly helps, and Tk has a nice one. > The one in Gnocl provides a similar interface while it is based on GNOME > Canvas. (Looks like GNOME Canvas isn't liked very much by some, but I > found it to be qu

Re: [linux-audio-dev] Re: Which widgets?

2006-02-25 Thread Dave Robillard
On Sat, 2006-25-02 at 13:15 +0100, Carlo Capocasa wrote: > > I'm a programmer = I'm lazy = I don't want to write printing dialogs, or > > VFS support, especially since it's already provided by gnome. > > Heh, I'm only a novice programmer, and I'm already lazy :) > > I think widgets are a GOOD thi

Re: [linux-audio-dev] Which widgets?

2006-02-25 Thread Dave Robillard
On Sat, 2006-25-02 at 01:14 +, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: > Hello all. > > I've always steered clear of writing GUIs, so my experience is pretty > limited. But now I find myself needing a toolkit/widget set. > > What's recommended? I'd prefer not to have to move my app from C to > C++ just to

[linux-audio-dev] Re: Which widgets?

2006-02-25 Thread Carlo Capocasa
>>for (int i=0;i> cout << i << endl; > > > Shouldn't you put parentheses around on or the other of those > left shift operators? :-) What atrociously obscure communication method have you loaded into your mind? This is C++! > let rec intersect lst = > function > [] -> [] >

Re: [linux-audio-dev] Re: Which widgets?

2006-02-25 Thread Erik de Castro Lopo
Albert Graef wrote: > /me wrote: > > To make this thread go totally off-topic, here's the same in Q: > > Sorry, I forgot one equation: > > intersect Xs [] = []; > intersect Xs [Y|Ys] = [Y|intersect Xs Ys] if any (=Y) Xs; > = intersect Xs Ys otherwise; Ah yeah, like Hask

Re: [linux-audio-dev] Portable C++ MIDI libraries review

2006-02-25 Thread Kjetil S. Matheussen
Hi, I've had the pleasure and misfortune to test both of the widely known portable MIDI libraries, and now believe I have found one that works to my satisfaction. This is not a quantifiable review with benchmarking but the subjective experience of someone who has implemented a very simple yet

Re: [linux-audio-dev] Re: Which widgets?

2006-02-25 Thread Albert Graef
/me wrote: To make this thread go totally off-topic, here's the same in Q: Sorry, I forgot one equation: intersect Xs [] = []; intersect Xs [Y|Ys] = [Y|intersect Xs Ys] if any (=Y) Xs; = intersect Xs Ys otherwise; -- Dr. Albert Gr"af Dept. of Music-Informatics, Univers

Re: [linux-audio-dev] Re: No Subject

2006-02-25 Thread Lee Revell
On Wed, 2006-02-22 at 21:25 -0600, Jan Depner wrote: > On Wed, 2006-02-22 at 01:23 -0500, Lee Revell wrote: > > On Wed, 2006-02-22 at 06:14 +, peter wrote: > > > i have a question for you though, would you take widespread copyright > > > infringement over pervasive DRM (and it's associated outc

Re: [linux-audio-dev] Re: Which widgets?

2006-02-25 Thread Albert Graef
cdr wrote: since this thread is so GTK+-centric i'll chime in and say ive found nothing i like for easily creating customized/flexible GUIs more than Tcl/Tk [...] Not to forget there's also Gnocl which lets you program Gnome and GTK+ applications in Tcl: http://www.dr-baum.net/gnocl/ I've a

Re: [linux-audio-dev] Re: Which widgets?

2006-02-25 Thread Albert Graef
Erik de Castro Lopo wrote: for (int i=0;i Shouldn't you put parentheses around on or the other of those left shift operators? :-) Now, << was left-associative, wasn't it? Or was it? ;-) If you want pristine beauty, you should have a look the function to find the intersection of two lists in

Re: [linux-audio-dev] Re: Which widgets?

2006-02-25 Thread Erik de Castro Lopo
Carlo Capocasa wrote: > > > Ah, the sign of a good programmer. :) > > There are actually people who still count, when > > for (int i=0;i cout << i << endl; Shouldn't you put parentheses around on or the other of those left shift operators? :-) > is in itself a work of pristine beauty, immen

Re: [linux-audio-dev] Re: Which widgets?

2006-02-25 Thread cdr
> > Heh, I'm only a novice programmer, and I'm already lazy :) since this thread is so GTK+-centric i'll chime in and say ive found nothing i like for easily creating customized/flexible GUIs more than Tcl/Tk and Ruby-on-Rails. both tools allow me to do exactly what i want with minimal fuss - i

Re: [linux-audio-dev] Which widgets?

2006-02-25 Thread Jan Depner
James, I normally prefer Qt but when I started working with JAMin Steve got me started using GTK (no one wanted to switch to C++ from C). We used Glade to build the graphics structure and it is really simple and easy to use. If you want to stay in C I would suggest trying that. On Sat, 200

[linux-audio-dev] Re: Which widgets?

2006-02-25 Thread Carlo Capocasa
> Ah, the sign of a good programmer. :) There are actually people who still count, when for (int i=0;i It's true that with KDE you are marrying into KDE's family with bastard > cousins like ksycoca, kdeinit, klauncher etc. But this isn't true with > gnome. Well I'm not kissing gnomecanvas. >>T

[linux-audio-dev] Re: Which widgets?

2006-02-25 Thread Carlo Capocasa
> Motif is pretty old and full featured, but it's PITA to use, IMO... Okay, correction. GTK is the oldest full featured toolkit around you can use without gradually going blind.

Re: [linux-audio-dev] Re: Which widgets?

2006-02-25 Thread Sampo Savolainen
On Sat, 2006-02-25 at 13:15 +0100, Carlo Capocasa wrote: > Heh, I'm only a novice programmer, and I'm already lazy :) Ah, the sign of a good programmer. :) > KDE and Gnome both appear greedy to me. They both want me to use their > system and hence, tell me how to use my computer. Very little care

Re: [linux-audio-dev] Re: Which widgets?

2006-02-25 Thread Jussi Laako
On Sat, 2006-02-25 at 12:39 +0100, Carlo Capocasa wrote: > Personally, I'd love to see more GTK2 apps around. > > I think it's the oldest *full featured* toolkit around and I think even > the bloat is bearable (just keep your hands off anything that says 'Gnome') Motif is pretty old and full feat

[linux-audio-dev] Linux soundapps pages updated

2006-02-25 Thread Dave Phillips
Greetings: And another one hits the information goatpath : http://linuxsound.atnet.at (Europe) http://linuxsound.jp (Japan) http://linux-sound.org (USA) Best, dp

[linux-audio-dev] Re: [Ann] Shelljam 0.0.3

2006-02-25 Thread Carlo Capocasa
> is there an URL :) ? Yeah, that's Carlo Capocasa, 28 Dry Acre Road, 0909... no wait. That's http://shelljam.sourceforge.net Carlo

Re: [linux-audio-dev] [Ann] Shelljam 0.0.3

2006-02-25 Thread Christoph Eckert
Hi, > There are also two cutish pictures of myself on the web site now. is there an URL :) ? Best regards ce

[linux-audio-dev] Re: Which widgets?

2006-02-25 Thread Carlo Capocasa
> I'm a programmer = I'm lazy = I don't want to write printing dialogs, or > VFS support, especially since it's already provided by gnome. Heh, I'm only a novice programmer, and I'm already lazy :) I think widgets are a GOOD thing. I also think modularity is a good thing. KDE and Gnome both app

Re: [linux-audio-dev] Re: Which widgets?

2006-02-25 Thread Sampo Savolainen
On Sat, 2006-02-25 at 12:39 +0100, Carlo Capocasa wrote: > Personally, I'd love to see more GTK2 apps around. > > I think it's the oldest *full featured* toolkit around and I think even > the bloat is bearable (just keep your hands off anything that says 'Gnome') /me starts a flamewar Even the p

[linux-audio-dev] [Ann] Shelljam 0.0.3

2006-02-25 Thread Carlo Capocasa
Announcing Shelljam 0.0.3. Almost everything is broken in this release. I am providing it to demonstrate how absolutely, admirably, extensively, beautifully and fantastically plain wonderful the new MIDI interface, RtMidi is. It is so fast you won't believe it. And it does NOT even use low latency

[linux-audio-dev] Re: Which widgets?

2006-02-25 Thread Carlo Capocasa
Personally, I'd love to see more GTK2 apps around. I think it's the oldest *full featured* toolkit around and I think even the bloat is bearable (just keep your hands off anything that says 'Gnome') Carlo

[linux-audio-dev] Portable C++ MIDI libraries review

2006-02-25 Thread Carlo Capocasa
Hi, I've had the pleasure and misfortune to test both of the widely known portable MIDI libraries, and now believe I have found one that works to my satisfaction. This is not a quantifiable review with benchmarking but the subjective experience of someone who has implemented a very simple yet non