Re: [linux-audio-dev] Re: GPL Audio Hardware

2006-04-04 Thread Dmitry Baikov
LAD guys, You are right in your comments, but please, take it easier. Richard and OGP company have no illusions about them being audio professionals. And yes, it's more useful to look at RME, Echo, M-Audio, but keep it cool, please ;) Thank you. Best regards, Dmitry.

Re: [linux-audio-dev] Re: GPL Audio Hardware

2006-04-04 Thread Richard Smith
On 4/4/06, Dmitry Baikov [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: You are right in your comments, but please, take it easier. Richard and OGP company have no illusions about them being audio professionals. And yes, it's more useful to look at RME, Echo, M-Audio, but keep it cool, please ;) Its ok. I was

Re: [linux-audio-dev] GPL Audio Hardware

2006-04-04 Thread Richard Smith
On 4/3/06, Lee Revell [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Mon, 2006-04-03 at 21:33 -0500, Richard Smith wrote: Economically, however, it's entirely a different story. Because of the development and costs involved, low-end graphics is actually not such a great place to start. The attention we

Re: [linux-audio-dev] GPL Audio Hardware

2006-04-04 Thread Jay Vaughan
in the meantime, hardware that is audio capable, and cheap, and Open Source-friendly is plentiful.. put this: http://gbax.com/ together with this: http://www.gp32x.com/board/index.php?showtopic=27289hl= and you have cheap audio hardware with plenty of capabilities to support the open

Re: [linux-audio-dev] Re: GPL Audio Hardware

2006-04-04 Thread Dmitry Baikov
It will be cool to have something like RME Multiface with ExpressCard/34 option. Dmitry.

GPX32 [was: Re: [linux-audio-dev] GPL Audio Hardware]

2006-04-04 Thread Frank Barknecht
Hallo, Jay Vaughan hat gesagt: // Jay Vaughan wrote: in the meantime, hardware that is audio capable, and cheap, and Open Source-friendly is plentiful.. put this: http://gbax.com/ together with this: http://www.gp32x.com/board/index.php?showtopic=27289hl= and you have cheap

Re: GPX32 [was: Re: [linux-audio-dev] GPL Audio Hardware]

2006-04-04 Thread Jay Vaughan
The GPXi32 indeed is funky, however to my knowledge it misses recording capabilities. It could make a great mobile recorder, but without audio-in it is useless. Shouldn't it be possible to build such a USB breakout box with recording capabilities? sure. its also possible to plug in a USB

Re: [linux-audio-dev] GPL Audio Hardware

2006-04-04 Thread Lee Revell
On Tue, 2006-04-04 at 11:41 +0200, Jay Vaughan wrote: where are the cell-phone synths?! This made me throw up in my mouth a little. Lee

Re: [linux-audio-dev] GPL Audio Hardware

2006-04-04 Thread Jens M Andreasen
On Tue, 2006-04-04 at 09:49 -0400, Lee Revell wrote: On Tue, 2006-04-04 at 11:41 +0200, Jay Vaughan wrote: where are the cell-phone synths?! This made me throw up in my mouth a little. Lee [Make way for Lee now ...] CME professional will release U-Key - the first mobiltone

Re: [linux-audio-dev] GPL Audio Hardware

2006-04-04 Thread John Check
On Tuesday 04 April 2006 09:49 am, Lee Revell wrote: On Tue, 2006-04-04 at 11:41 +0200, Jay Vaughan wrote: where are the cell-phone synths?! This made me throw up in my mouth a little. Lee Better than my shoes ;)

Re: [linux-audio-dev] Re: GPL Audio Hardware

2006-04-04 Thread John Check
On Tuesday 04 April 2006 06:27 am, Alfons Adriaensen wrote: What would they pay for it? Whatever I'd pay for commercial hardware of the same performance and quality. Not any different, just better HW required - bus interface (PLX) - FPGA - some memory - codecs - analog

Re: [linux-audio-dev] Re: GPL Audio Hardware

2006-04-04 Thread torbenh
On Tue, Apr 04, 2006 at 04:25:47AM -0500, Richard Smith wrote: On 4/4/06, Dmitry Baikov [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: You are right in your comments, but please, take it easier. Richard and OGP company have no illusions about them being audio professionals. And yes, it's more useful to

Re: [linux-audio-dev] Re: GPL Audio Hardware

2006-04-04 Thread carmen
how expensive is a firewire port ? firewire stuff is THE niche to fill. most newer firewire devices are not supported if if i understand correctly. yeah this would be where my interest is as well. somehow i dont believe the 2 million figure (maybe designing a video card from scratch, and

Re: [linux-audio-dev] Re: GPL Audio Hardware

2006-04-04 Thread Lee Revell
On Tue, 2006-04-04 at 18:41 +, carmen wrote: how expensive is a firewire port ? firewire stuff is THE niche to fill. most newer firewire devices are not supported if if i understand correctly. yeah this would be where my interest is as well. somehow i dont believe the 2 million

Re: [linux-audio-dev] Re: GPL Audio Hardware

2006-04-04 Thread Lee Revell
On Tue, 2006-04-04 at 20:17 +0200, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: how expensive is a firewire port ? firewire stuff is THE niche to fill. most newer firewire devices are not supported if if i understand correctly. What is the status of Linux drivers for this DICE firmware that Paul mentioned a few

Re: [linux-audio-dev] Re: GPL Audio Hardware

2006-04-04 Thread Lee Revell
On Tue, 2006-04-04 at 12:27 +0200, Alfons Adriaensen wrote: For me: * operate at 48 and 96 kHz. Many users also demand 44.1 support, although I don't quite understand why. Lee

Re: [linux-audio-dev] Re: GPL Audio Hardware

2006-04-04 Thread Dmitry Baikov
On 4/4/06, [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: how expensive is a firewire port ? firewire stuff is THE niche to fill. most newer firewire devices are not supported if if i understand correctly. It's is THE niche if it can provide 1-3ms roundtrip latencies. For now (under linux at

Re: [linux-audio-dev] Re: GPL Audio Hardware

2006-04-04 Thread Richard Smith
On 4/4/06, carmen [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: how expensive is a firewire port ? firewire stuff is THE niche to fill. most newer firewire devices are not supported if if i understand correctly. I'll ask. That's a fairly large difference to the current design though. But if there was

Re: [linux-audio-dev] Re: GPL Audio Hardware

2006-04-04 Thread carmen
I think you are missing the point. The current design for OGD1 is a large FPGA with lots of onboard fast RAM and high speed IO ability. Tim is wondering if such a card (perhaps with some modification for audio) would be useful to the audio community. there are several commercial

Re: [linux-audio-dev] Re: GPL Audio Hardware

2006-04-04 Thread carmen
the vendor deciding no longer to make ALSA drivers next week because 96% of their users run MacOSX or WinXP.. this is a distortion. i'm not aware of any vendor actively supporting linux at all, so open audio hardware would definitely be welcomed.. i mean in Echo's case, they gave some

Re: [linux-audio-dev] Re: GPL Audio Hardware

2006-04-04 Thread Lee Revell
On Tue, 2006-04-04 at 20:02 +, carmen wrote: I think you are missing the point. The current design for OGD1 is a large FPGA with lots of onboard fast RAM and high speed IO ability. Tim is wondering if such a card (perhaps with some modification for audio) would be useful to the audio

Re: [linux-audio-dev] Re: GPL Audio Hardware

2006-04-04 Thread Florian Schmidt
On Tue, 04 Apr 2006 15:10:36 -0400 Lee Revell [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Tue, 2006-04-04 at 12:27 +0200, Alfons Adriaensen wrote: For me: * operate at 48 and 96 kHz. Many users also demand 44.1 support, although I don't quite understand why. errm, to be able to play audio cd's

Re: [linux-audio-dev] Re: GPL Audio Hardware

2006-04-04 Thread Pieter Palmers
Richard Smith wrote: On 4/4/06, carmen [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: how expensive is a firewire port ? firewire stuff is THE niche to fill. most newer firewire devices are not supported if if i understand correctly. I'll ask. That's a fairly large difference to the current design though. But

Re: [linux-audio-dev] Re: GPL Audio Hardware

2006-04-04 Thread Lee Revell
On Tue, 2006-04-04 at 22:28 +0200, Florian Schmidt wrote: On Tue, 04 Apr 2006 15:10:36 -0400 Lee Revell [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Tue, 2006-04-04 at 12:27 +0200, Alfons Adriaensen wrote: For me: * operate at 48 and 96 kHz. Many users also demand 44.1 support, although I

Re: [linux-audio-dev] Re: GPL Audio Hardware

2006-04-04 Thread Daniel Wagner
how expensive is a firewire port ? firewire stuff is THE niche to fill. most newer firewire devices are not supported if if i understand correctly. Just to make a bit advertisement, freebob supports few firewire devices on the market :) Generally, I would not recommend to build a firewire

Re: [linux-audio-dev] Re: GPL Audio Hardware

2006-04-04 Thread Lee Revell
On Tue, 2006-04-04 at 20:17 +0200, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: how expensive is a firewire port ? firewire stuff is THE niche to fill. most newer firewire devices are not supported if if i understand correctly. I think there's still a future for PCI devices - I don't expect laptop vendors to

[linux-audio-dev] Re: GPL Audio Hardware

2006-04-04 Thread Loki Davison
On 4/5/06, carmen [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I think you are missing the point. The current design for OGD1 is a large FPGA with lots of onboard fast RAM and high speed IO ability. Tim is wondering if such a card (perhaps with some modification for audio) would be useful to the audio