s propietary apps, but never just blind cloning :)
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If with custom kernel you mean just
a kernel.org one built with customized options, I do that
all the time. It's easy with Gentoo. With patches, there _might_
be conflicts.
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p/2007/03/01/appslinuxaudioorg-01/
If people like it, I will tweak the damn 's' and make a version with colour,
gradients and stuff ;)
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sign(s),
but then dropped it just because I called them not-knobs at
some point (plus being busy otherwise, I guess). Nobody else was
in sight, so I stopped there.
> ... panner, fader (based on Hydrogen).
Looked at Ardour 2 recently? I think you should have a look at
the new sliders and panners.
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that idea floating around, about having converter
plugins to and from frequency domain and other plugins that work in
frequency domain exclusively. Using LV2 with whatever extension(s)
would be necessary.
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evant forum,
> you should know that what you just wrote can be seen as just as much an
> extreme political opinion as well, and that you, by what you wrote,
> continue to nurture a potentional flame war.
>
> I don't know whether it was intentional or not.
Yeah, and y
re, I will wait until the dust settles :)
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rt of library?
http://resonance.org:8000/openinstruments/show/HomePage
(Didn't take off)
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ust be about a common link to the portal, I think.
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uggestions, remarks and criticism :)
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> have good graphics skills ?
I'm going to redo the LAD/LAU one for lad.linuxaudio.org, anyway.
The Gungirl banner freaks me out!
That page could look much better with same height for all ...
but yeah, I know it's unlikely to happen :)
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bership. Unless 1 of the 2 speak up.
Sorry :)
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n?
The SWH collection from our plugin grandmaster Steve contains the
only compressor LADSPAs with sidechain input. I'm pretty sure
there's EQing stuff in there, too.
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#x27;broadcasting' the only valid interpretation of that infamous
exception. So it isn't meant that way, but it's not what it says.
Commercial use is a very broad term.
To me your behaviour of accusing Dave of plain lying is not
acceptable. You seem to implicate dishonesty.
I'm disgusted.
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erhaps the mainpages of both should be similar and both feature
the mailing lists first, followed by links to the wiki with FAQ
and all.
A bit soon for technical details, but I'm for XHTML strict
(or transitional if it must be).
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over, that's great.
> send me an ssh key in a private mail if you want. however i need to talk
> to ico bukvic before giving somebody access, since he owns the box...
Ok. Will do.
I will most likely work a bit more for the theming of
http://lau.linuxaudio.org and then take care of this one.
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wing out all the obsolete stuff (i.e.
> everything except the subscription information and the contrib/ section)
> and maybe linking to all the excellent documentation efforts elsewhere :)
Now this I might be interested in.
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bility problems. Thanks to RDF namespacing, anyone can create
extensions under their own namespace. Successful extensions can then later be
made part of the core spec. Strings can be internationalised easily.
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should
be LVX, though, because that's so cool ;)
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tualy ;)
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gh to get the idea and judge the overall
shapes.
I tried to bring in the idea of things connecting to build
a whole. A puzzle in a way.
I would like to hear of preferences (2 picks are better
than 1), dislikes, and pointers to what could be improved with
a specific variation.
Cheers,
Tho
tinued/
Not that I would want to push you in any direction ;)
Cheers,
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e if I'm wrong.]
Cheers,
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a guitar effects processor called
> a PODxt (there was a POD historically), an audio I/O device called a
> Firepod, and the documentation for the LADSPA Perl module. Perl docs
> are the only non-coincidental hits for "LADSPA POD".
> Thoughts?
++
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ile, and it's
> been in extensive use.
>
> OTOH, if it's not "simple" anymore I understand the need for a change.
Well, the S can be for Streaming.
The L could become Libre, should Linux ever cease to be the main platform.
Cheers,
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foo>bar>baz
ladspa2>sap>xap>peep>peeper>sax>fap>eep>clap>chap>apa>rap>pea>wasap>rap
everything but ladspa(2) is a google nightmare.
Cheers,
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Excellence
Audio Plugins Extraordinary
*shrug*
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y to identify
> LADSPA ports?
Might be. A human readable, not to be translated english name per
port would be nice, though.
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ports are about.
MIDI/OSC
Don't know if the new LADSPAs should be able to handle MIDI/OSC,
but there should be plugins that do it ;)
GUI lib:
There could be 1 or 2 (GTK, QT) libs for generative plugin GUIs,
for hosts not having to reinvent the wheel and for consistency.
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all my own idea, but
Pete Bessman's influence and decisons are all over the place.
Cheers,
Thorsten Wilms
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nt, I think (being all
different means burning bridges).
Zombies and Windows might just fit, though.
Cheers,
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parameters
to track level changes and/or soloing/muting.
Patterns could actualy be Transport Regions triggered from a
track, from which they would need to 'inherit' tempo for normal
operation.
Well ... just food for thought!
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he second
version would become even simpler.
Things like this are no big deal, once you know (and don't forget
again!) bash's 'for' construct ...
Erik: but I'm happy sndfile-convert exists and does its job,
so thanks for that! :)
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d, it didn't take long to arrive at a
bash oneliner for converting a whole directoy.
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a selection rectangle. The later being what can be seen in several
modern sequencer apps.
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a plane and an
arrow up or down between the two (it is not adviced to use body parts
like eyes in icons. even leaving possible cultural issues aside, even
simplified eyes are extremely strong attention catchers ...). For a
camera you only need a rectangle and a trapez.
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tend to be ugly, and things like having
sliders for boolean values sucks, I can't say i miss plugin GUIs like
I got to know while using Cubase VST much. Inconsistent eye-candy
nonsense and useless big marketing labels everywhere ...
Cheers,
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el, but also
> according to its frequency/etc.. ? What if I plug some hardware sliders
> into the Joystick connector of my card to apply some effects while
> performing ?
MIDI Continuous Controlers. Or OSC, as you can have any parameter and
relations between them you want.
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tp://www.nongnu.org/om-synth/
http://smack.berlios.de/
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Dang! Thanks. I do it all the time and still managed to let
it slip out of my definition (now added) :)
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udio or control data.
To arrange refers to repeating, putting into sequence
and layering of recordings.
(A propably a bit rough translation from german)
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t; positioned windows showing these "details" (linked edit
> windows).
Aha, good to know!
> But yes, i mostly agree:-)
Good :)
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gle "cut off" corner, but perhaps will try the
> rounded corners also.
With many small boxes / zoomed far out it will not work so
well, of course. But most containers will be rather big,
and having round corners will be of advantage. Too small
containers will have to be drawn with hard corners, I think.
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ium style interface while simultaneously using a
> conventional graphical window displaying the same data.
Thanks for your thoughts, Tim
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f than text.
But of course some people are more visualy oriented
than others.
I have worked with keyboard internal sequencers and
their list views for years. I don't want to go back
and pretty well know why (allthough list editors are
a nice addition).
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onal
mechanism would be required, of course).
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some inspiration. I would be happy to
further develop my concepts of course (allthough my diploma
in industrial design, same topic: sequencer takes priortiy
for the next 3 months).
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trol can be so much faster and even
healthier. Of course there should still be complete mouse
support.
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h the cursor keys
by holding down Ctrl.
There could be auto-selection of the closest event
when nothing else was selected.
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.gazuga.net/board/viewtopic.php?t=18
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ommon sliders, and it felt backwards!
Fan-slider wheeling will stay as is, differing from QT and
GTK sliders. But I doubt the folks behind the toolkits would
listen and change wheeling direction.
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rs
But the standard set by QT/GTK is hard to ignore, at least as long
as normal sliders are used.
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working on Specimen itself for a while.
The main scenario for the sliders is setting the value according
to your senses (how it sounds or looks right), not staring at
some numbers anyway.
And opening the fan in a direction where it will not hide something
you want to still see isn't the worst idea.
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aight or with negative delay.
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figuration code for SND. But the flickering
> needs to be fixed.
Cool :)
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lways and
fully predictable.
Not to forget that having the cursor back where things started
is quite practical and might speed up things.
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the
problem lies.
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ointer so that it feels like
the fan takes its place.
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On Sat, Jun 26, 2004 at 09:36:26AM +0200, Fons Adriaensen wrote:
>
> I made the observation that educated people usually do not mind having
> to learn something. So if there is a widespread aversion to having to
> learn and read a manual, that seems to indicate that education levels
> have gone do
r to learn something.
What would be so bad about an app providing such good usability
that users of average brightness can understand everything (not
necessarily instantly, but still in short time by themselves)?
Educate people like to spend some time reading documentation
instead of using stuff right away?
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On Fri, Jun 25, 2004 at 12:09:24PM +0100, Dave Griffiths wrote:
> On Fri, 2004-06-25 at 19:29, Thorsten Wilms wrote:
> > Besides, we were talking about widgets. When even single
> > widgets would require to RTFM, what would that mean
> > for a full app?
>
> I thin
On Fri, Jun 25, 2004 at 06:00:42PM +0200, Fons Adriaensen wrote:
> On Fri, Jun 25, 2004 at 06:54:20PM +0200, Thorsten Wilms wrote:
>
> > Requiring the user to read documentation to learn about functionality
> > he would not even expect is not an option.
>
> Have educatio
be, but it would
> be useful.
Are there so many special widgets out there? I would like to hear
about any example someone around here might know.
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ure in Cubase.
I'm going to update the knobs with graphics like you
described (had the idea from the beginning on, but had
concerns about flickering / too much action on the
screen).
But I think fan-sliders would be the better solution in
most cases.
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ck and Hold spins thru all values, first with the small increment
> value and then after some time with the page size.
I think click and hold on spinbox buttons works fine as is.
Seems to have a small delay until it starts, but the rate
is constant. Increasing step size after some time would make
it harder to stop at or near the right value.
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eraly
give a feel for the continous nature of the parameter.
Spinboxes are a good addition to knobs/sliders for providing
numerical info/input and finestepped adjustment.
Limited space can still be a reason for using spinboxes
exclusively for continous parameters.
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s sign.
Middle mouse button should be reserved for paste, right one
for context menu (besides copy/paste it could contain
max, min and 50% commands).
So only clicks with modifier keys are left.
I would propose Ctrl leftclick on -/+ buttons for larger
steps.
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ular system definition of sampler, and it's more
to the point.
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from
each block to all blocks below it.
The menus are for selecting module types.
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y to go for a drumkit.
But there's overlapping in having ranges for both
Multisamples and Multipatches.
Besides clumsy naming I guess Akai and others must
have come up with their own solutions. But I couldn't
find information about that. Guess I have to search
for userguides, if people here don't know about
examples.
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similar results.
So this is a rough idea, free to be picked up. If
there's real interest (a chance of implementation),
it would be my pleasure to further develop it in
cooperation.
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approach to allow both having multiple samples
with greatly varying setups of filters/amps/etc
(drumkits) and multiple samples for chromatic
instruments with smooth changes of filter/amp/etc
settings?
Thanks in advance for any input!
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tion line would leave
the screen otherwise. But I guess that would be rather confusing :)
But there will be a design guideline telling people to avoid placing
fan-sliders close to top or bottom of screen filling windows ;-)
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re multi layered, mostly developed from back to
front anyway.
- Shadow (easier to do with overlapping for not having to recreate
the outline)
- Background
- Juice (let's make it part of the official terminology :)
- Divisor
- Highlight for glassy look (white with varying transparency)
- Frame
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if you further develop
the code ... :)
>
> Painting the divisor and the frame seperately should give you a clear
> look, no?
Huh? Where's the connection to using patterns here?
But anyway, for a less slippery look the best might
be to get rid of the pseudo glass. Might try that
out later on.
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and tends to get closer to
> the user.
Than fan could expand much quicker even linear. But a good idea, would
need to be tested with an implementation.
Thanks.
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refor Ctrl-leftclick should be
configurable.
What about middle-click emulation?
Shift could be used to open the fan area enlarged right
above the slider, or any other way as shortcut to higher
precison.
Alt for changing the value in steps, maybe.
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the
> scaling of the y-axis acceleration.
Better, red line is there, thanks. But it's not possible to get pointer
and indicator movement in sync with the sensitivity-slider.
What are your plans for the pd fan-slider?
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out).
But of course I would like to hear how others feel about this.
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Just compared the screenshot with what I have.
primTri isn't connected, allthough I havn't altered the file.
Switched to edit mode, but I can't create any connections
to primTri, since it's drawn without any ports or whatever
they are called.
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n failed
fanslider.pd 59 0 51 3 (message->text) connection failed
fanslider.pd 61 0 51 2 (message->text) connection failed
Direct Rendering enabled!
GEM: Start rendering
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Any ideas?
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On Fri, Jun 11, 2004 at 12:39:42PM +0200, Alfons Adriaensen wrote:
> On Fri, Jun 11, 2004 at 11:05:36AM +0200, Thorsten Wilms wrote:
>
> > My take on this, I hope I can bring this discussion to a friendlier level:
>
> I have no intention to be unfriendly. And most people who kn
trate on rather common things, while others provide more
freedom. I like modular synths, but they can be counter productive,
making you fiddle around, while the goal might be easily achievable
with a fixed system.
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their experiences with
the pd patch.
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like to have free choice of language, libraries
and toolkits (even though it's painful to see reinvention of the wheel all the
time).
There could be an abstraction layer that allows unified gui on the one side,
and free choice of language and interface style on the other (at least to some
degree).
But there must always be some room for new ideas / experiments.
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that I think of it, for the version with button jumping would be
required. Could only feel very strange otherwise. I guess that means we should
forget about that version, the plain bar version is more readable anyway.
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. Only that a linear widget has
to indicate it's direction even before interaction happens, and that it
makes sense to use vertical for volume and horizonal for pan in the
same interface.
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ts, please!
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meone could help with a
little imagemagick or gimp scripting to do the rotation and
combine it with fixed parts.
Benno:
I think Dave Robillard is right. Only when you're very sure the
saved space can be put to better use, knobs ar an option there.
And the design would have to be adapted to fit in.
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n means telling one thing while meaning something
else (bad communication practice).
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experience. Windows feels so restricted to me,
but i have to use it for Solidworks (and I own a Cubase license).
I somewhat agree about Windows, KDE, Gnome and Grannies, but I think
it's possible to build an environmet well suited for both naive
and powerusers. (And I happen to like Gnomes new simplicity).
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shouldn't have used Blender's terminology
at all, because of what I'm talking about is better
called panes or viewports (no docking/undocking, no
overlap, just resizable areas inside one window).
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might look into it later on (no promise).
> Or perhaps a window manager?
> There is also a need for good gtk and kde themes and icon sets.
There are already so many WMs and themes ...
I found good enough themes/settings for my desktop. Since I will not be
satisfied with anything less then an unfied desktop, I do not intend to
put work into such things.
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On Mon, Apr 12, 2004 at 10:54:12AM +0200, Adrian Gschwend wrote:
> On Sat, 10 Apr 2004 05:52:36 +0200, Thorsten Wilms wrote:
>
> >Ok, now the screenshot Tim Orford linked to
> >(http://80.61.20.184/wiki/smgui_5.png)
>
> what application is this? It doesn't really l
Hi!
Firt of all, since this my first post, some words about me:
My name's Thorsten Wilms, I'm studying industrial design
in Germany/Wuppertal.
I'm very interested in interaction / interface design, and
of course making music on the Linux platform.
My coding skills are _very_ basi
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