Re: [linux-audio-dev] (fwd) Unified Audio Plugin Architecture

2003-01-09 Thread Jay Vaughan
I forwarded the message to someone I know at Access Music (makers of such synths as the Indigo :), who will be joining the meeting before he visits NAMM. Heh heh, thanks for the windup and intro, Vincent ... I dunno if I'm super qualified, but I'll definitely be doing my best to attend both th

Re: [linux-audio-dev] (fwd) Unified Audio Plugin Architecture (Meeting)

2003-01-09 Thread Paul Davis
>>there are some people in the original To: list for the message i >>forwarded who are talking about some related ideas. i can't say more >>than that at this time. >> >>--p > >Why not? Shouldn't these sorts of discussions be wide open, Paul? > >Or is it just a matter of it being too soon, and

Re: [linux-audio-dev] (fwd) Unified Audio Plugin Architecture(Meeting)

2003-01-09 Thread Jay Vaughan
> Plugins really need to be separated from Interface properly in order > for a cross-platform plugin standard to work properly. Every one of > the existing plugin 'standards' was created in an attempt to solve > this DSP/GUI integration issue, and I think its time the problem went > away with

Re: [linux-audio-dev] (fwd) Unified Audio Plugin Architecture (Meeting)

2003-01-09 Thread Steve Harris
On Thu, Jan 09, 2003 at 02:41:25 +0100, Jay Vaughan wrote: > >On Thu, Jan 09, 2003 at 01:00:41 +0100, Jay Vaughan wrote: > > > From my standpoint, I'd love to see DSP processes written to a "UAPA" > > > have a completely text-based interface - stream in XML data, stream > > > it out, over a socket

Re: [linux-audio-dev] (fwd) Unified Audio Plugin Architecture (Meeting)

2003-01-09 Thread Steve Harris
On Thu, Jan 09, 2003 at 08:34:13 -0500, Paul Davis wrote: > >Its not an insurmountable problem, becasue a generic UI library would most > >likely me somewwhat like libvstgui, which defines an API that pligins use > >to provide controls (in theory). There is an implemntation of libvstgui > >for IRIX

Re: [linux-audio-dev] (fwd) Unified Audio Plugin Architecture(Meeting)

2003-01-09 Thread Jay Vaughan
On Thu, Jan 09, 2003 at 01:00:41 +0100, Jay Vaughan wrote: > From my standpoint, I'd love to see DSP processes written to a "UAPA" > have a completely text-based interface - stream in XML data, stream > it out, over a socket (what platform doesn't support this?). Converting between ASCII and IE

Re: [linux-audio-dev] (fwd) Unified Audio Plugin Architecture(Meeting)

2003-01-09 Thread Jay Vaughan
there are some people in the original To: list for the message i forwarded who are talking about some related ideas. i can't say more than that at this time. --p Why not? Shouldn't these sorts of discussions be wide open, Paul? Or is it just a matter of it being too soon, and thus there be

Re: [linux-audio-dev] (fwd) Unified Audio Plugin Architecture (Meeting)

2003-01-09 Thread Paul Davis
>Its not an insurmountable problem, becasue a generic UI library would most >likely me somewwhat like libvstgui, which defines an API that pligins use >to provide controls (in theory). There is an implemntation of libvstgui >for IRIX + X Windows, targeted against Motif. Its 'just' a case of >implem

Re: [linux-audio-dev] (fwd) Unified Audio Plugin Architecture (Meeting)

2003-01-09 Thread Paul Davis
>>Needless to say, this would be great for us if it has an FS compatible >>licence. Do you know if theyre planning ot look at UI issues too, or just >>the DSP code? >> > >Why wait to look at this issue? Seems pertinent to linux-audio-dev >to discuss this now ... > > From my standpoint, I'd love t

Re: [linux-audio-dev] (fwd) Unified Audio Plugin Architecture (Meeting)

2003-01-09 Thread Paul Davis
>Commercial Software vendor tend to look for pratical solutions for the >problems at hand (even if sometimes it makes them really overlook some >technical and political point). I would be astonished to see Steinberg >Emagic Digidesign Cakewalk and the others agree on a solution that doesn't >solves

Re: [linux-audio-dev] (fwd) Unified Audio Plugin Architecture (Meeting)

2003-01-09 Thread Steve Harris
On Thu, Jan 09, 2003 at 01:00:41 +0100, Jay Vaughan wrote: > From my standpoint, I'd love to see DSP processes written to a "UAPA" > have a completely text-based interface - stream in XML data, stream > it out, over a socket (what platform doesn't support this?). Converting between ASCII and IEE

Re: [linux-audio-dev] (fwd) Unified Audio Plugin Architecture (Meeting)

2003-01-09 Thread Sebastien Metrot
- From: "Steve Harris" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Sent: Thursday, 09 January, 2003 13:17 Subject: Re: [linux-audio-dev] (fwd) Unified Audio Plugin Architecture (Meeting) > On Thu, Jan 09, 2003 at 12:49:19 +0100, Sebastien Metrot wrote: > > and st

Re: [linux-audio-dev] (fwd) Unified Audio Plugin Architecture (Meeting)

2003-01-09 Thread Steve Harris
On Thu, Jan 09, 2003 at 12:49:19 +0100, Sebastien Metrot wrote: > Commercial Software vendor tend to look for pratical solutions for the > problems at hand (even if sometimes it makes them really overlook some > technical and political point). I would be astonished to see Steinberg > Emagic Digides

Re: [linux-audio-dev] (fwd) Unified Audio Plugin Architecture(Meeting)

2003-01-09 Thread Jay Vaughan
Needless to say, this would be great for us if it has an FS compatible licence. Do you know if theyre planning ot look at UI issues too, or just the DSP code? Why wait to look at this issue? Seems pertinent to linux-audio-dev to discuss this now ... From my standpoint, I'd love to see DSP pro

Re: [linux-audio-dev] (fwd) Unified Audio Plugin Architecture (Meeting)

2003-01-09 Thread Sebastien Metrot
27;t encoutered this problem already. Sebastien - Original Message - From: "Steve Harris" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Sent: Thursday, 09 January, 2003 12:40 Subject: Re: [linux-audio-dev] (fwd) Unified Audio Plugin Architecture (Meeting) > On Wed

Re: [linux-audio-dev] (fwd) Unified Audio Plugin Architecture (Meeting)

2003-01-09 Thread Steve Harris
On Wed, Jan 08, 2003 at 04:12:39PM -0500, Paul Davis wrote: > A new MMA working group has been formed for discussion of a Unified > Audio Plug-In Architecture. The proposal from Ron Kuper of Cakewalk > is attached below. Needless to say, this would be great for us if it has an FS compatible lice

Re: [linux-audio-dev] (fwd) Unified Audio Plugin Architecture

2003-01-09 Thread Vincent Touquet
On Wed, Jan 08, 2003 at 05:12:47PM -0800, Mark Knecht wrote: [cut] >The way I read Paul's note they are not restricted, therefore they are >public. Wouldn't want to drive that far and find out differently. [cut] Not sure whether this fits in here, but I thought it might be interesting. I forward

Re: [linux-audio-dev] (fwd) Unified Audio Plugin Architecture

2003-01-08 Thread Mark Knecht
On Wed, 2003-01-08 at 16:51, Tim Hockin wrote: > > Sounds like you might be up here in the Bay Area with me? > > Indeed - moving to SF proper next two weeks > > > > FUCK! I'm moving that weekend and I can't change it. Any other California > > > folks? > > > > Yes, but don't know exactly how I

Re: [linux-audio-dev] (fwd) Unified Audio Plugin Architecture

2003-01-08 Thread Tim Hockin
> Sounds like you might be up here in the Bay Area with me? Indeed - moving to SF proper next two weeks > > FUCK! I'm moving that weekend and I can't change it. Any other California > > folks? > > Yes, but don't know exactly how I could help. It would be hard, but not > impossible for me to ge

Re: [linux-audio-dev] (fwd) Unified Audio Plugin Architecture(Meeting)

2003-01-08 Thread Mark Knecht
On Wed, 2003-01-08 at 13:54, Tim Hockin wrote: > > If anyone can get to this, it would be a great idea. I might even > > consider using a frequent flyer ticket for this. not sure yet. > > > Hrrm, Anaheim is a 6 hour drive for me (Finally! Not being in Europe pays > off!!) Sounds like you might

Re: [linux-audio-dev] (fwd) Unified Audio Plugin Architecture (Meeting)

2003-01-08 Thread David Olofson
On Wednesday 08 January 2003 22.54, Tim Hockin wrote: > > If anyone can get to this, it would be a great idea. I might even > > consider using a frequent flyer ticket for this. not sure yet. > > Hrrm, Anaheim is a 6 hour drive for me (Finally! Not being in > Europe pays off!!) > > > Subject: FW: [

Re: [linux-audio-dev] (fwd) Unified Audio Plugin Architecture (Meeting)

2003-01-08 Thread Tim Hockin
> If anyone can get to this, it would be a great idea. I might even > consider using a frequent flyer ticket for this. not sure yet. Hrrm, Anaheim is a 6 hour drive for me (Finally! Not being in Europe pays off!!) > Subject: FW: [mma-members] Announcement: Item #183 Unified Audio Plug-In Archit

[linux-audio-dev] (fwd) Unified Audio Plugin Architecture (Meeting)

2003-01-08 Thread Paul Davis
If anyone can get to this, it would be a great idea. I might even consider using a frequent flyer ticket for this. not sure yet. --p -- To: various folks cc: [EMAIL PROTECTED] From:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: FW: [mm