On Wednesday 25 August 2004 03:50 pm, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
> On Wed, 25 Aug, 2004 at 03:13PM -0400, John Check spake thus:
> > On Wednesday 25 August 2004 02:41 pm, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
> > > On Wed, 25 Aug, 2004 at 01:48PM -0400, John Check spake thus:
> > >
> > >
> > > > YES. This is a m
Alle 12:38, martedì 24 agosto 2004, [EMAIL PROTECTED] ha scritto:
> My linux thought is that the main difference between linux and
> windows is that under windows everything is packaged i.e. that
> one installation will actually get that desired product to work -
> while under linux a lot more time
On Wed, 25 Aug 2004 10:00:30 -0400 (GMT-04:00)
Taybin Rutkin <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> Just out of curiousity, what optimizations did he suggest and
> which ones were a good idea?
The main two "optimisations" were measurable in isolation (small
test programs), but not in the benchmark program
On Wed, 25 Aug, 2004 at 03:13PM -0400, John Check spake thus:
> On Wednesday 25 August 2004 02:41 pm, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
> > On Wed, 25 Aug, 2004 at 01:48PM -0400, John Check spake thus:
> >
> >
> > > YES. This is a much better argument. If it wasn't for having to keep a
> > > source resposi
On Wednesday 25 August 2004 02:41 pm, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
> On Wed, 25 Aug, 2004 at 01:48PM -0400, John Check spake thus:
>
>
> > YES. This is a much better argument. If it wasn't for having to keep a
> > source respository (maybe it's optional) that would save disk space. I
> > used to mount
On Wed, 25 Aug, 2004 at 01:48PM -0400, John Check spake thus:
> YES. This is a much better argument. If it wasn't for having to keep a source
> respository (maybe it's optional) that would save disk space. I used to mount
> the cache on an NFS share (only had a 20GB disk).
I was going to say y
On Wednesday 25 August 2004 07:04 am, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
> On Wed, 25 Aug, 2004 at 05:58PM +1000, Erik de Castro Lopo spake thus:
> > On Tue, 24 Aug 2004 19:56:27 -0400
> >
> > Paul Winkler <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> > > On Tue, Aug 24, 2004 at 06:35:12PM -0400, John Check wrote:
> > > > >
On Wednesday 25 August 2004 03:58 am, Erik de Castro Lopo wrote:
> On Tue, 24 Aug 2004 19:56:27 -0400
>
> Paul Winkler <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> > On Tue, Aug 24, 2004 at 06:35:12PM -0400, John Check wrote:
> > > > > It's completely dwarfed by compile time.
> > >
> > > Are you sure you wanted to
bject: Re: [linux-audio-dev] Hello - FYI - intro
On Tue, 24 Aug 2004 19:56:27 -0400
Paul Winkler <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> On Tue, Aug 24, 2004 at 06:35:12PM -0400, John Check wrote:
> > > > It's completely dwarfed by compile time.
> > >
> >
> >
On Wed, 25 Aug, 2004 at 05:58PM +1000, Erik de Castro Lopo spake thus:
> On Tue, 24 Aug 2004 19:56:27 -0400
> Paul Winkler <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
> > On Tue, Aug 24, 2004 at 06:35:12PM -0400, John Check wrote:
> > > > > It's completely dwarfed by compile time.
> > > >
> > >
> > > Are you su
John Check <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> "what the hell, there couldn't be any more major
> updates". Wrong - one the updates in the batch that
> took 2 days to build got rolled back, and since
> there's no binaries
Tell it to build binary packages, include the relevant
flags to emerge to say "use
On Tue, 24 Aug 2004 19:56:27 -0400
Paul Winkler <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> On Tue, Aug 24, 2004 at 06:35:12PM -0400, John Check wrote:
> > > > It's completely dwarfed by compile time.
> > >
> >
> > Are you sure you wanted to say that ;)
>
> Yes. First rule of optimization: don't optimize somet
On Tuesday 24 August 2004 07:56 pm, Paul Winkler wrote:
> On Tue, Aug 24, 2004 at 06:35:12PM -0400, John Check wrote:
> > > > It's completely dwarfed by compile time.
> >
> > Are you sure you wanted to say that ;)
>
> Yes. First rule of optimization: don't optimize something that's
> statistically
On Tue, Aug 24, 2004 at 06:35:12PM -0400, John Check wrote:
> > > It's completely dwarfed by compile time.
> >
>
> Are you sure you wanted to say that ;)
Yes. First rule of optimization: don't optimize something that's
statistically irrelevant. The speed or lack thereof of portage
is irrelevant g
On Tuesday 24 August 2004 05:34 pm, Paul Winkler wrote:
> On Tue, Aug 24, 2004 at 04:52:05PM -0400, Paul Winkler wrote:
> > On Tue, Aug 24, 2004 at 03:41:17PM -0400, John Check wrote:
> > > And how long does that take vs apt-get update && apt-get dist upgrade?
> > > Take all the milliseconds you sh
Not meaning to start a war or nuthin', but...
On Tue, 24 Aug, 2004 at 02:55PM +0200, Robert Jonsson spake thus:
> On Tuesday 24 August 2004 13.50, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
> > Thanks for your support and I will give Gentoo a shot..
> >
>
> Hi Mark,
>
> I have to disagree with this advice. Though
On Tue, Aug 24, 2004 at 04:52:05PM -0400, Paul Winkler wrote:
> On Tue, Aug 24, 2004 at 03:41:17PM -0400, John Check wrote:
> > And how long does that take vs apt-get update && apt-get dist upgrade?
> > Take all the milliseconds you shave with flags and deduct 'em from the build
> > time and pig-d
On Tue, 2004-08-24 at 17:11, Jan Depner wrote:
> Mark,
>
> Try loading Fedora Core 1 - 100 MB /boot partition, 10GB /
> partition, 2047MB swap, the rest of first disk as /audio or whatever.
> Load "everything" in the package selection (there's an "everything"
> button - this is the coward's w
Mark,
Try loading Fedora Core 1 - 100 MB /boot partition, 10GB /
partition, 2047MB swap, the rest of first disk as /audio or whatever.
Load "everything" in the package selection (there's an "everything"
button - this is the coward's way out but you don't have dependency
hell). Go to Planet C
On Tue, Aug 24, 2004 at 03:41:17PM -0400, John Check wrote:
> And how long does that take vs apt-get update && apt-get dist upgrade?
> Take all the milliseconds you shave with flags and deduct 'em from the build
> time and pig-dog slowness of a package management system that runs on an
> interpre
On Tuesday 24 August 2004 07:17 am, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
> Don't give up just yet!
>
> On Tue, 24 Aug, 2004 at 12:38PM +0200, [EMAIL PROTECTED] spake thus:
>
>
> > energy - to drown people - to open portals of thought and
>
> Drown people? That's a Freedom that linux doesn't really give you.
On Tuesday 24 August 2004 06:38 am, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
> Hi my name is Mark and I have been a silent member for two
> years - having very little experience with the in's and out's of
> Linux. For many years I have blindly believed that Linux is the
> way to go - more because of the concept of
>My linux thought is that the main difference between linux and
>windows is that under windows everything is packaged i.e. that
>one installation will actually get that desired product to work -
this isn't really true. just drop by any of the windows-centric audio
forums on the web - people hav
On Tue, Aug 24, 2004 at 09:50:55PM EST, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
> Thanks for your support and I will give Gentoo a shot..
>
> If I have learnt anything by re-installing it is that the second+ time
> around one starts getting selective and soon a lot of things don't
> seem as important by the th
On Tuesday 24 August 2004 13.50, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
> Thanks for your support and I will give Gentoo a shot..
>
Hi Mark,
I have to disagree with this advice. Though gentoo will give you immense
insight into how things work and it's probably unparallelled performance I
would not consider i
Thanks for your support and I will give Gentoo a shot..
If I have learnt anything by re-installing it is that the second+ time
around one starts getting selective and soon a lot of things don't
seem as important by the third time around.
On 24 Aug 2004 at 12:17, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
> Don'
Don't give up just yet!
On Tue, 24 Aug, 2004 at 12:38PM +0200, [EMAIL PROTECTED] spake thus:
> energy - to drown people - to open portals of thought and
Drown people? That's a Freedom that linux doesn't really give you.
> My linux thought is that the main difference between linux and
> win
Hi my name is Mark and I have been a silent member for two
years - having very little experience with the in's and out's of
Linux. For many years I have blindly believed that Linux is the
way to go - more because of the concept of Open Source which
ties in exactly with my own belief structure.
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