Re: [linux-audio-dev] audiogui

2007-03-01 Thread Dave Phillips
Stephen Sinclair wrote: I think having an OSC-controlled audio back-end is a Good Thing. Agree++ Best, dp

Re: [linux-audio-dev] audiogui

2007-03-01 Thread Steve Harris
On 28 Feb 2007, at 17:29, Stephen Sinclair wrote: PS: does anyone know where I can 'GPL' an decent OSC server implementation in C++? The LibLo implementation is GPL, very easy to use, and available in many distros including Ubuntu. http://liblo.sourceforge.net/ I'm using it for a projec

Re: [linux-audio-dev] audiogui

2007-03-01 Thread Stephen Sinclair
PS: does anyone know where I can 'GPL' an decent OSC server implementation in C++? The LibLo implementation is GPL, very easy to use, and available in many distros including Ubuntu. http://liblo.sourceforge.net/ I'm using it for a project and it seems very good. I think having an OSC-controll

Re: [linux-audio-dev] audiogui

2007-02-28 Thread Loki Davison
On 3/1/07, Eric Dantan Rzewnicki <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: On Tue, Feb 27, 2007 at 09:09:18AM +0100, Leonard Ritter wrote: > On Tue, 2007-02-27 at 11:12 +1100, Loki Davison wrote: > well. when in finetuning mode, the slider obstructs other gui elements. I'm hoping to some day, maybe later this

Re: [linux-audio-dev] audiogui

2007-02-28 Thread Eric Dantan Rzewnicki
On Tue, Feb 27, 2007 at 09:09:18AM +0100, Leonard Ritter wrote: > On Tue, 2007-02-27 at 11:12 +1100, Loki Davison wrote: > well. when in finetuning mode, the slider obstructs other gui elements. I'm hoping to some day, maybe later this year, find a way to make fansliders translucent ... > besides

Re: [linux-audio-dev] audiogui

2007-02-28 Thread Pau Arumi
En/na Chris Cannam ha escrit: I've been considering making a small library of Qt4 widgets based on the ones in the current SVN of Sonic Visualiser -- dial (based on the RG/qsynth one), thumbwheel, panner, fader (based on Hydrogen). They aren't particularly beautiful or consistent to look at --

Re: [linux-audio-dev] audiogui

2007-02-28 Thread torbenh
On Tue, Feb 27, 2007 at 03:45:18PM +, Chris Cannam wrote: > On Monday 26 Feb 2007 23:40, Leonard Ritter wrote: > > radial is for weirdos with the motor skills of a clockmaker. > > Correct! But where have all the radial supporters gone? There were > enough to sustain quite a flamewar about t

Re: [linux-audio-dev] audiogui

2007-02-28 Thread Leonard Ritter
On Wed, 2007-02-28 at 11:14 +0100, Pieter Palmers wrote: > I personally have an issue with this "professional" requirement, > especially if it is about these 'details'. on a sidenote, when approaching the "what is professional" discussion, i like to tell about the coincidence that in german, ano

Re: [linux-audio-dev] audiogui

2007-02-28 Thread Dominique Michel
Le Wed, 28 Feb 2007 13:37:37 +0100, Dominique Michel <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> a écrit : > Le Tue, 27 Feb 2007 22:19:19 +, > Rui Nuno Capela <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> a écrit : > > > Dominique Michel wrote: > > > Le Mon, 26 Feb 2007 13:41:08 +0100, > > > Leonard Ritter <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> a écrit : > > >

Re: [linux-audio-dev] audiogui

2007-02-28 Thread Dominique Michel
Le Tue, 27 Feb 2007 22:19:19 +, Rui Nuno Capela <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> a écrit : > Dominique Michel wrote: > > Le Mon, 26 Feb 2007 13:41:08 +0100, > > Leonard Ritter <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> a écrit : > > > >> On Thu, 2007-02-22 at 06:42 -0600, Jan Depner wrote: > >>> I can say that the QT package is

Re: [linux-audio-dev] audiogui

2007-02-28 Thread Pieter Palmers
Dominique Michel wrote: Le Mon, 26 Feb 2007 13:41:08 +0100, Another problem with Qt/KDE is dcop. It work well inside KDE but produce more warning or error messages in the logs as useful effects on another wm's as kde. Again, it is not what I call "professional". (please don't consider this a

Re: [linux-audio-dev] audiogui

2007-02-28 Thread Pieter Palmers
Loki Davison wrote: On 2/27/07, Pieter Palmers <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: Loki Davison wrote: > On 2/27/07, Pieter Palmers <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: >> Leonard Ritter wrote: >> > On Thu, 2007-02-22 at 06:42 -0600, Jan Depner wrote: >> >> I can say that the QT package is much easier to use and h

Re: [linux-audio-dev] audiogui

2007-02-28 Thread Bengt Gördén
tisdag 27 februari 2007 22:13 skrev Dominique Michel: > Another problem with Qt/KDE is dcop. It work well inside KDE but produce > more warning or error messages in the logs as useful effects on another > wm's as kde. Again, it is not what I call "professional". That might be the case but it is on

Re: [linux-audio-dev] audiogui

2007-02-27 Thread Loki Davison
On 2/27/07, Pieter Palmers <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: Loki Davison wrote: > On 2/27/07, Pieter Palmers <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: >> Leonard Ritter wrote: >> > On Thu, 2007-02-22 at 06:42 -0600, Jan Depner wrote: >> >> I can say that the QT package is much easier to use and has >> >> better docum

Re: [linux-audio-dev] audiogui

2007-02-27 Thread Rui Nuno Capela
Dominique Michel wrote: > Le Mon, 26 Feb 2007 13:41:08 +0100, > Leonard Ritter <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> a écrit : > >> On Thu, 2007-02-22 at 06:42 -0600, Jan Depner wrote: >>> I can say that the QT package is much easier to use and has >>> better documentation and support. Not that GTK is terrible, it

Re: [linux-audio-dev] audiogui

2007-02-27 Thread Dominique Michel
Le Mon, 26 Feb 2007 13:41:08 +0100, Leonard Ritter <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> a écrit : > On Thu, 2007-02-22 at 06:42 -0600, Jan Depner wrote: > > I can say that the QT package is much easier to use and has > > better documentation and support. Not that GTK is terrible, it's just > > not as polished or

Re: [linux-audio-dev] audiogui

2007-02-27 Thread Gene Heskett
On Tuesday 27 February 2007, Thorsten Wilms wrote: >On Tue, Feb 27, 2007 at 03:45:18PM +, Chris Cannam wrote: >> On Monday 26 Feb 2007 23:40, Leonard Ritter wrote: >> > radial is for weirdos with the motor skills of a clockmaker. >> >> Correct! But where have all the radial supporters gone? T

Re: [linux-audio-dev] audiogui

2007-02-27 Thread Chris Cannam
On Tuesday 27 Feb 2007 17:22, Thorsten Wilms wrote: > Looked at Ardour 2 recently? Yes. I like the new fader/meter. Chris

Re: [linux-audio-dev] audiogui

2007-02-27 Thread Camilo Polyméris
Chris Cannam wrote: On Monday 26 Feb 2007 23:40, Leonard Ritter wrote: radial is for weirdos with the motor skills of a clockmaker. Correct! But where have all the radial supporters gone? There were enough to sustain quite a flamewar about this a couple of years back. I prefer lin

Re: [linux-audio-dev] audiogui

2007-02-27 Thread Thorsten Wilms
On Tue, Feb 27, 2007 at 03:45:18PM +, Chris Cannam wrote: > On Monday 26 Feb 2007 23:40, Leonard Ritter wrote: > > radial is for weirdos with the motor skills of a clockmaker. > > Correct! But where have all the radial supporters gone? There were > enough to sustain quite a flamewar about t

Re: [linux-audio-dev] audiogui

2007-02-27 Thread Jens M Andreasen
On Tue, 2007-02-27 at 15:45 +, Chris Cannam wrote: > [...] But what they do do is work consistently: click and drag to > adjust, without any inadvertant jumps on plain clicks; double-click to > open a text field edit window provided by the widget; You could have a single text-field for the l

Re: [linux-audio-dev] audiogui

2007-02-27 Thread Chris Cannam
On Monday 26 Feb 2007 23:40, Leonard Ritter wrote: > radial is for weirdos with the motor skills of a clockmaker. Correct! But where have all the radial supporters gone? There were enough to sustain quite a flamewar about this a couple of years back. I prefer linear in both axes (right or up t

Re: [linux-audio-dev] audiogui

2007-02-27 Thread Leonard Ritter
On Tue, 2007-02-27 at 11:01 +0100, Pieter Palmers wrote: > The "renders panels from stylesheets" is what I am referring to. Phat > is > has very nice widgets, but AFAIK it stops before the container > level. > That's where the widget 'system' comes in: a system that manages > widgets > such th

Re: [linux-audio-dev] audiogui

2007-02-27 Thread Pieter Palmers
Loki Davison wrote: On 2/27/07, Pieter Palmers <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: Leonard Ritter wrote: > On Thu, 2007-02-22 at 06:42 -0600, Jan Depner wrote: >> I can say that the QT package is much easier to use and has >> better documentation and support. Not that GTK is terrible, it's just >> not a

Re: [linux-audio-dev] audiogui

2007-02-27 Thread Leonard Ritter
On Tue, 2007-02-27 at 11:12 +1100, Loki Davison wrote: > and i'm happy with putting this stuff into phat / pyphat if you are. give it some more time. when i made my first synth layouts with it, i'll contribute. > Though i'm more keen to get everyone to use > fansliders for everything because i th

Re: [linux-audio-dev] audiogui

2007-02-26 Thread Loki Davison
On 2/27/07, Pieter Palmers <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: Leonard Ritter wrote: > On Thu, 2007-02-22 at 06:42 -0600, Jan Depner wrote: >> I can say that the QT package is much easier to use and has >> better documentation and support. Not that GTK is terrible, it's just >> not as polished or profess

Re: [linux-audio-dev] audiogui

2007-02-26 Thread Loki Davison
On 2/27/07, Leonard Ritter <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: On Mon, 2007-02-26 at 21:35 +, Chris Cannam wrote: > On Monday 26 Feb 2007 12:41, Leonard Ritter wrote: > > (i dare you to start an audio ui design war with me). > > Radial or linear mouse control for the dials? check it out. it's y-linea

Re: [linux-audio-dev] audiogui

2007-02-26 Thread Leonard Ritter
On Mon, 2007-02-26 at 21:35 +, Chris Cannam wrote: > On Monday 26 Feb 2007 12:41, Leonard Ritter wrote: > > (i dare you to start an audio ui design war with me). > > Radial or linear mouse control for the dials? check it out. it's y-linear. radial is for weirdos with the motor skills of a clo

Re: [linux-audio-dev] audiogui

2007-02-26 Thread Chris Cannam
On Monday 26 Feb 2007 12:41, Leonard Ritter wrote: > (i dare you to start an audio ui design war with me). Radial or linear mouse control for the dials? Chris ducks and runs for cover

Re: [linux-audio-dev] audiogui

2007-02-26 Thread James McDermott
On 2/26/07, Leonard Ritter <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: On Mon, 2007-02-26 at 13:32 +, James McDermott wrote: > and got some errors (pasted in at the end), but the GUI mostly > appeared. This is just a bug report, I don't need to see a fix. yes, i suppose this is version collision. i need thos

Re: [linux-audio-dev] audiogui

2007-02-26 Thread Leonard Ritter
On Mon, 2007-02-26 at 16:24 +0100, Bengt Gördén wrote: > måndag 26 februari 2007 14:20 skrev Frank Smith: > > Hi > > Very nice!! > > Dito thank you! > > Is the 'WTF' the volume control : > > Must be Whats The Fuzz. Can't imagine what else :-D It's the War on Terror Filter of course! --

Re: [linux-audio-dev] audiogui

2007-02-26 Thread Leonard Ritter
On Mon, 2007-02-26 at 13:32 +, James McDermott wrote: > and got some errors (pasted in at the end), but the GUI mostly > appeared. This is just a bug report, I don't need to see a fix. yes, i suppose this is version collision. i need those commands tho. i use cairo 1.3.14 and python-cairo 1.2.

Re: [linux-audio-dev] audiogui

2007-02-26 Thread Bengt Gördén
måndag 26 februari 2007 14:20 skrev Frank Smith: > Hi > Very nice!! Dito > Is the 'WTF' the volume control : Must be Whats The Fuzz. Can't imagine what else :-D -- - Bengan - KTHNOC - No1 Internet Offspring | http://www.noc.kt

Re: [linux-audio-dev] audiogui

2007-02-26 Thread Frank Smith
Hi Very nice!! Is the 'WTF' the volume control : Cheers Bob On 26/02/07, Leonard Ritter <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: On Thu, 2007-02-22 at 06:42 -0600, Jan Depner wrote: > I can say that the QT package is much easier to use and has > better documentation and support. Not that GTK is terr

Re: [linux-audio-dev] audiogui

2007-02-26 Thread James McDermott
here is a demo showing the three widgets DecoBox, Knob and LCD, with different settings applied. http://www.paniq.org/images/audiogui5.png Absolutely beautiful, thanks for making this! I got the code from http://svn.zeitherrschaft.org/aldrin/trunk and got some errors (pasted in at the end)

Re: [linux-audio-dev] audiogui

2007-02-26 Thread Pieter Palmers
Leonard Ritter wrote: On Thu, 2007-02-22 at 06:42 -0600, Jan Depner wrote: I can say that the QT package is much easier to use and has better documentation and support. Not that GTK is terrible, it's just not as polished or professional. the enemy of the good is the better. i, for one, used

[linux-audio-dev] audiogui

2007-02-26 Thread Leonard Ritter
On Thu, 2007-02-22 at 06:42 -0600, Jan Depner wrote: > I can say that the QT package is much easier to use and has > better documentation and support. Not that GTK is terrible, it's just > not as polished or professional. the enemy of the good is the better. i, for one, used the past 3 days to w