Re: [linux-audio-dev] LADSPA 2 name

2006-05-12 Thread Dave Robillard
On Fri, 2006-05-12 at 22:39 +0100, pete wrote: > Lee Revell wrote: > > On Fri, 2006-05-12 at 12:04 +0100, peter wrote: > > > >> On Wed, 2006-05-10 at 07:07 -0400, Lee Revell wrote: > >> > >>> On Wed, 2006-05-10 at 14:55 +0200, Esben Stien wrote: > >>> > ZAP Audio Plugins >

Re: [linux-audio-dev] LADSPA 2 name

2006-05-12 Thread pete
Lee Revell wrote: On Fri, 2006-05-12 at 12:04 +0100, peter wrote: On Wed, 2006-05-10 at 07:07 -0400, Lee Revell wrote: On Wed, 2006-05-10 at 14:55 +0200, Esben Stien wrote: ZAP Audio Plugins I like this one, especially if the R. Crumb reference is intentional

Re: [linux-audio-dev] LADSPA 2 name

2006-05-12 Thread Lee Revell
On Fri, 2006-05-12 at 12:04 +0100, peter wrote: > On Wed, 2006-05-10 at 07:07 -0400, Lee Revell wrote: > > On Wed, 2006-05-10 at 14:55 +0200, Esben Stien wrote: > > > ZAP Audio Plugins > > > > I like this one, especially if the R. Crumb reference is intentional > > > > hmm ZAP. not only the leas

Re: [linux-audio-dev] LADSPA 2 name

2006-05-12 Thread peter
On Wed, 2006-05-10 at 07:07 -0400, Lee Revell wrote: > On Wed, 2006-05-10 at 14:55 +0200, Esben Stien wrote: > > ZAP Audio Plugins > > I like this one, especially if the R. Crumb reference is intentional > hmm ZAP. not only the least offensive recursive acronym i've seen but it's also catchy, ha

Re: [linux-audio-dev] LADSPA 2 name

2006-05-11 Thread Ismael Valladolid Torres
Hans Fugal escribe: > What about Llama? The (Llinux|Llibre) Audio Modules Architecture, or > just a cool animal that has Ls and As in the name. Then we would be faced against a very popular Win32 application that shouts "Winamp, it really whips the Llama's ass!" (Even though I admit I like the na

Re: [linux-audio-dev] LADSPA 2 name

2006-05-10 Thread Hans Fugal
What about Llama? The (Llinux|Llibre) Audio Modules Architecture, or just a cool animal that has Ls and As in the name. The Delay Lama is obviously named after the Dalai Lama, I don't think there would be any serious confusion. Maybe someone would write a Delay Lama lama plugin too. ;-) On Wed,

Re: [linux-audio-dev] LADSPA 2 name

2006-05-10 Thread Steve Harris
On Wed, May 10, 2006 at 08:16:04PM +0400, Dmitry Baikov wrote: > LAMA - Linux(Libre) Audio Modules Architecture > > I hope The Dalai Lama will not object. Good name, but theres a well known VST plugin called Delay Lama. - Steve

Re: [linux-audio-dev] LADSPA 2 name

2006-05-10 Thread Dmitry Baikov
LAMA - Linux(Libre) Audio Modules Architecture I hope The Dalai Lama will not object.

Re: [linux-audio-dev] LADSPA 2 name

2006-05-10 Thread Thorsten Wilms
On Tue, May 09, 2006 at 09:59:53AM +0100, Steve Harris wrote: > > But I like the idea. LV2 is less taken. Early work on the all important logo ;) http://affenbande.org/~thorwil/wordpress/2006/05/10/lv2-ladspa-2/ http://affenbande.org/~thorwil/wordpress/2006/05/10/lv2-ladspa-version-2-continued/

Re: [linux-audio-dev] LADSPA 2 name

2006-05-10 Thread Matthias Koenig
Lee Revell <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > On Wed, 2006-05-10 at 14:55 +0200, Esben Stien wrote: >> ZAP Audio Plugins > > I like this one, especially if the R. Crumb reference is intentional He he, ZAP has in the 90s also been the name of a german Hardcore/Punk Fanzine. Matthias

Re: [linux-audio-dev] LADSPA 2 name

2006-05-10 Thread Lee Revell
On Wed, 2006-05-10 at 14:55 +0200, Esben Stien wrote: > ZAP Audio Plugins I like this one, especially if the R. Crumb reference is intentional

Re: [linux-audio-dev] LADSPA 2 name

2006-05-10 Thread Esben Stien
Steve Harris <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > if you really hate it speak up now. BEAP Environment for Audio Plugins BAM Audio Mangling ZAP Audio Plugins A brainstorm on KLANK, PLOINK, SPLAT, SPLASH, BANG, KABOOM, CRASH, etc;) A name means a lot, in my opinion. It's about taking care of every co

Re: [linux-audio-dev] LADSPA 2 name

2006-05-10 Thread Dave Phillips
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Dave Phillips wrote: If I recall correctly LV2 was the "rock" that the Nostromo set down on (in the movie "Alien"). So it's cool with me. :) Actually that was LV4-26, but it's still cool ;) Yep, you right. Rats, I really wanted it to be that rock... :) B

Re: [linux-audio-dev] LADSPA 2 name

2006-05-10 Thread Steve Harris
On Wed, May 10, 2006 at 07:12:33 +0200, Esben Stien wrote: > Steve Harris <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > > > LV2 > > What happened to the funny recursive acronyms?;). That they don't show > up in a google search don't hold water; f.ex a search for JACK get > you.. our beloved, sacred one. They

Re: [linux-audio-dev] LADSPA 2 name

2006-05-10 Thread Sampo Savolainen
Quoting Esben Stien <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>: > Steve Harris <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > > > LV2 > > What happened to the funny recursive acronyms?;). That they don't show > up in a google search don't hold water; f.ex a search for JACK get > you.. our beloved, sacred one. > > How about a girlie

RE: [linux-audio-dev] LADSPA 2 name

2006-05-09 Thread andym00
Dave Phillips wrote: > If I recall correctly LV2 was the "rock" that the Nostromo > set down on (in the movie "Alien"). > > So it's cool with me. :) Actually that was LV4-26, but it's still cool ;)

Re: [linux-audio-dev] LADSPA 2 name

2006-05-09 Thread Esben Stien
Steve Harris <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > LV2 What happened to the funny recursive acronyms?;). That they don't show up in a google search don't hold water; f.ex a search for JACK get you.. our beloved, sacred one. How about a girlie name to accompany JACK, then?;) Nothing beats daves' PEEP

Re: [linux-audio-dev] LADSPA 2 name

2006-05-09 Thread Dave Phillips
Dave Robillard wrote: I like LV2. Bit of a mouthful when spoken, but then so is VST. If I recall correctly LV2 was the "rock" that the Nostromo set down on (in the movie "Alien"). So it's cool with me. :)

Re: [linux-audio-dev] LADSPA 2 name

2006-05-09 Thread Dave Robillard
On Tue, 2006-05-09 at 09:59 +0100, Steve Harris wrote: > On Mon, May 08, 2006 at 03:29:46PM -0400, Paul Winkler wrote: > > On Mon, May 08, 2006 at 08:20:43PM +0200, Lars Luthman wrote: > > > On Mon, 2006-05-08 at 19:28 +0200, Thorsten Wilms wrote: > > > > Hi! > > > > > > > > Requirements in order

Re: [linux-audio-dev] LADSPA 2 name

2006-05-09 Thread Steve Harris
On Mon, May 08, 2006 at 03:29:46PM -0400, Paul Winkler wrote: > On Mon, May 08, 2006 at 08:20:43PM +0200, Lars Luthman wrote: > > On Mon, 2006-05-08 at 19:28 +0200, Thorsten Wilms wrote: > > > Hi! > > > > > > Requirements in order of importance, highest first: > > > - not likely to get us into leg

Re: [linux-audio-dev] LADSPA 2 name

2006-05-08 Thread Paul Winkler
On Mon, May 08, 2006 at 08:20:43PM +0200, Lars Luthman wrote: > On Mon, 2006-05-08 at 19:28 +0200, Thorsten Wilms wrote: > > Hi! > > > > Requirements in order of importance, highest first: > > - not likely to get us into legal trouble (snip) > L2, where the L is for LADSPA. http://www.waves.com/co

Re: [linux-audio-dev] LADSPA 2 name

2006-05-08 Thread Lars Luthman
On Mon, 2006-05-08 at 19:28 +0200, Thorsten Wilms wrote: > Hi! > > Requirements in order of importance, highest first: > - not likely to get us into legal trouble > - no too obvious negative interpretations/associations > ("too obvious" because it's too hard, internationaly, otherwise) > - no con

Re: [linux-audio-dev] "LADSPA 2" name

2006-04-26 Thread Steve Harris
On Wed, Apr 26, 2006 at 10:29:16 +0200, Jens M Andreasen wrote: > On Wed, 2006-04-26 at 17:48 +0100, Steve Harris wrote: > > > > Then again, domains aren't free, and I know I'm not paying for it. :) > > > > If we can find one thats not too expensive I'll pick up the tab. > > > > - Steve > > If

Re: [linux-audio-dev] "LADSPA 2" name

2006-04-26 Thread Esben Stien
Dave Robillard <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > PEEP - Palindromic Extensible Environment for Plugins This is a very good one;). PEEP Extensible Environment for Plugins -- Esben Stien is [EMAIL PROTECTED] s a http://www. s tn m irc://irc. b - i

Re: [linux-audio-dev] "LADSPA 2" name

2006-04-26 Thread Jens M Andreasen
On Wed, 2006-04-26 at 17:48 +0100, Steve Harris wrote: > > Then again, domains aren't free, and I know I'm not paying for it. :) > > If we can find one thats not too expensive I'll pick up the tab. > > - Steve If you can put up with not beeing the root domain, you could get somthing like [ladsp

Re: [linux-audio-dev] "LADSPA 2" name

2006-04-26 Thread Phil Frost
On Wed, Apr 26, 2006 at 07:13:23PM +0100, Steve Harris wrote: > Thats the kind of suggestion that makes non-free software developers think > were all pissing about. > > But I still dont like it that much ;) > > EEP - Extensible Environment for Plugins? > PEEP - Portable ... > MEEP - Multiplatform

Re: [linux-audio-dev] "LADSPA 2" name

2006-04-26 Thread Dave Robillard
On Wed, 2006-04-26 at 14:58 -0400, Dave Robillard wrote: > PEEP - Palindromic Extensible Environment for Plugins or PEEPER Extensible Environment for Plugins, Entitled Recursively 10 points to anyone who can fit both Palindromic and Recursive in there. ;) -DR-

Re: [linux-audio-dev] "LADSPA 2" name

2006-04-26 Thread Luis Garrido
SAX: Sexy Audio eXtensions (or just make it recursive (TM)) APE: Audio Pluggable Extensions (not my favorite: there is already an important audio application that uses the term and I cringe thinking of the simian lingo that is going to develop around it, but well...) PEA: Pluggable Extensions for A

Re: [linux-audio-dev] "LADSPA 2" name

2006-04-26 Thread Dave Robillard
On Wed, 2006-04-26 at 19:13 +0100, Steve Harris wrote: > On Wed, Apr 26, 2006 at 02:03:38PM -0400, Dave Robillard wrote: > > On Wed, 2006-04-26 at 20:09 +0200, Leonard "paniq" Ritter wrote: > > > On Wed, 2006-04-26 at 11:10 +0300, Sampo Savolainen wrote: > > > > I think we would select a short name

Re: [linux-audio-dev] "LADSPA 2" name

2006-04-26 Thread Steve Harris
On Wed, Apr 26, 2006 at 08:10:23PM +0200, Luis Garrido wrote: > SAX? (Simple Audio eXtensions) Yup, it names also the XML parser, but > it is music related. Incidentally, at some point in the near future it > will be possible to register .ax domain names, don't know under which > conditions. I qui

Re: [linux-audio-dev] "LADSPA 2" name

2006-04-26 Thread Steve Harris
On Wed, Apr 26, 2006 at 08:09:26PM +0200, Leonard paniq Ritter wrote: > On Wed, 2006-04-26 at 11:10 +0300, Sampo Savolainen wrote: > > I think we would select a short name anyway. Most of them are gone already, > > so we have the same problem whichever [a-z][a-z][a-z] we select :) > > > XAP sugge

Re: [linux-audio-dev] "LADSPA 2" name

2006-04-26 Thread Steve Harris
On Wed, Apr 26, 2006 at 02:03:38PM -0400, Dave Robillard wrote: > On Wed, 2006-04-26 at 20:09 +0200, Leonard "paniq" Ritter wrote: > > On Wed, 2006-04-26 at 11:10 +0300, Sampo Savolainen wrote: > > > I think we would select a short name anyway. Most of them are gone > > > already, > > > so we have

Re: [linux-audio-dev] "LADSPA 2" name

2006-04-26 Thread Luis Garrido
SAX? (Simple Audio eXtensions) Yup, it names also the XML parser, but it is music related. Incidentally, at some point in the near future it will be possible to register .ax domain names, don't know under which conditions. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/.ax CHAP? (Cunningly Hacked Audio Plugins) W

Re: [linux-audio-dev] "LADSPA 2" name

2006-04-26 Thread Dave Robillard
On Wed, 2006-04-26 at 20:09 +0200, Leonard "paniq" Ritter wrote: > On Wed, 2006-04-26 at 11:10 +0300, Sampo Savolainen wrote: > > I think we would select a short name anyway. Most of them are gone already, > > so we have the same problem whichever [a-z][a-z][a-z] we select :) > > > XAP suggests t

Re: [linux-audio-dev] "LADSPA 2" name

2006-04-26 Thread Leonard \"paniq\" Ritter
On Wed, 2006-04-26 at 11:10 +0300, Sampo Savolainen wrote: > I think we would select a short name anyway. Most of them are gone already, > so we have the same problem whichever [a-z][a-z][a-z] we select :) XAP suggests this could be an XML document type. what about FAP (FAP Audio Plugin)? GO FAP

Re: [linux-audio-dev] "LADSPA 2" name

2006-04-26 Thread Steve Harris
On Wed, Apr 26, 2006 at 10:55:12AM -0400, Dave Robillard wrote: > > My suggestion is that we ressurect the XAP name > > (http://www.google.com/search?q=lad+xap) > > It stood for Xap Audio Plugin IIRC. > > > > Pros: it's short*, relatively unused** and pronouncable*** > > I know it's stupid, but s

Re: [linux-audio-dev] "LADSPA 2" name

2006-04-26 Thread Dave Robillard
On Wed, 2006-04-26 at 07:23 +0100, Steve Harris wrote: > Several people have suggested that LADSPA is not a great name for what we > are calling LADSPA 2. Reasons for this include: > > The L, it's not really linux specific, and though /we/ know that its the L > of LAD, its not obvious to peopl

Re: [linux-audio-dev] "LADSPA 2" name

2006-04-26 Thread Steve Harris
On Wed, Apr 26, 2006 at 11:10:02 +0300, Sampo Savolainen wrote: > Quoting Steve Harris <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>: > > > My suggestion is that we ressurect the XAP name > > (http://www.google.com/search?q=lad+xap) > > It stood for Xap Audio Plugin IIRC. > > > > Pros: it's short*, relatively unused** and

Re: [linux-audio-dev] "LADSPA 2" name

2006-04-26 Thread Sampo Savolainen
Quoting Steve Harris <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>: > My suggestion is that we ressurect the XAP name > (http://www.google.com/search?q=lad+xap) > It stood for Xap Audio Plugin IIRC. > > Pros: it's short*, relatively unused** and pronouncable*** More pros: we would have a VST -alike logo already! (looking