Re: btrfs (general) raid for other filesystems?

2013-05-19 Thread Chris Murphy
On May 19, 2013, at 12:59 PM, Martin wrote: > > btrfs-raid offers a greater variety and far greater flexibility of raid > options individually for filedata and metadata at the filesystem level. Well it really doesn't. The btrfs raid advantages leverage prior work that makes btrfs what it is.

Re: btrfs (general) raid for other filesystems?

2013-05-19 Thread Martin
On 19/05/13 18:39, Clemens Eisserer wrote: > Hi Martin, > >> So, an interesting variation could be to have filesystem level raid >> operating on ext4 or nilfs or whatever... Would that be a sensible idea? > > Thats already supported by using LVM. What do you think you would gain > from layering i

Re: Virtual Device Support

2013-05-19 Thread Chris Murphy
On May 19, 2013, at 12:18 PM, Chris Murphy wrote: > > It's not possible to mount regular directories with other file systems. In > some ways the btrfs subvolume behaves like a folder. In other ways it acts > like a device. If you stat the mount point for btrfs subvolumes, you get a > unique

Re: Virtual Device Support

2013-05-19 Thread Chris Murphy
On May 19, 2013, at 5:15 AM, Roman Mamedov wrote: > On Fri, 10 May 2013 07:03:38 -0700 > George Mitchell wrote: > >> One the things that is frustrating me the most at this point from a user >> perspective regarding btrfs is the current lack of virtual devices to >> describe volumes and subvo

Re: btrfs (general) raid for other filesystems?

2013-05-19 Thread Clemens Eisserer
Hi Martin, > So, an interesting variation could be to have filesystem level raid > operating on ext4 or nilfs or whatever... Would that be a sensible idea? Thats already supported by using LVM. What do you think you would gain from layering in top of btrfs? - Clemens -- To unsubscribe from this

btrfs pseudo-drbd

2013-05-19 Thread Martin
Dear Devs, Would there be any problem to use nbd (/dev/ndX) devices to gain btrfs-raid across multiple physical hosts across a network? (For a sort of btrfs-drbd! :-) ) Regards, Martin http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Network_block_device http://www.drbd.org/ -- To unsubscribe from this list: se

btrfs (general) raid for other filesystems?

2013-05-19 Thread Martin
Just a random Sunday afternoon thought: We've got some rather nice variations on the block-level RAID schemes but instead being implemented at the filesystem level in btrfs... Could the btrfs RAID be coded to be general so that a filesystem stack could be set up whereby the filesystem level raids

Re: Virtual Device Support

2013-05-19 Thread Martin
OK, so to summarise: On 19/05/13 15:49, George Mitchell wrote: > In reply to both of these comments in one message, let me give you an > example. > > I use shell scripts to mount and unmount btrfs volumes for backup > purposes. Most of these volumes are not listed in fstab simply because > I do

Re: Virtual Device Support

2013-05-19 Thread George Mitchell
In reply to both of these comments in one message, let me give you an example. I use shell scripts to mount and unmount btrfs volumes for backup purposes. Most of these volumes are not listed in fstab simply because I do not want to have to clutter my fstab with volumes that are used only fo

Re: [RFC 0/5] BTRFS hot relocation support

2013-05-19 Thread Martin Steigerwald
Am Sonntag, 19. Mai 2013, 21:43:14 schrieb Zhi Yong Wu: > On Sun, May 19, 2013 at 6:41 PM, Martin Steigerwald wrote: > > Am Donnerstag, 9. Mai 2013, 07:13:56 schrieb Zhi Yong Wu: […] > > ZFS and BTRFS have shown that RAID support within the filesystem can make > > a lot of sense. I think hot relo

Re: [RFC 0/5] BTRFS hot relocation support

2013-05-19 Thread Zhi Yong Wu
On Sun, May 19, 2013 at 6:41 PM, Martin Steigerwald wrote: > Am Donnerstag, 9. Mai 2013, 07:13:56 schrieb Zhi Yong Wu: >> HI, all > > Hi! > >>I saw that bcache will be merged into kernel upstream soon, so i >> want to know if btrfs hot relocation support is still meanful, if no, >> i will not

Re: [RFC 0/5] BTRFS hot relocation support

2013-05-19 Thread Zhi Yong Wu
On Sun, May 19, 2013 at 6:41 PM, Martin Steigerwald wrote: > Am Donnerstag, 9. Mai 2013, 07:13:56 schrieb Zhi Yong Wu: >> HI, all > > Hi! > >>I saw that bcache will be merged into kernel upstream soon, so i >> want to know if btrfs hot relocation support is still meanful, if no, >> i will not

Re: Virtual Device Support

2013-05-19 Thread Roman Mamedov
On Fri, 10 May 2013 07:03:38 -0700 George Mitchell wrote: > One the things that is frustrating me the most at this point from a user > perspective regarding btrfs is the current lack of virtual devices to > describe volumes and subvolumes. From a user perspective btrfs subvolumes have a lot in

Re: Virtual Device Support

2013-05-19 Thread Martin
On 10/05/13 15:03, George Mitchell wrote: > One the things that is frustrating me the most at this point from a user > perspective ... The current method of simply using a > random member device or a LABEL or a UUID is just not working well for > me. Having a well thought out virtual device infra

Re: [RFC 0/5] BTRFS hot relocation support

2013-05-19 Thread Martin Steigerwald
Am Donnerstag, 9. Mai 2013, 07:13:56 schrieb Zhi Yong Wu: > HI, all Hi! >I saw that bcache will be merged into kernel upstream soon, so i > want to know if btrfs hot relocation support is still meanful, if no, > i will not continue to work on it. can anyone let me know this? > thanks. I real