Re: Incremental backup for a raid1

2014-03-15 Thread George Mitchell
Michael, I am currently using rsync INSTEAD of btrfs backup tools. I really don't see anyway that it could be compatible with the backup features of btrfs. As I noted in my post, it is definitely not a perfect solution, but it is doing the job for me. What I REALLY want in this regard is n-

Re: Incremental backup for a raid1

2014-03-15 Thread Hugo Mills
On Sat, Mar 15, 2014 at 12:35:30PM +0100, Michael Schuerig wrote: > On Thursday 13 March 2014 17:29:11 George Mitchell wrote: > > I currently use rsync to a separate drive to maintain a > > backup copy, but it is not integrated into the array like n-way would > > be, and is definitely not a perfe

Re: Incremental backup for a raid1

2014-03-15 Thread Michael Schuerig
On Thursday 13 March 2014 17:29:11 George Mitchell wrote: > I currently use rsync to a separate drive to maintain a > backup copy, but it is not integrated into the array like n-way would > be, and is definitely not a perfect solution. Could you explain how you're using rsync? I was just about t

Re: Incremental backup for a raid1

2014-03-14 Thread Austin S Hemmelgarn
On 2014-03-14 09:46, George Mitchell wrote: > Actually, an interesting concept would be to have the initial two drive > RAID 1 mirrored by 2 additional drives in 4-way configuration on a > second machine at a remote location on a private high speed network with > both machines up 24/7. In that cas

Re: Incremental backup for a raid1

2014-03-14 Thread Duncan
George Mitchell posted on Fri, 14 Mar 2014 06:46:19 -0700 as excerpted: > Actually, an interesting concept would be to have the initial two drive > RAID 1 mirrored by 2 additional drives in 4-way configuration on a > second machine at a remote location on a private high speed network with > both m

Re: Incremental backup for a raid1

2014-03-14 Thread George Mitchell
Actually, an interesting concept would be to have the initial two drive RAID 1 mirrored by 2 additional drives in 4-way configuration on a second machine at a remote location on a private high speed network with both machines up 24/7. In that case, if such a configuration would work, either ma

Re: Incremental backup for a raid1

2014-03-14 Thread Duncan
Michael Schuerig posted on Fri, 14 Mar 2014 09:56:20 +0100 as excerpted: [Duncan posted...] >> 3) Disconnect the backup device(s). (Don't btrfs device delete, this >> would remove the copy. Just disconnect.) Hmm... Looking back at what I wrote... Presumably either have the filesystem unmount

Re: Incremental backup for a raid1

2014-03-14 Thread Michael Schuerig
On Friday 14 March 2014 06:42:27 Duncan wrote: > N-way-mirroring is actually my most hotly anticipated feature for a > different reason[2], but for you it would work like this: > > 1) Setup the 3-way (or 4-way if preferred) mirroring and balance to > ensured copies of all data on all devices. >

Re: Incremental backup for a raid1

2014-03-13 Thread Duncan
Michael Schuerig posted on Thu, 13 Mar 2014 20:12:44 +0100 as excerpted: > My backup use case is different from the what has been recently > discussed in another thread. I'm trying to guard against hardware > failure and other causes of destruction. > > I have a btrfs raid1 filesystem spread over

Re: Incremental backup for a raid1

2014-03-13 Thread Chris Murphy
On Mar 13, 2014, at 7:14 PM, Lists wrote: > > I'm assuming that BTRFS send/receive works similar to ZFS's similarly named > feature. Similar yes but not all options are the same between them. e.g. zfs send -R replicates all descendent file systems. I don't think zfs requires volumes, filesys

Re: Incremental backup for a raid1

2014-03-13 Thread Lists
See comments at the bottom: On 03/13/2014 05:29 PM, George Mitchell wrote: On 03/13/2014 04:03 PM, Michael Schuerig wrote: On Thursday 13 March 2014 16:04:33 Chris Murphy wrote: On Mar 13, 2014, at 3:14 PM, Michael Schuerig wrote: On Thursday 13 March 2014 14:48:55 Andrew Skretvedt wrote:

Re: Incremental backup for a raid1

2014-03-13 Thread George Mitchell
On 03/13/2014 04:03 PM, Michael Schuerig wrote: On Thursday 13 March 2014 16:04:33 Chris Murphy wrote: On Mar 13, 2014, at 3:14 PM, Michael Schuerig wrote: On Thursday 13 March 2014 14:48:55 Andrew Skretvedt wrote: On 2014-Mar-13 14:28, Hugo Mills wrote: On Thu, Mar 13, 2014 at 08:12:44PM +

Re: Incremental backup for a raid1

2014-03-13 Thread Michael Schuerig
On Thursday 13 March 2014 16:04:33 Chris Murphy wrote: > On Mar 13, 2014, at 3:14 PM, Michael Schuerig wrote: > > On Thursday 13 March 2014 14:48:55 Andrew Skretvedt wrote: > >> On 2014-Mar-13 14:28, Hugo Mills wrote: > >>> On Thu, Mar 13, 2014 at 08:12:44PM +0100, Michael Schuerig wrote: >

Re: Incremental backup for a raid1

2014-03-13 Thread Chris Murphy
On Mar 13, 2014, at 3:14 PM, Michael Schuerig wrote: > On Thursday 13 March 2014 14:48:55 Andrew Skretvedt wrote: >> On 2014-Mar-13 14:28, Hugo Mills wrote: >>> On Thu, Mar 13, 2014 at 08:12:44PM +0100, Michael Schuerig wrote: My backup use case is different from the what has been recently

Re: Incremental backup for a raid1

2014-03-13 Thread Michael Schuerig
On Thursday 13 March 2014 14:48:55 Andrew Skretvedt wrote: > On 2014-Mar-13 14:28, Hugo Mills wrote: > > On Thu, Mar 13, 2014 at 08:12:44PM +0100, Michael Schuerig wrote: > >> My backup use case is different from the what has been recently > >> discussed in another thread. I'm trying to guard again

Re: Incremental backup for a raid1

2014-03-13 Thread Brendan Hide
On 2014/03/13 09:48 PM, Andrew Skretvedt wrote: On 2014-Mar-13 14:28, Hugo Mills wrote: On Thu, Mar 13, 2014 at 08:12:44PM +0100, Michael Schuerig wrote: I have a btrfs raid1 filesystem spread over two disks. I want to backup this filesystem regularly and efficiently to an external disk (same m

Re: Incremental backup for a raid1

2014-03-13 Thread Andrew Skretvedt
On 2014-Mar-13 14:28, Hugo Mills wrote: On Thu, Mar 13, 2014 at 08:12:44PM +0100, Michael Schuerig wrote: My backup use case is different from the what has been recently discussed in another thread. I'm trying to guard against hardware failure and other causes of destruction. I have a btrfs ra

Re: Incremental backup for a raid1

2014-03-13 Thread Hugo Mills
On Thu, Mar 13, 2014 at 08:12:44PM +0100, Michael Schuerig wrote: > > My backup use case is different from the what has been recently > discussed in another thread. I'm trying to guard against hardware > failure and other causes of destruction. > > I have a btrfs raid1 filesystem spread over tw

Incremental backup for a raid1

2014-03-13 Thread Michael Schuerig
My backup use case is different from the what has been recently discussed in another thread. I'm trying to guard against hardware failure and other causes of destruction. I have a btrfs raid1 filesystem spread over two disks. I want to backup this filesystem regularly and efficiently to an ext