Re: shall distros run btrfsck on boot?

On 2015-11-28 11:52, Jeff Mahoney wrote: On 11/23/15 11:02 PM, Christoph Anton Mitterer wrote: Hey. Short question since that came up on debian-devel. Now that btrfs check get's more and more useful, are the developers going to recommend running it periodically on boot (of course that

Re: shall distros run btrfsck on boot?

-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On 11/29/15 8:59 PM, Qu Wenruo wrote: > > > Jeff Mahoney wrote on 2015/11/28 11:52 -0500: On 11/23/15 11:02 > PM, Christoph Anton Mitterer wrote: Hey. Short question since that came up on debian-devel. Now that btrfs check

Re: shall distros run btrfsck on boot?

Jeff Mahoney wrote on 2015/11/28 11:52 -0500: -BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA256 On 11/23/15 11:02 PM, Christoph Anton Mitterer wrote: Hey. Short question since that came up on debian-devel. Now that btrfs check get's more and more useful, are the developers going to recommend

Re: shall distros run btrfsck on boot?

-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA256 On 11/23/15 11:02 PM, Christoph Anton Mitterer wrote: > Hey. > > Short question since that came up on debian-devel. > > Now that btrfs check get's more and more useful, are the > developers going to recommend running it periodically on boot (of >

Re: shall distros run btrfsck on boot?

Am Mittwoch, 25. November 2015, 07:32:34 CET schrieb Austin S Hemmelgarn: > On 2015-11-24 17:26, Eric Sandeen wrote: > > On 11/24/15 2:38 PM, Austin S Hemmelgarn wrote: > >> if the system was > >> shut down cleanly, you're fine barring software bugs, but if it > >> crashed, you should be running a

Re: shall distros run btrfsck on boot?

On 2015-11-24 17:26, Eric Sandeen wrote: On 11/24/15 2:38 PM, Austin S Hemmelgarn wrote: if the system was shut down cleanly, you're fine barring software bugs, but if it crashed, you should be running a check on the FS. Um, no... The *entire point* of having a journaling filesystem is that

Re: shall distros run btrfsck on boot?

On Tue, Nov 24, 2015 at 04:26:47PM -0600, Eric Sandeen wrote: > On 11/24/15 2:38 PM, Austin S Hemmelgarn wrote: > > > if the system was > > shut down cleanly, you're fine barring software bugs, but if it > > crashed, you should be running a check on the FS. > > Um, no... > > The *entire point*

Re: shall distros run btrfsck on boot?

On Tue, 2015-11-24 at 22:33 +, Hugo Mills wrote: > whereas a read-only mount of a journalling FS _must_ modify the disk > data after an unclean shitdown, in order to be useful (because the FS > isn't consistent without the journal replay). I've always considered that rather a bug,... or at

Re: shall distros run btrfsck on boot?(Off topic, btrfs per-inode tree idea)

Hugo Mills wrote on 2015/11/24 22:33 +: On Tue, Nov 24, 2015 at 04:26:47PM -0600, Eric Sandeen wrote: On 11/24/15 2:38 PM, Austin S Hemmelgarn wrote: if the system was shut down cleanly, you're fine barring software bugs, but if it crashed, you should be running a check on the FS. Um,

Re: shall distros run btrfsck on boot?

On Wed, Nov 25, 2015 at 12:01:49AM +0100, Christoph Anton Mitterer wrote: > On Tue, 2015-11-24 at 22:33 +, Hugo Mills wrote: > > whereas a read-only mount of a journalling FS _must_ modify the disk > > data after an unclean shitdown, in order to be useful (because the FS > > isn't consistent

Re: shall distros run btrfsck on boot?

On 2015-11-24 12:23, Christoph Anton Mitterer wrote: On Tue, 2015-11-24 at 11:14 -0600, Eric Sandeen wrote: In a nutshell, though, I think a filesystem repair should be an admin-initiated action, not something that surprises you on a boot, at least for a journaling filesystem which is designed

Re: shall distros run btrfsck on boot?

On Tue, 2015-11-24 at 11:14 -0600, Eric Sandeen wrote: > In a nutshell, though, I think a filesystem repair should be an > admin-initiated > action, not something that surprises you on a boot, at least for a > journaling > filesystem which is designed to maintain its integrity even in the > face

Re: shall distros run btrfsck on boot?

On 11/24/15 12:56 AM, Duncan wrote: > Duncan posted on Tue, 24 Nov 2015 06:46:18 + as excerpted: > >> That wouldn't be entirely uncommon, because as Eric mentions, btrfs >> check is intended to be thorough, where the kernel mount-time check is >> intended to be fast. >> >> But of course, as

Re: shall distros run btrfsck on boot?

On 11/24/15 2:38 PM, Austin S Hemmelgarn wrote: > if the system was > shut down cleanly, you're fine barring software bugs, but if it > crashed, you should be running a check on the FS. Um, no... The *entire point* of having a journaling filesystem is that after a crash or power loss, a journal

Re: shall distros run btrfsck on boot?

On Tue, Nov 24, 2015 at 12:02 PM, Christoph Anton Mitterer wrote: > Hey. > > Short question since that came up on debian-devel. > > Now that btrfs check get's more and more useful, are the developers > going to recommend running it periodically on boot (of course that >

Re: shall distros run btrfsck on boot?

On 11/23/15 10:35 PM, Duncan wrote: > Christoph Anton Mitterer posted on Tue, 24 Nov 2015 05:02:34 +0100 as > excerpted: > >> Hey. >> >> Short question since that came up on debian-devel. >> >> Now that btrfs check get's more and more useful, are the developers >> going to recommend running it

Re: shall distros run btrfsck on boot?

On Tue, 2015-11-24 at 04:35 +, Duncan wrote: > I'm a list regular and btrfs user, not a dev, but all the indications > continue to point to _not_ running it automatically at boot, nobody > even > _suggesting_ otherwise. Sure, I just asked because maybe that would have just been an

Re: shall distros run btrfsck on boot?

Christoph Anton Mitterer posted on Tue, 24 Nov 2015 05:02:34 +0100 as excerpted: > Hey. > > Short question since that came up on debian-devel. > > Now that btrfs check get's more and more useful, are the developers > going to recommend running it periodically on boot (of course that > wouldn't

Re: shall distros run btrfsck on boot?

Christoph Anton Mitterer wrote on 2015/11/24 05:43 +0100: On Tue, 2015-11-24 at 04:35 +, Duncan wrote: I'm a list regular and btrfs user, not a dev, but all the indications continue to point to _not_ running it automatically at boot, nobody even _suggesting_ otherwise. Sure, I just

Re: shall distros run btrfsck on boot?

Christoph Anton Mitterer posted on Tue, 24 Nov 2015 05:43:31 +0100 as excerpted: [Duncan wrote...] >> The btrfs kernel code itself detects and often >> corrects many problems, and btrfs check is simply not recommended for >> automatic at-boot scheduling -- if the kernel code can't fix it without

Re: shall distros run btrfsck on boot?

Duncan posted on Tue, 24 Nov 2015 06:46:18 + as excerpted: > That wouldn't be entirely uncommon, because as Eric mentions, btrfs > check is intended to be thorough, where the kernel mount-time check is > intended to be fast. > > But of course, as Eric also mentions, that's yet another reason

shall distros run btrfsck on boot?

Hey. Short question since that came up on debian-devel. Now that btrfs check get's more and more useful, are the developers going to recommend running it periodically on boot (of course that wouldn't work right now, as it would *always* check)? Plus... is btrfs check (without any arguments)