Re: [linux-dvb] [Em28xx] MPL-licensed V4L kernel modules (em2880)

2007-07-12 Thread Marcel Siegert
Markus Rechberger schrieb: For example you (first trying to help, afterwards doing nothing), * Manu Abraham (who has his project split from the maintree for a very long time too), its not really splitted, is it? imho it is just seperated by now as loads of changes are involved. from my

Re: [linux-dvb] [Em28xx] MPL-licensed V4L kernel modules (em2880)

2007-07-11 Thread Markus Rechberger
On 7/10/07, Trent Piepho [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Tue, 10 Jul 2007, Markus Rechberger wrote: Stop that MPL discussion, I can put that code offline too and update it with some probably nonfunctional code for several devices but it won't help anyone in the end - so I won't do it. I don't

Re: [linux-dvb] [Em28xx] MPL-licensed V4L kernel modules (em2880)

2007-07-11 Thread Johannes Stezenbach
On Wed, Jul 11, 2007, Markus Rechberger wrote: On 7/10/07, Trent Piepho [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Tue, 10 Jul 2007, Markus Rechberger wrote: Stop that MPL discussion, I can put that code offline too and update it with some probably nonfunctional code for several devices but it won't

Re: [linux-dvb] [Em28xx] MPL-licensed V4L kernel modules (em2880)

2007-07-11 Thread Markus Rechberger
I would appreciate if you could stop spamming the em28xx ML since I prefer to use it for relevant issues; Currently there are around 200 people registered most of them aren't interested in internal linuxtv issues. Try to resolve all existing relevant problems first (since there are a few other

Re: [linux-dvb] [Em28xx] MPL-licensed V4L kernel modules (em2880)

2007-07-11 Thread Marcel Siegert
forwarded to linuxdvb as i used my private not the list account :/ On Wednesday 11 July 2007, Markus Rechberger wrote: I would appreciate if you could stop spamming the em28xx ML since I prefer to use it for relevant issues; Currently there are around 200 people registered most of them aren't

Re: [linux-dvb] [Em28xx] MPL-licensed V4L kernel modules (em2880)

2007-07-11 Thread timecop
On 7/11/07, Marcel Siegert [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: forwarded to linuxdvb as i used my private not the list account :/ One more reason why this list should have reply-to set to linux-dvb, its a total pain in the ass to reply to all and then cut linux-dvb email from CC into To: and remove

Re: [linux-dvb] [Em28xx] MPL-licensed V4L kernel modules (em2880)

2007-07-11 Thread Alasdair Campbell
On 11/07/07, Markus Rechberger [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I would appreciate if you could stop spamming the em28xx ML since I prefer to use it for relevant issues; Currently there are around 200 people registered most of them aren't interested in internal linuxtv issues. As an outsider to this

Re: [linux-dvb] [Em28xx] MPL-licensed V4L kernel modules (em2880)

2007-07-11 Thread Markus Rechberger
On 7/11/07, Alasdair Campbell [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On 11/07/07, Markus Rechberger [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I would appreciate if you could stop spamming the em28xx ML since I prefer to use it for relevant issues; Currently there are around 200 people registered most of them aren't

Re: [linux-dvb] [Em28xx] MPL-licensed V4L kernel modules (em2880)

2007-07-11 Thread Johannes Stezenbach
On Wed, Jul 11, 2007 at 05:18:35PM +0200, Markus Rechberger wrote: Remember all that code could have been in the kernel for around 1 year without breaking any device if these few core people (and there are really only very few ones 5) wouldn't have tried to hit it down. This the bad linuxtv

Re: [linux-dvb] [Em28xx] MPL-licensed V4L kernel modules (em2880)

2007-07-11 Thread Markus Rechberger
On 7/11/07, Johannes Stezenbach [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Wed, Jul 11, 2007 at 05:18:35PM +0200, Markus Rechberger wrote: Remember all that code could have been in the kernel for around 1 year without breaking any device if these few core people (and there are really only very few ones

Re: [linux-dvb] [Em28xx] MPL-licensed V4L kernel modules (em2880)

2007-07-11 Thread Julian
Since this disscussion is public... I'm going to put in my 2 cents. If you actually read his posts - Like alot of end users are. Its the flames and personal attacks that are coming from the group mentality here (im sure theres a wiki that can explain that too) So if we are talking about

Re: [linux-dvb] [Em28xx] MPL-licensed V4L kernel modules (em2880)

2007-07-11 Thread Johannes Stezenbach
On Thu, Jul 12, 2007 at 03:49:30AM +1000, Julian wrote: Since this disscussion is public... I'm going to put in my 2 cents. If you actually read his posts - Like alot of end users are. Its the flames and personal attacks that are coming from the group mentality here (im sure theres a wiki

Re: [linux-dvb] [Em28xx] MPL-licensed V4L kernel modules (em2880)

2007-07-11 Thread hermann pitton
Am Donnerstag, den 12.07.2007, 00:37 +0200 schrieb Johannes Stezenbach: On Thu, Jul 12, 2007 at 03:49:30AM +1000, Julian wrote: Since this disscussion is public... I'm going to put in my 2 cents. If you actually read his posts - Like alot of end users are. Its the flames and personal

Re: [linux-dvb] [Em28xx] MPL-licensed V4L kernel modules (em2880)

2007-07-10 Thread Markus Rechberger
On 7/10/07, Jakob Petsovits [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Saturday, 7. July 2007, Markus Rechberger wrote: only my new sources are MPL licensed there; the v4l-dvb maincode is of course GPL. Even though it doesn't matter anymore the people who lead me to that step know how the code will get

Re: [linux-dvb] [Em28xx] MPL-licensed V4L kernel modules (em2880)

2007-07-10 Thread Marcel Siegert
On Tuesday 10 July 2007, Markus Rechberger wrote: On 7/10/07, Jakob Petsovits [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Saturday, 7. July 2007, Markus Rechberger wrote: only my new sources are MPL licensed there; the v4l-dvb maincode is of course GPL. Even though it doesn't matter anymore the people

Re: [linux-dvb] [Em28xx] MPL-licensed V4L kernel modules (em2880)

2007-07-10 Thread Markus Rechberger
On 7/10/07, Marcel Siegert [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Tuesday 10 July 2007, Markus Rechberger wrote: On 7/10/07, Jakob Petsovits [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Saturday, 7. July 2007, Markus Rechberger wrote: only my new sources are MPL licensed there; the v4l-dvb maincode is of course

Re: [linux-dvb] [Em28xx] MPL-licensed V4L kernel modules (em2880)

2007-07-10 Thread Christoph Pfister
Am Dienstag, 10. Juli 2007 12:08 schrieb Markus Rechberger: On 7/10/07, Marcel Siegert [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Tuesday 10 July 2007, Markus Rechberger wrote: On 7/10/07, Jakob Petsovits [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Saturday, 7. July 2007, Markus Rechberger wrote: only my new

Re: [linux-dvb] [Em28xx] MPL-licensed V4L kernel modules (em2880)

2007-07-10 Thread Markus Rechberger
On 7/10/07, Christoph Pfister [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Am Dienstag, 10. Juli 2007 12:08 schrieb Markus Rechberger: On 7/10/07, Marcel Siegert [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Tuesday 10 July 2007, Markus Rechberger wrote: On 7/10/07, Jakob Petsovits [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Saturday,

Re: [linux-dvb] [Em28xx] MPL-licensed V4L kernel modules (em2880)

2007-07-10 Thread Aidan Thornton
On 7/10/07, Markus Rechberger [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: em2880-dvb and xc3028-tuner are not derived from v4l code; em28xx is derived from GPL code but worthless without the other files. Also people can write whatever they want as long as they don't compile it and fact is that the code is still

Re: [linux-dvb] [Em28xx] MPL-licensed V4L kernel modules (em2880)

2007-07-10 Thread timecop
On 7/10/07, Aidan Thornton [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I noticed one thing, You sure seem to have plenty of time to argue about utterly irrelevant shit. But you couldn't spare 5 minutes of your life to agree on accepting this code a year ago. I think this is purely your loss at this point, just eat

Re: [linux-dvb] [Em28xx] MPL-licensed V4L kernel modules (em2880)

2007-07-10 Thread Markus Rechberger
On 7/10/07, Aidan Thornton [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On 7/10/07, Markus Rechberger [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: em2880-dvb and xc3028-tuner are not derived from v4l code; em28xx is derived from GPL code but worthless without the other files. Also people can write whatever they want as long as

Re: [linux-dvb] [Em28xx] MPL-licensed V4L kernel modules (em2880)

2007-07-10 Thread Christophe Thommeret
Le mardi 10 juillet 2007 13:17, Markus Rechberger a écrit : I'd appreciate if you could stop having useless discussions, a few linuxtv people proved it during the last year that they aren't capable of participating from the beginning on or helping at all to get forward, so I'd appreciate if

Re: [linux-dvb] [Em28xx] MPL-licensed V4L kernel modules (em2880)

2007-07-10 Thread greg
On Tue, 2007-07-10 at 20:55 +0900, timecop wrote: I noticed one thing, Damn guys, you (all) really need to learn how to quote.. You have lost me completely. Not only because you all sound like a bunch of fish wifes fresh out overdue herrings, but also because it's unclear who you are quoting.

Re: [linux-dvb] [Em28xx] MPL-licensed V4L kernel modules (em2880)

2007-07-10 Thread Christoph Pfister
2007/7/10, Markus Rechberger [EMAIL PROTECTED]: bigsnip em2880-dvb and xc3028-tuner are not derived from v4l code; em28xx is derived from GPL code but worthless without the other files. Maybe you should read what a derivative work is? And be aware that I didn't only mean linuxtv, but also all

Re: [linux-dvb] [Em28xx] MPL-licensed V4L kernel modules (em2880)

2007-07-10 Thread Markus Rechberger
On 7/10/07, Christoph Pfister [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: 2007/7/10, Markus Rechberger [EMAIL PROTECTED]: bigsnip em2880-dvb and xc3028-tuner are not derived from v4l code; em28xx is derived from GPL code but worthless without the other files. Maybe you should read what a derivative work is?

Re: [linux-dvb] [Em28xx] MPL-licensed V4L kernel modules (em2880)

2007-07-10 Thread Trent Piepho
On Tue, 10 Jul 2007, Markus Rechberger wrote: Stop that MPL discussion, I can put that code offline too and update it with some probably nonfunctional code for several devices but it won't help anyone in the end - so I won't do it. I don't want my work to be stolen by linuxtv people in the