Re: [Linux-HA] IP Clone

2012-08-21 Thread Dimitri Maziuk
On 08/21/2012 03:28 PM, Lang, David wrote: > Remember that I was responding to the statement that it was > impossible to have an IP address on two machines. Right. For those without a networking/sysprog major out there: it's certainly possible, no-one can stop you. Under normal circumstances arp

Re: [Linux-HA] IP Clone

2012-08-21 Thread Lang, David
it. David Lang From: linux-ha-boun...@lists.linux-ha.org [linux-ha-boun...@lists.linux-ha.org] on behalf of Dimitri Maziuk [dmaz...@bmrb.wisc.edu] Sent: Tuesday, August 21, 2012 10:05 AM To: linux-ha@lists.linux-ha.org Subject: Re: [Linux-HA] IP Clone On 08/20/2012 06:01

Re: [Linux-HA] IP Clone

2012-08-21 Thread David Lang
On Tue, 21 Aug 2012, Lars Marowsky-Bree wrote: > On 2012-08-21T13:16:29, David Lang wrote: > >> with ldirectord you have an extra network hop, and you have all your >> traffic going through one system. This is a scalability bottleneck as >> well as bing a separate system to configure. >> >> CLUST

Re: [Linux-HA] IP Clone

2012-08-21 Thread Lars Marowsky-Bree
On 2012-08-21T13:16:29, David Lang wrote: > with ldirectord you have an extra network hop, and you have all your > traffic going through one system. This is a scalability bottleneck as > well as bing a separate system to configure. > > CLUSTERIP isn't the solution to every problem, but it works

Re: [Linux-HA] IP Clone

2012-08-21 Thread David Lang
On Tue, 21 Aug 2012, Dimitri Maziuk wrote: > On 8/21/2012 2:28 AM, Lars Marowsky-Bree wrote: >> On 2012-08-21T00:22:00, Dimitri Maziuk wrote: >> >>> CLUSTERIP > ... >> Some customers want to do this for a simple load balancing solution that >> doesn't require additional load balancing hosts. It's

Re: [Linux-HA] IP Clone

2012-08-21 Thread Dimitri Maziuk
les. > -Original Message- > From: linux-ha-boun...@lists.linux-ha.org > [mailto:linux-ha-boun...@lists.linux-ha.org] On Behalf Of William Seligman > Sent: Tuesday, August 21, 2012 11:55 AM > To: General Linux-HA mailing list > Subject: Re: [Linux-HA] IP Clone ... > - I didn&#

Re: [Linux-HA] IP Clone

2012-08-21 Thread Yount, William D
Subject: Re: [Linux-HA] IP Clone On 8/20/12 6:54 PM, Yount, William D wrote: > No, no complaining. Just glad to get a definitive answer on it. Active/Active > made me think something that I guess isn't true. No worries. Honestly, thanks > for the reply. Without you, I would have k

Re: [Linux-HA] IP Clone

2012-08-21 Thread Dimitri Maziuk
On 08/20/2012 06:01 PM, David Lang wrote: > ANYCAST has severe limitations on what you can do with it, but CLUSTERIP is > far > more flexible and can work in just about any local active/active problem. Apples have severe limitations on the amount of orange juice you can squeeze out of them, but

Re: [Linux-HA] IP Clone

2012-08-21 Thread William Seligman
ing and trying. > > > > -Original Message- > From: linux-ha-boun...@lists.linux-ha.org > [mailto:linux-ha-boun...@lists.linux-ha.org] On Behalf Of Dimitri Maziuk > Sent: Monday, August 20, 2012 5:50 PM > To: linux-ha@lists.linux-ha.org > Subject: Re: [Linux-HA] IP Clone >

Re: [Linux-HA] IP Clone

2012-08-21 Thread David Lang
Dimitri Maziuk said: >On 08/20/2012 05:01 PM, Yount, William D wrote: >> I am trying to set up an Active/Active cluster. I have an >> Active/Passive cluster up and running. > > I don't remember seeing a clear explanation of when, where, and why > you'd actually want an active/active cluster. I nev

Re: [Linux-HA] IP Clone

2012-08-21 Thread David Lang
neral Linux-HA mailing list > Subject: Re: [Linux-HA] IP Clone > > No ideas? > > -Original Message- > From: linux-ha-boun...@lists.linux-ha.org > [mailto:linux-ha-boun...@lists.linux-ha.org] On Behalf Of Yount, William D > Sent: Thursday, August 16, 2012 9:09

Re: [Linux-HA] IP Clone

2012-08-21 Thread Dimitri Maziuk
On 8/21/2012 2:28 AM, Lars Marowsky-Bree wrote: > On 2012-08-21T00:22:00, Dimitri Maziuk wrote: > >> CLUSTERIP ... > Some customers want to do this for a simple load balancing solution that > doesn't require additional load balancing hosts. It's not the worst idea > for 2-3 nodes, especially with

Re: [Linux-HA] IP Clone

2012-08-21 Thread Lars Marowsky-Bree
On 2012-08-21T00:22:00, Dimitri Maziuk wrote: > CLUSTERIP which you presumably mean by "fun with iptables" is basically > "Jack gets all calls from even area codes and Jill: from odd area > codes". Yeah, you cold do that, I just can't imagine why. > > Because the commonly given rationale for a

Re: [Linux-HA] IP Clone

2012-08-20 Thread Andrew Beekhof
On Tue, Aug 21, 2012 at 3:22 PM, Dimitri Maziuk wrote: > On 8/20/2012 7:32 PM, Andrew Beekhof wrote: >> On Tue, Aug 21, 2012 at 8:49 AM, Dimitri Maziuk >> wrote: > >>> You are not allowed to run the IP address on two servers at once, full >>> stop. Complain to Rob Kahn and Vint Cerf. >> >> Thats

Re: [Linux-HA] IP Clone

2012-08-20 Thread Dimitri Maziuk
On 8/20/2012 7:32 PM, Andrew Beekhof wrote: > On Tue, Aug 21, 2012 at 8:49 AM, Dimitri Maziuk wrote: >> You are not allowed to run the IP address on two servers at once, full >> stop. Complain to Rob Kahn and Vint Cerf. > > Thats not strictly true. In the same way it's not strictly true that eve

Re: [Linux-HA] IP Clone

2012-08-20 Thread Andrew Beekhof
On Fri, Aug 17, 2012 at 12:09 PM, Yount, William D wrote: > I have two servers. I am using pacemaker/cman(corosync). I am trying to share > an IP address between them. I would like the IP address to run on both > servers at the same time. However, my testing has shown that the IP address > stay

Re: [Linux-HA] IP Clone

2012-08-20 Thread Andrew Beekhof
On Tue, Aug 21, 2012 at 8:49 AM, Dimitri Maziuk wrote: > On 08/20/2012 05:01 PM, Yount, William D wrote: >> I am trying to set up an Active/Active cluster. I have an > Active/Passive cluster up and running. > > I don't remember seeing a clear explanation of when, where, and why > you'd actually wa

Re: [Linux-HA] IP Clone

2012-08-20 Thread Yount, William D
linux-ha.org [mailto:linux-ha-boun...@lists.linux-ha.org] On Behalf Of Dimitri Maziuk Sent: Monday, August 20, 2012 5:50 PM To: linux-ha@lists.linux-ha.org Subject: Re: [Linux-HA] IP Clone On 08/20/2012 05:01 PM, Yount, William D wrote: > I am trying to set up an Active/Active cluster. I have a

Re: [Linux-HA] IP Clone

2012-08-20 Thread Dimitri Maziuk
On 08/20/2012 05:01 PM, Yount, William D wrote: > I am trying to set up an Active/Active cluster. I have an Active/Passive cluster up and running. I don't remember seeing a clear explanation of when, where, and why you'd actually want an active/active cluster. I never needed one myself, so can't r

Re: [Linux-HA] IP Clone

2012-08-20 Thread Yount, William D
From: linux-ha-boun...@lists.linux-ha.org [mailto:linux-ha-boun...@lists.linux-ha.org] On Behalf Of Dimitri Maziuk Sent: Monday, August 20, 2012 4:56 PM To: linux-ha@lists.linux-ha.org Subject: Re: [Linux-HA] IP Clone On 08/20/2012 04:19 PM, Yount, William D wrote: > No ideas? You lost me at &q

Re: [Linux-HA] IP Clone

2012-08-20 Thread Dimitri Maziuk
On 08/20/2012 04:19 PM, Yount, William D wrote: > No ideas? You lost me at "I would like the IP address to run on both servers at the same time" -- IME pacemaker not letting you do that is a feature. -- Dimitri Maziuk Programmer/sysadmin BioMagResBank, UW-Madison -- http://www.bmrb.wisc.edu s

Re: [Linux-HA] IP Clone

2012-08-20 Thread Yount, William D
No ideas? -Original Message- From: linux-ha-boun...@lists.linux-ha.org [mailto:linux-ha-boun...@lists.linux-ha.org] On Behalf Of Yount, William D Sent: Thursday, August 16, 2012 9:09 PM To: linux-ha@lists.linux-ha.org Subject: [Linux-HA] IP Clone I have two servers. I am using pacemaker

[Linux-HA] IP Clone

2012-08-16 Thread Yount, William D
I have two servers. I am using pacemaker/cman(corosync). I am trying to share an IP address between them. I would like the IP address to run on both servers at the same time. However, my testing has shown that the IP address stays locked onto Server2. If I put Server2 in standby, then the IP add