Re: IGLU & pc.co.il Linux events [ was Re: hebrew linux conference]

2003-12-09 Thread Orna Agmon
On Mon, 8 Dec 2003, Karasik, Vitaly wrote: > Last months there are many Linux events organized by > Ligad/Emet/Power/etc. and published in Daily Maily list. > >From the other side, there are many Linux lectures in Haifux, Telux; > free Linux seminars in IBM Haifa and more. > > > IMHO, someone from

Re: IGLU & pc.co.il Linux events [ was Re: hebrew linux conference]

2003-12-09 Thread Gabor Szabo
On Tue, 9 Dec 2003 08:46:26 +0200 (IST), Orna Agmon <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: There is a list of Linux events in Israel on iglu.org.il, where you just publish the events (as opposed to emailing them). I will be happy to add any Linux event in Israel that anyone knows of and does not appear there

Re: IGLU & pc.co.il Linux events [ was Re: hebrew linux conference]

2003-12-09 Thread Gabor Szabo
On Tue, 9 Dec 2003 08:46:26 +0200 (IST), Orna Agmon <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: There is a list of Linux events in Israel on iglu.org.il, where you just publish the events (as opposed to emailing them). I will be happy to add any Linux event in Israel that anyone knows of and does not appear there

Seeking a perl module

2003-12-09 Thread Shachar Shemesh
Hi all, I'm looking for a perl module that will allow me to disect email. The story is this: When submitting patches to wine, people send in their patches. People usually either inline their patch (i.e. - paste it into the email's body), where the mail client often line-wraps it, or attach it,

Re: Seeking a perl module

2003-12-09 Thread Shlomi Fish
Hi! I think Mime-tools: http://search.cpan.org/~eryq/MIME-tools-6.200_02/ should do anything you want. You might also want to look at the other modules in the Mail category (like Mail::Audit, Mail::Box, etc.) and the Email:: category. Regards, Shlomi Fish --

Re: Seeking a perl module

2003-12-09 Thread Dan Kenigsberg
Are you aware of MIME::Tools ? (available, for example in http://www.iglu.org.il/pub/CPAN/modules/by-module/MIME/MIME-tools-5.411a.tar.gz ) I did not *really* work with it. Few days ago I gave it a quick trial, and it seemed to be able to do what you are looking for. I abandoned it (for the mean

Re: Hebrew (was [KINDERGARDEN])

2003-12-09 Thread Micha Feigin
On Mon, Dec 08, 2003 at 01:30:24PM +0200, Iftach Hyams wrote: > >> any way can the mailing list system drop Hebrew writen mail > > ^^^ > >> or return them to the sender stating "no Hebrew allowed" ? > > It is a strange idea to prohibit Hebrew on Israeli mailing > list instead of helping peo

Re: Hebrew (was [KINDERGARDEN])

2003-12-09 Thread Ehud Karni
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On Tue, 9 Dec 2003 15:39:24 +0200, Micha Feigin <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > > It is a strange idea to prohibit Hebrew on Israeli mailing > > list instead of helping people configure their mail clients. > > > > I don't know how bidi-emacs is with H

Re: Hebrew (was [KINDERGARDEN])

2003-12-09 Thread Omer Zak
I have decided that it's time to take a few moments off my highly adult and serious life, and join the jovial pillow, mud and water slinging party in the KINDERGARDEN. On Tue, 9 Dec 2003, Micha Feigin wrote: > Assuming everyone is using a client that can be configured to read > Hebrew properly? >

Re: Article in Globes

2003-12-09 Thread Shaul Karl
On Mon, Dec 08, 2003 at 06:27:36PM -0200, Gabor Szabo wrote: > > I have not seen it mentioned here (maybe I wasn't looking ?) > > Open question > The government claims open-source software means a 60% saving. It doesn't > add up. > > Basically it sais that the TCO of Open Source is higher than

Re: Hebrew (was [KINDERGARDEN])

2003-12-09 Thread Aaron
> How about configuring people, who don't know Hebrew, but their E-mail > clients are already Hebrew-enabled, so that they can understand perfectly > Hebrew language messages? > --- Omer sounds painful Aaron ===

RE: Hebrew (was [KINDERGARDEN])

2003-12-09 Thread Arik Baratz
-Original Message- From: Aaron [aamehl at bezeqint dot net] > > How about configuring people, who don't know Hebrew, but their E-mail > > clients are already Hebrew-enabled, so that they can understand perfectly > > Hebrew language messages? > sounds painful A few weeks in a decent ULPAN

Re: Globes [online] - Open question

2003-12-09 Thread Dotan Mazor
You're being too polite. Your leeter should have been shorter: "Dear sir, your article is a shallow peace of propoganda, shadowed with loads of FUD..." But since we, as civilized people, must keep our tounge clean, I would give your letter 10/10 in all aspects. Actually, I wish I could be as ca

Re: Hebrew (was [KINDERGARDEN])

2003-12-09 Thread Dotan Mazor
Each time, the same answer is reached - Linux-IL is an English only list. Personally, I have used this fact to point people who speak little or no Hebrew at all to this list, and I know for a fact that so did other people as well. As always, Shachar has the right answer. Linux is an English Orie

Re: Hebrew (was [KINDERGARDEN])

2003-12-09 Thread Shachar Shemesh
Dotan Mazor wrote: Each time, the same answer is reached - Linux-IL is an English only list. Personally, I have used this fact to point people who speak little or no Hebrew at all to this list, and I know for a fact that so did other people as well. As always, Shachar has the right answer. Li

Re: Globes [online] - Open question

2003-12-09 Thread Shachar Shemesh
Dotan Mazor wrote: You're being too polite. Your leeter should have been shorter: "Dear sir, your article is a shallow peace of propoganda, shadowed with loads of FUD..." But since we, as civilized people, must keep our tounge clean, I would give your letter 10/10 in all aspects. Actually, I w

The Standard Institute of Israel

2003-12-09 Thread Gil Freund
Take a look at the left side of the home page: http://www.sii.org.il/siisite.nsf/HomePage?OpenForm and netcraft tells us: The site www.sii.org.il is running Lotus-Domino/0 on AS/400. Shiver Gil -- = Gil Freund Sysnet consulting --

Re: Hebrew (was [KINDERGARDEN])

2003-12-09 Thread Micha Feigin
On Tue, Dec 09, 2003 at 04:43:29PM +0200, Omer Zak wrote: > I have decided that it's time to take a few moments off my highly adult > and serious life, and join the jovial pillow, mud and water slinging party > in the KINDERGARDEN. > > On Tue, 9 Dec 2003, Micha Feigin wrote: > > > Assuming everyo

Re: Hebrew (was [KINDERGARDEN])

2003-12-09 Thread Tzafrir Cohen
On Tue, Dec 09, 2003 at 09:43:53PM +0200, Micha Feigin wrote: > That could be a very nice startup, although an ulpan will probably be a > better bet ;-) > Anyway, there is the additional problem that there is always the > occasional server/router (didn't bother with trying to figure out) that > ha

Re: The Standard Institute of Israel

2003-12-09 Thread Oleg Kobets
What did you expect, really ? Did you though they would run Linux with a message on their site saying: "Best viewed with Konqueror 3.0" ??? Naive. Btw, they do run UNIX (namely solaris) in there. Just not the for the web. - Original Message - From: "Gil Freund" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: <

Cable Internet, 012, and what's between it...

2003-12-09 Thread Dan Fruehauf
Recently (actually today) i acquired a broadband cable connection through the new (and pretty tempting) deal of AZTV and 012.net. i'm not going to promote their sales, but in short, you pay them, and they give you broadband internet access, in a low price. In order to make sure i could connect t

Re: The Standard Institute of Israel

2003-12-09 Thread Gil Freund
Well, only the fulfillment of Israeli Standards 1904, 1311, 4281 and 1489 as specified by comity 2109 :) Gil Oleg Kobets wrote: What did you expect, really ? Did you though they would run Linux with a message on their site saying: "Best viewed with Konqueror 3.0" ??? Naive. Btw, they do run UN

Re: Cable Internet, 012, and what's between it...

2003-12-09 Thread Aaron
> > My point is, that as members of this list, and linux users as well, beware of > the evil 012, and the way they treat linux users. Tomorrow i'll probably > disconnect from 012 and move to another ISP, Netvision Probably. (in short - > because they told me they can fix me a static ip and i w

Re: Cable Internet, 012, and what's between it...

2003-12-09 Thread Ez-Aton
You could use pptp dialer. Should work. You might consider checking http://www.iarc/org/~ezaton/cables and read a lecture I wrote there. The lecture (as well as the explenations) are relevant to Actcom, but you could find that by changing only a little bit, you can connect to any other ISP in Is

Re: Cable Internet, 012, and what's between it...

2003-12-09 Thread Alex Chudnovsky
> I use bezeqint, cause they let me horat keva, everyone else seems to use > credit cards only. Something new... I've succeeded to continue using horaat keva for around 6.5 years, my ISP being Netvision. > And it was a no brainer with linux, the price ain't so great though. > And cable is quicker

Re: Cable Internet, 012, and what's between it...

2003-12-09 Thread Shachar Shemesh
Dan Fruehauf wrote: Recently (actually today) i acquired a broadband cable connection through the new (and pretty tempting) deal of AZTV and 012.net. i'm not going to promote their sales, but in short, you pay them, and they give you broadband internet access, in a low price. In order to make s

Re: Cable Internet, 012, and what's between it...

2003-12-09 Thread Oded Arbel
On Tuesday 09 December 2003 23:07, Dan Fruehauf wrote: > Recently (actually today) i acquired a broadband cable connection through > the new (and pretty tempting) deal of AZTV and 012.net. > While writing this email, i didnt disconnect from 012, but i'm willing to, > mainly because one of the comm

Re: Cable Internet, 012, and what's between it...

2003-12-09 Thread Shaul Karl
On Tue, Dec 09, 2003 at 11:07:37PM +0200, Dan Fruehauf wrote: > > move to another ISP, Netvision Probably. (in short - > because they told me they can fix me a static ip and i wouldnt have to add > any $$). > I want to know if this is the case. I hope that I am not th

RE: Globes [online] - Open question

2003-12-09 Thread Yishay Mor
Dear Rob, Thanks for the pointer. Forking is indeed an interesting question. Having worked for Cisco, by no means an open source organization, I can witness that it is just as bad when development "is centralized within a firm and disciplined by market forces." As a matter of fact, I can think of

Re: The Standard Institute of Israel

2003-12-09 Thread Oleg Kobets
Plz elaborate what the silly numbers actually mean. I am not a walking ISO manual, u know :) - Original Message - From: "Gil Freund" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Cc: "My Own Private List" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Sent: Tuesday, December 09, 2003 11:15 PM Subject: Re: The Standard Institute of Israel

Re: Cable Internet, 012, and what's between it...

2003-12-09 Thread Geoffrey S. Mendelson
Dan Fruehauf wrote: > My point is, that as members of this list, and linux users as well, beware of > the evil 012, and the way they treat linux users. Tomorrow i'll probably > disconnect from 012 and move to another ISP, Netvision Probably. (in short - > because they told me they can fix me a s

Re: The Standard Institute of Israel

2003-12-09 Thread Gil Freund
Committee 2109 is the group of people in charge of the Hebrew standards in computing environment. The standard numbers are the ones relating to representation of Hebrew in web sites. One of the goals of the committee is also provide a standard for Hebrew in XML, SGML, DHTML and CSS. As far as I

Re: Article in Globes

2003-12-09 Thread Gil Freund
Thanks for you post. As for the forking issue, I would like to add a few notes of my own. I think the most famous fork in FOSS is BSD (NetBSD, FreeBSD, BSDi). I hardly think that BSD has lost any of it's merits due to this fork. At least three successful companies use a BSD derived OS for their p

RE: Cable Internet, 012, and what's between it...

2003-12-09 Thread Michael Sternberg
> -Original Message- > From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Behalf Of Dan Fruehauf > Sent: Tue, December 09, 2003 11:08 PM > To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > Subject: Cable Internet, 012, and what's between it... > ... > ... beware of the evil 012 ... > ... Strange. I'm connected to