Re: memory profiling

2004-11-18 Thread Nadav Har'El
On Fri, Nov 19, 2004, Muli Ben-Yehuda wrote about "Re: memory profiling": > On Thu, Nov 18, 2004 at 10:09:02PM +, Oleg Goldshmidt wrote: > > > A related question I don't know the answer to is how dynamic loading > > works on Linux - does it always load the whole library or just the > > part th

Letter "Tet" Missing (FC3) !

2004-11-18 Thread Aharon Schkolnik
Hi. I just upgraded to FC3, and tried to compose an email message using kontact. Everything seems to work fine, except that the letter "Tet" comes out as a blank. I just realized that it seems to happen only when I use the Nachlieli font. Could it be that that font got screwed up under FC3 ?

Re: memory profiling

2004-11-18 Thread Oleg Goldshmidt
guy keren <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > 1. memstat (not sure where i got it from, just happens to lie on my >/usr/local/bin) will show only the non-share-able memory used by >processes. Guy, Thanks for pointers. We'll definitely look at memusage and memstat[1]. I am mot sure this will

Re: [OFFTOPIC] Theoretical Israeli Tie

2004-11-18 Thread amos
Oleg Goldshmidt wrote: those interested in continuing the discussion, can it be moved to a different forum somehow? Would linked-in be suitable? ;-) time for linux-il-chat, at last. --Amos = To unsubscribe, send mail to [EMAIL PROTECTE

[OT] codeguru contest in Weismann institute 15/2/2005

2004-11-18 Thread amos
"Digital Survivor" contest. Nothing to do with Linux except maybe that it's about 8086 assembly programming, and the code is apparently open. http://codeguru.co.il/xtreme/about.htm --Amos = To unsubscribe, send mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED

Re: [OFFTOPIC] Theoretical Israeli Tie

2004-11-18 Thread Oleg Goldshmidt
The political and electoral systems of Israel and the US are undoubtedly very interesting topics. However, Linux-IL is hardly an appropriate place to discuss them at length. With all due respect to those interested in continuing the discussion, can it be moved to a different forum somehow? Would l

Re: [OFFTOPIC] Theoretical Israeli Tie

2004-11-18 Thread Uri Bruck
Omer Zak wrote: On Fri, 2004-11-19 at 00:13, William Sherwin wrote: So, please tell me, though this is off-topic: if elections were to be held in Israel in which two parties split the vote evenly - 60 Knesset seats for each - and the sides were unwilling to cooperate, how would the government be d

Re: memory profiling

2004-11-18 Thread guy keren
On Fri, 18 Nov 2004, Oleg Goldshmidt wrote: > > My turn to ask a question. I (and a few of my colleagues) am > interested in profiling the memory usage of a non-trivial application. [.. description snipped ..] lets see: 1. memstat (not sure where i got it from, just happens to lie on my /us

[OFFTOPIC] Theoretical Israeli Tie (was: RE: Electronic elections)

2004-11-18 Thread Omer Zak
On Fri, 2004-11-19 at 00:13, William Sherwin wrote: > So, please tell me, though this is off-topic: if elections were > to be held in Israel in which two parties split the vote evenly > - 60 Knesset seats for each - and the sides were unwilling to > cooperate, how would the government be determine

Re: memory profiling

2004-11-18 Thread Muli Ben-Yehuda
On Thu, Nov 18, 2004 at 10:09:02PM +, Oleg Goldshmidt wrote: > A related question I don't know the answer to is how dynamic loading > works on Linux - does it always load the whole library or just the > part that is needed for my application to run? Just the part that is needed. Specifically,

RE: Electronic elections

2004-11-18 Thread William Sherwin
Quite a bit earlier in the day (at least, in the U.S. EST; probably yesterday for those of you in Israel), the following text was sent, and I want to clarify what really happens in American elections: > Consider the Electorals method in the US. What > if it was a one vote difference. On a tie, the

memory profiling

2004-11-18 Thread Oleg Goldshmidt
Hi everybody, My turn to ask a question. I (and a few of my colleagues) am interested in profiling the memory usage of a non-trivial application. By "non-trivial application" I mean the following: * The app forks a number of new processes, possibly a few generations of processes (i.e. childre

RE: Electronic elections

2004-11-18 Thread Tzahi Fadida
Second that but with reservation. Dan Brown, while facts means nothing to him is a good thriller author so if you like second grade films, read his books. In defence of the book, Digital fortress has some nice action scenes though it also contains the fantasy of all electronic surveillance parano

Google and Firefox

2004-11-18 Thread Arik Baratz
I guess Google has Firefox fans http://www.google.com/firefox http://www.google.co.il/firefox -- Arik = To unsubscribe, send mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the word "unsubscribe" in the message body, e.g., run the command echo unsub

Reminder: "Welcome to Linux" Events in the Coming Week

2004-11-18 Thread Shlomi Fish
Hi all! This is a reminder for the upcoming Welcome to Linux (http://welcome.linux.org.il/) events. 21.11 - Next Sunday Tel Aviv - Development Tools by Shachar Shemesh 24.11 - Next Wednesday Haifa - Linux Day by the Haifux Members Jerusalem - Pre-Installation Lecture and on Distributions by B

RE: Electronic elections

2004-11-18 Thread Evgeny Pinchuk
Title: RE: Electronic elections For a vote, dude?! You'll have to do mass killing for mass vote forging. I don't see any logic in that. :P > -Original Message- > From: Honen, Oren [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] > Sent: Thursday, November 18, 2004 10:54 AM > To: Evgeny Pinchuk; Tzafrir C

RE: Electronic elections

2004-11-18 Thread Evgeny Pinchuk
Title: RE: Electronic elections How can you say that the word mass is not part of the elections. The winner of the elections is determined by mass. Regarding body damage, agreed. Regarding government conspiracies, that can be applied to any kind of identification. Evgeny > -Original

RE: Electronic elections

2004-11-18 Thread Rony Shapiro
Indeed, there's the matter of revocation: If someone steals my password (or private key, etc.), I can get a new one, with relatively little hassle. If someone manages to duplicate my biometric information, I'm in trouble... R. -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAI

RE: Electronic elections

2004-11-18 Thread Honen, Oren
Regarding the 'eye' issue, this is still a good pointer. It is well known that Mr. Brown is not a trusted scientific source. Oren. >-Original Message- >From: Tzafrir Cohen [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] > >Hi > >Please quote only relevant parts, BTW. > >On Thu, Nov 18, 2004 at 10:54:19AM +0200

Re: Electronic elections

2004-11-18 Thread amos
Tzafrir Cohen wrote: You should generally avoid referencing Dan Brown as an authorotive source. This guy is known for his bad research work. "Facts" from his books should be taken with more than a grain of salt. If he wrote that it works that still does not mean it works. I don't know this guy an

Re: Electronic elections

2004-11-18 Thread Tzafrir Cohen
Hi Please quote only relevant parts, BTW. On Thu, Nov 18, 2004 at 10:54:19AM +0200, Honen, Oren wrote: > On Wednesday, November 17, 2004 4:56 PM, Evgeny Pinchuk wrote: > > Even an eye?! What are you gonna do, poke someone's eye out? :P > > ( this is an implicit YES ) > > Please read "Angels a

RE: Electronic elections

2004-11-18 Thread Honen, Oren
Electronic elections surely separate the 2 issues: Voting identification & Voting management. Both issues are heavy and I read that different implementations do different staff. You may have elections with 0 identification ( e.g. כוכב נולד ) and sensitive remote voting with a small number of peo

RE: Electronic elections

2004-11-18 Thread Honen, Oren
Please do read, at least "The Da Vinci Code". More details in person as, again, this is way way OT for this mailing list. Oren. >-Original Message- >From: Oded Arbel [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] >Sent: Thursday, November 18, 2004 11:54 AM >To: Honen, Oren >Cc: Linux-IL mailing list >Subject

Re: Electronic elections

2004-11-18 Thread Herouth Maoz
Quoting Gilad Ben-Yossef <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>: > Evgeny Pinchuk wrote: > > Even an eye?! What are you gonna do, poke someone's eye out? :P I'm just wondering if I'm missing something obvious here: why should the identification process be part of the voting process? In the manual voting, the two ar

Re: Electronic elections

2004-11-18 Thread Oded Arbel
On Thursday 18 November 2004 10:54, Honen, Oren wrote: > Please read "Angels and Daemons" by Dan Brown ( Author of the "The Da > Vinci Code" ) Please don't read that. While not having read aforementioned book, I've read "Digital Fortress" which is supposed to deal with digital encryption and is

RE: Electronic elections

2004-11-18 Thread Honen, Oren
Title: RE: Electronic elections The word ‘mass’ is not part of elections. Consider the Electorals method in the US. What if it was a one vote difference. On a tie, the chairmen of Congress becomes the president as far as I know ( and it actually doesn’t matter for this debate ). Now consid

Re: Electronic elections

2004-11-18 Thread Gilad Ben-Yossef
Evgeny Pinchuk wrote: Even an eye?! What are you gonna do, poke someone's eye out? :P No, just take a very good photo of it. There are a lot of biometeric insecurity systems that can be easily tricked by "second hand" images of the items that they track. Gilad -- Gilad Ben-Yossef <[EMAIL PROTEC

RE: Electronic elections

2004-11-18 Thread Honen, Oren
Title: RE: Electronic elections Please read “Angels and Daemons” by Dan Brown ( Author of the “The Da Vinci Code” )   ( this is an implicit YES )   From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Evgeny Pinchuk Sent: Wednesday, November 17, 2004 4:56 PM To: Tza

RE: Electronic elections

2004-11-18 Thread Evgeny Pinchuk
Title: RE: Electronic elections Even an eye?! What are you gonna do, poke someone's eye out? :P Evgeny > -Original Message- > From: Tzafrir Cohen [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] > Sent: Wednesday, November 17, 2004 4:53 PM > To: Evgeny Pinchuk > Cc: Linux-IL mailing list > Subject: Re: