Re: SCO & Linux License

2005-10-07 Thread Man Gregory
Uri Even-Chen wrote: > Dear list, > > I was surprised to read about SCO's "Linux License", and I decided to > search on Google. I search for linux license and got 10 websites - 8 of > them have the word SCO in the title (and all the first 5). At least the > 2 first websites are of SCO itself. H

SCO & Linux License

2005-10-07 Thread Uri Even-Chen
Dear list, I was surprised to read about SCO's "Linux License", and I decided to search on Google. I search for linux license and got 10 websites - 8 of them have the word SCO in the title (and all the first 5). At least the 2 first websites are of SCO itself. Here they are for your reference:

Re: Why most people prefer Windows

2005-10-07 Thread Amos Shapira
On 10/3/05, Oded Shimon <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > quite a while without knowing it. it was fine for about a month, till at And all this time without even installing the Firefox IE theme? Wow. Good for you! --Amos To unsubscribe,

Re: Why most people prefer Windows

2005-10-07 Thread Amos Shapira
On 10/8/05, Uri Even-Chen <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Ilya Konstantinov wrote: > > If software freedom is meaningless to you, 95% of the time non-free > > software gives you higher value (assuming you have the money :) > > I think that's why most people prefer Windows, MS Office and other > non-fr

Re: Why most people prefer Windows

2005-10-07 Thread Amos Shapira
On 10/8/05, Ilya Konstantinov <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > On ה', 2005-10-06 at 21:09 +1000, Amos Shapira wrote: > > Which just gave me an idea for the OO people - taking a page > > out of Firefox' book > > Which page? If you're referring to IE View, you're talking about the No, I was reffering to

Re: Why most people prefer Windows

2005-10-07 Thread Uri Even-Chen
Oded Shimon wrote: It's much much more than that. People are scared of change, they are scared and revoke anything that is different than the "norm", you could make a PERFECT windows clone in KDE somehow, and let people use that, telling em it's windows and they'd be happy, give them the exact

Re: Why most people prefer Windows

2005-10-07 Thread Uri Even-Chen
Ilya Konstantinov wrote: If software freedom is meaningless to you, 95% of the time non-free software gives you higher value (assuming you have the money :) I think that's why most people prefer Windows, MS Office and other non-free softwares. Most people don't care about software freedom, the

Experience of upgrade from Debian Sarge (stable) to Debian Etch (testing)

2005-10-07 Thread Omer Zak
Today I upgraded my laptop from Debian Sarge to Debian Etch. After editing the /etc/apt/sources.list file, I used: apt-get update apt-get dist-upgrade And then I ran few upgrade rounds through aptitude. I encountered the following problems: 1. The udev package could not be upgraded, because t

Re: Why most people prefer Windows

2005-10-07 Thread Oded Shimon
On Mon, Oct 03, 2005 at 10:56:25AM +0200, Anatoly Vorobey wrote: > On Sun, Oct 02, 2005 at 10:05:56PM +0300, Uri Even-Chen wrote: > > using some version of Windows. I wonder how come most people & > > companies prefer Windows - is it because they're already used to it, or > > because they're afrai

Re: [OFFTOPIC] resume translate

2005-10-07 Thread Man Gregory
Muli Ben-Yehuda wrote: > On Fri, Oct 07, 2005 at 07:54:28AM +0300, Ira Abramov wrote: > > >>The advice I gave Gregory though (off list) is to let the placement >>agency translate and edit it for him. It's their job, damnit! > > > Holy freaking cow, are you seriously suggesting to let the placem

Fwd: regarding EV1 and SCO

2005-10-07 Thread Hetz Ben Hamo
And after a bit "pushing" - I got this: -- Forwarded message -- From: 01 - Headsurfer <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Date: Oct 7, 2005 5:24 PM Subject: RE: regarding EV1 and SCO To: Hetz Ben Hamo <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> There are no license issues between EV1 and SCO. However, as I said, you ar

Fwd: regarding EV1 and SCO

2005-10-07 Thread Hetz Ben Hamo
Here's the mail. their AUP and TOS don't mention any SCO btw. Thanks, Hetz -- Forwarded message -- From: 01 - Headsurfer <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Date: Oct 7, 2005 5:15 PM Subject: RE: regarding EV1 and SCO To: Hetz Ben Hamo <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Hello Hetz Ben Hamo, There is not real

Re: Why most people prefer Windows

2005-10-07 Thread Ilya Konstantinov
On ה', 2005-10-06 at 21:09 +1000, Amos Shapira wrote: > On 10/6/05, Uri Even-Chen <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > OK, but we can't actually use the standard as long as the majority of > > people can't read it. And they can't read it because they use MS > > Office. You can't send a non-MS-Office-co

Re: EV1 and SCO (was: Re: VSEERVER (was: Re: Web Hosting Recommendation))

2005-10-07 Thread Hetz Ben Hamo
I asked for a formal note from EV1. As soon as it hits my email box, I'll publish it here. Thanks, Hetz On 10/7/05, Omer Zak <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > On Fri, 2005-10-07 at 14:36 +0200, Hetz Ben Hamo wrote: > > Well, allow me to update you :) > > > > They made a mistake (actually their CEO did

Re: Web Hosting Recommendation

2005-10-07 Thread Lior Kesos
I have 2 of their 5$ accounts and have shell access for both domains.(which both lead to my user on the hositng machine - give you a homey(~) feeling ... On 10/7/05, Tzafrir Cohen <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > On Thu, Oct 06, 2005 at 11:14:08AM +0200, Michael Sternberg wrote: > > > > >-Original

Re: VSEERVER (was: Re: Web Hosting Recommendation)

2005-10-07 Thread Hetz Ben Hamo
Hi, > They bought SCOSource licenses for their Linux systems. That license > allows them to only use certain "blessed" versions of the Linux kernel > (binary only). Quite a severe limitation, IMHO. And they cancelled the license deal with SCO. The press seems to "forget" to publish such small thi

Re: EV1 and SCO (was: Re: VSEERVER (was: Re: Web Hosting Recommendation))

2005-10-07 Thread Omer Zak
On Fri, 2005-10-07 at 14:36 +0200, Hetz Ben Hamo wrote: > Well, allow me to update you :) > > They made a mistake (actually their CEO did), and they appologized > publically and cancelled all the licensing issues with SCO - so the > story ends.. Sounds too good to be true. Do you have a citation

Re: EV1 and SCO (was: Re: VSEERVER (was: Re: Web Hosting Recommendation))

2005-10-07 Thread Hetz Ben Hamo
Well, allow me to update you :) They made a mistake (actually their CEO did), and they appologized publically and cancelled all the licensing issues with SCO - so the story ends.. You CAN install anything you like in those machines. Just for the fun I switched the machine I had there from RHEL 3

Re: [OFFTOPIC] resume translate

2005-10-07 Thread Muli Ben-Yehuda
On Fri, Oct 07, 2005 at 07:54:28AM +0300, Ira Abramov wrote: > The advice I gave Gregory though (off list) is to let the placement > agency translate and edit it for him. It's their job, damnit! Holy freaking cow, are you seriously suggesting to let the placement agency *edit* one's resume?! ther

Re: VSEERVER

2005-10-07 Thread Danny Lieberman
Hetz rackspace pricing is obscene, BUT, their service is at a completely different level - I have 2 clients using rackspace and all I can say is you get what you pay for. Their packages are NOT for small business, not unless the small business can fork out $700/month for a dedicated server, but

Re: VSEERVER (was: Re: Web Hosting Recommendation)

2005-10-07 Thread Tzafrir Cohen
On Fri, Oct 07, 2005 at 12:38:11PM +0200, Hetz Ben Hamo wrote: > Some managers are fools. I've been working with quite few stupid > managers in various jobs and places :) > > Does this means EV1 service is bad? does this means any other > problems? I don't think so. > > Their management goofed. H

Re: [OFFTOPIC] resume translate

2005-10-07 Thread guy keren
On Fri, 7 Oct 2005, Ira Abramov wrote: > Quoting Amos Shapira, from the post of Fri, 07 Oct: > > First advise I got from all job agencies I worked with when looking for > > jobs is "Make it in Hebrew". > > I think this is the main issue that seperates your advide from those > posted before - Plac

EV1 and SCO (was: Re: VSEERVER (was: Re: Web Hosting Recommendation))

2005-10-07 Thread Omer Zak
The important issue is the terms of the SCO Linux "license" which EV1 bought. AFAIK, the terms of the SCO Linux "license" (which become binding once the document is signed and becomes a contract from legal point of view) are such that EV1 are permitted to use only a certain binary-only version of

Re: VSEERVER (was: Re: Web Hosting Recommendation)

2005-10-07 Thread Tzafrir Cohen
On Fri, Oct 07, 2005 at 02:48:07AM +0200, Hetz Ben Hamo wrote: [ regarding security ] > With some other web hosting + shell - you are really totally depend on > his security measures, and I have been an employee of some of the well > known ISP's in this country who's their security skills and > i

Re: VSEERVER (was: Re: Web Hosting Recommendation)

2005-10-07 Thread Hetz Ben Hamo
Some managers are fools. I've been working with quite few stupid managers in various jobs and places :) Does this means EV1 service is bad? does this means any other problems? I don't think so. Their management goofed. Happened with almost ANY management in the world (specially when you treat PR

Re: Web Hosting Recommendation

2005-10-07 Thread Tzafrir Cohen
On Thu, Oct 06, 2005 at 11:14:08AM +0200, Michael Sternberg wrote: > > >-Original Message- > >From: Lior Kesos > > > >I've reccommended http://www.rotmax.com in the past and I'm > >still happy with their service - it's a mediuim size hosting > >operation. > >I've been hosting there for the

Re: VSEERVER (was: Re: Web Hosting Recommendation)

2005-10-07 Thread Oron Peled
On Friday, 7 בOctober 2005 12:18, Hetz Ben Hamo wrote: > I found that EV1 are much cheaper, Just a reminder: These were the people that jumped on the SCO bandwagon and bought SCO "licenses" to use Linux: http://www.groklaw.net/article.php?story=20040322133607169 The market has enough alternativ

Re: VSEERVER (was: Re: Web Hosting Recommendation)

2005-10-07 Thread Hetz Ben Hamo
rackspace prices are nightmare! specially when it comes to private people or very small businesses.. I found that EV1 are much cheaper, and their connection to the world is great (you can find some MRTG graphs there regarding their connection). Hetz On 10/7/05, Danny Lieberman <[EMAIL PROTECTED]

Re: VSEERVER (was: Re: Web Hosting Recommendation)

2005-10-07 Thread Danny Lieberman
Guys We host software.co.il at http://www.johncompanies.com/ - they are good, performance is fast, they are FOSS-friendly, i.e. give discounts if you host an OSS project. For an economy-virtual server, imho, they cannot be beat. OTOH, if you need the real thing, there is nothing like racks