Re: Monthly waste of time :-) Has anyone been able to buy a Digital TV USB stick in Israel and get it to work under Linux?

2010-08-26 Thread Oron Peled
On Wednesday, 25 בAugust 2010 23:39:43 geoffrey mendelson wrote: As far as I know the manufacturer of the box has to publish the code, not the OEM or importer, who just sticks their name on it.If they have a site in China in Chinese, with no other languages, with the code available for

Re: Monthly waste of time :-) Has anyone been able to buy a Digital TV USB stick in Israel and get it to work under Linux?

2010-08-26 Thread geoffrey mendelson
On Aug 26, 2010, at 1:23 PM, Oron Peled wrote: Now try to convince a judge that publishing in some manufacturer's web-site is equivalent to this. That's an interesting point. What exactly would you sue for? In Israel you can only claim damages equal to the amount you were

Re: Monthly waste of time :-) Has anyone been able to buy a Digital TV USB stick in Israel and get it to work under Linux?

2010-08-26 Thread Shachar Shemesh
geoffrey mendelson wrote: That's an interesting point. What exactly would you sue for? You revoke their license. In Israel you can only claim damages equal to the amount you were actually damaged. Not only that, but buying an infringing work is not illegal in Israel. I'm fairly sure that is

Re: Monthly waste of time :-) Has anyone been able to buy a Digital TV USB stick in Israel and get it to work under Linux?

2010-08-26 Thread Oron Peled
On Thursday, 26 בAugust 2010 13:52:23 geoffrey mendelson wrote: On Aug 26, 2010, at 1:23 PM, Oron Peled wrote: Now try to convince a judge that publishing in some manufacturer's web-site is equivalent to this. That's an interesting point. What exactly would you sue for?

Re: Monthly waste of time :-) Has anyone been able to buy a Digital TV USB stick in Israel and get it to work under Linux?

2010-08-26 Thread Dov Grobgeld
Note that you can only sue for infringement of works that you own the copyright for, or if the owner of the work has agreed that you can sue on her behalf. I.e. before trying to sue someone you have find someone with copyright who is willing to claim that his right have been violated. Regards,

Re: Monthly waste of time :-) Has anyone been able to buy a Digital TV USB stick in Israel and get it to work under Linux?

2010-08-26 Thread Shachar Shemesh
Dov Grobgeld wrote: Note that you can only sue for infringement of works that you own the copyright for, or if the owner of the work has agreed that you can sue on her behalf. I.e. before trying to sue someone you have find someone with copyright who is willing to claim that his right have

Re: Monthly waste of time :-) Has anyone been able to buy a Digital TV USB stick in Israel and get it to work under Linux?

2010-08-26 Thread Shachar Shemesh
Oron Peled wrote: IANAL, but AFAIK English is one of Israel's official languages. In this you are, to the best of my knowledge, wrong. Only Hebrew and Arabic are official languages. Then again, the only official GPL language is English, and Israeli courts acknowledge, for example,

Re: Monthly waste of time :-) Has anyone been able to buy a Digital TV USB stick in Israel and get it to work under Linux?

2010-08-26 Thread Tzafrir Cohen
On Wed, Aug 25, 2010 at 11:39:43PM +0300, geoffrey mendelson wrote: On Aug 25, 2010, at 11:18 PM, Geoff Shang wrote: On Wed, 25 Aug 2010, Lior Kaplan wrote: http://www.doom.co.il/blog/?p=333 Any chance of a quick executive summary for us Hebrew impaired? I had to use google translate,

Re: Monthly waste of time :-) Has anyone been able to buy a Digital TV USB stick in Israel and get it to work under Linux?

2010-08-26 Thread Tzafrir Cohen
On Thu, Aug 26, 2010 at 01:52:23PM +0300, geoffrey mendelson wrote: That's an interesting point. What exactly would you sue for? In Israel you can only claim damages equal to the amount you were actually damaged. Not only that, but buying an infringing work is not illegal in Israel. So

Re: Monthly waste of time :-) Has anyone been able to buy a Digital TV USB stick in Israel and get it to work under Linux?

2010-08-26 Thread geoffrey mendelson
On Aug 26, 2010, at 5:21 PM, Tzafrir Cohen wrote: I was referring to computer software in specific. So I suspect if one web site published a story in a freely available, and another website accidentally copied it, no harm was done, and thus no need to pay anybody. That exact argument,