On Sun, Aug 15, 2010, Omer Zak wrote about You develop in Linux and are
looking for work, and are requested to provide CV as a .doc file - what would
you do?:
Some of those companies (both placement and project subcontract work
outfits) look for a Linux software developer AND expect you to
From my experience with HR companies and looking for jobs, it is not true
that anything readable equals doc for them. Very often will the HR company
forward an anonymized version of the CV to the company, and only after the
company show the interest (and pay money?) will they give the remaining
For some people who don't know better .doc or word format is a catch-all
phrase meaning something I can read on my PC. If you send them a PDF file
(for example) and it just opens when they click it, they wouldn't know it
isn't
a .doc file ;-)
But some other people insist on a doc file
On Mon, Aug 16, 2010 at 03:49:02AM +0300, Omer Zak wrote:
On Mon, 2010-08-16 at 00:40 +0300, Hetz Ben Hamo wrote:
(Open Office can convert your CV to this format)
Turns out that oowriter 2.4.1 (Debian Lenny) does not have this feature
(at least without installing an unknown extra package).
On Mon, 2010-08-16 at 08:03 +, Tzafrir Cohen wrote:
On Mon, Aug 16, 2010 at 03:49:02AM +0300, Omer Zak wrote:
On Mon, 2010-08-16 at 00:40 +0300, Hetz Ben Hamo wrote:
(Open Office can convert your CV to this format)
Turns out that oowriter 2.4.1 (Debian Lenny) does not have this
On Sunday 15 August 2010 23:28:44 Omer Zak wrote:
I am now looking for work, and am undergoing the usual drill of sending
E-mail messages in response to job/project ads and referrals.
My mode of operation is to E-mail the URL to my CV in my Website. Light
and sweet E-mail and the
On 16 August 2010 17:41, Oleg Goldshmidt p...@goldshmidt.org wrote:
My CV is written in LaTeX as well. I convert it to HTML using
latex2html and do some relatively minor manual tweaks to the result. I
go through this effort specifically for people who do not have a PDF
reader.
All this effort
On Mon, Aug 16, 2010, Amos Shapira wrote about Re: You develop in Linux and
are looking for work, and are requested to provide CV as a .doc file - what
would you do?:
On 16 August 2010 17:41, Oleg Goldshmidt p...@goldshmidt.org wrote:
My CV is written in LaTeX as well. I convert it to HTML
On Mon, Aug 16, 2010 at 08:06:54PM +1000, Amos Shapira wrote:
On 16 August 2010 17:41, Oleg Goldshmidt p...@goldshmidt.org wrote:
My CV is written in LaTeX as well. I convert it to HTML using
latex2html and do some relatively minor manual tweaks to the
result. I go through this effort
On Aug 16, 2010, at 1:24 PM, Nadav Har'El wrote:
Some of us have CVs that started before OpenOffice, nee Star Office,
was
even conceived :-)
As they say, if it ain't broken, don't fix it...
Yea, but I long ago lost the punched cards and paper tape. I think the
earliest surviving one
On Mon, Aug 16, 2010 at 1:06 PM, Amos Shapira amos.shap...@gmail.com wrote:
On 16 August 2010 17:41, Oleg Goldshmidt p...@goldshmidt.org wrote:
My CV is written in LaTeX as well. I convert it to HTML using
latex2html and do some relatively minor manual tweaks to the result. I
go through this
On 16 August 2010 20:38, Oleg Goldshmidt p...@goldshmidt.org wrote:
No one has ever asked, but the answer would be, much less than
maintaining a structured document in an office suite - any office
suite - and with a MUCH better end result.
Hint: the computer does all the presentational side
My CV is in Cuneiform on stone tablets. If anyone is serious about hiring
me, they should take the effort to decipher it! ;-)
Cheers,
Dov
On Mon, Aug 16, 2010 at 13:32, geoffrey mendelson
geoffreymendel...@gmail.com wrote:
On Aug 16, 2010, at 1:24 PM, Nadav Har'El wrote:
Some of us have
On 16/08/2010 12:38, Oleg Goldshmidt wrote:
On Mon, Aug 16, 2010 at 1:06 PM, Amos Shapiraamos.shap...@gmail.com wrote:
On 16 August 2010 17:41, Oleg Goldshmidtp...@goldshmidt.org wrote:
My CV is written in LaTeX as well. I convert it to HTML using
latex2html and do some relatively minor
On Monday, August 16, 2010 14:01:37 Dov Grobgeld wrote:
My CV is in Cuneiform on stone tablets. If anyone is serious about hiring
me, they should take the effort to decipher it! ;-)
Cuneiform on stone tablets is for mobility geeks !
You are invited to my cave where you can review my CV drawing
And I presume you edit your CV at least once a week.
In a market where there the employers can pick, you want to play by the
rule. Where you, as an employee can pick, they, mostly, will play by your
rules.
When you're out looking for a job, your rules are dictated by those who
hire. When you are
Before I started my dealings with computers, I used to work in
chemistry.
My CV from that era consists of a dinosaur bone arrangement - I killed
them and rearranged their bones to convey the message.
If you wanted to employ me at that time, you'd be supposed to excavate
the bones and read them.
I'm sure you will gain a lot of credibility by telling the (cute?) HR rep:
Would you like to come to my cave to have a look at my CV?.
Dov (ducking for the forthcoming suggestions that this thread better be
dropped...)
On Mon, Aug 16, 2010 at 14:56, Dotan Shavit do...@shavitos.com wrote:
On
On Mon, Aug 16, 2010 at 03:10:08PM +0300, Etzion Bar-Noy wrote:
And I presume you edit your CV at least once a week.
According to the hg log, 31 times in the last 29 months, so let's call
it once a month on average.
Cheers,
Muli
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But it also sounds like 99% of the audience want DOC files
Depends on your audience.
There are two kinds of placement agencies / headhunters / employers.
One is volume-oriented. They have a pool of 4500 candidates with a set
of keywords in their CVs, and a pool of 2000 positions descriptions
On 17 August 2010 01:17, Oleg Goldshmidt p...@goldshmidt.org wrote:
I'd say one needs to figure out whether one should target
volume-oriented or hand-picking outfits, and act accordingly.
Good on yah. Thanks for giving me your perspective.
and it's a
lot of effort to maintain that format
On Mon, Aug 16, 2010 at 6:52 PM, Amos Shapira amos.shap...@gmail.com wrote:
Personally, I fit my CV (and write a cover letter) for every job I apply for.
You have a specific model, or use case, in mind. The model is active:
see an ad - apply for a job.
To me a more important use case is making
I am now looking for work, and am undergoing the usual drill of sending
E-mail messages in response to job/project ads and referrals.
My mode of operation is to E-mail the URL to my CV in my Website. Light
and sweet E-mail and the receipient's E-mail client has the convenient
affordance of
At 23:28:44 on Sunday Sunday 15 August 2010, Omer Zak w...@zak.co.il
wrote:
I am now looking for work, and am undergoing the usual drill of sending
E-mail messages in response to job/project ads and referrals.
My mode of operation is to E-mail the URL to my CV in my Website.
Light and sweet
Omer Zak w...@zak.co.il writes:
Some of those companies (both placement and project subcontract work
outfits) look for a Linux software developer AND expect you to E-mail
them a MS-Word .doc file.
Don't argue, that will not earn you any points. Provide an HTML
version of the CV on a website
Why? Can't your OpenOffice create doc files?
It you are to make a war about it, fine, but you might miss some of the
better jobs because the subcontractor's HR are not technical people, and if
your CV is a little more difficult to open in their own software or
whatever, your loss. Next.
If you do
On Sun, Aug 15, 2010 at 11:28 PM, Omer Zak w...@zak.co.il wrote:
If YOU were looking for work now, how would YOU deal with such
companies?
OpenOffice can save its files in .doc format. Of course, the alignment won't
be perfect, so I say:
I use open products and prefer not to expense $1K for
I would suggest a simple thing, and it's pretty simple, considered that
you're a programmer :)
Build a simple web site for yourself, that will have an input field where
you'll put an email address, and a drop down menu for various cover
letters.
Anyone you want to send an email to, go to this
On Mon, 2010-08-16 at 00:13 +0300, Etzion Bar-Noy wrote:
Why? Can't your OpenOffice create doc files?
Actually, whenever I am due to send a .doc file, I send a .rtf, figuring
that it is a more reliable way to preserve the document styling.
It you are to make a war about it, fine, but you might
On Mon, 2010-08-16 at 00:05 +0300, Diego Iastrubni wrote:
On יום ראשון 15 אוגוסט 2010 23:28:44 Omer Zak wrote:
Some of those companies (both placement and project subcontract work
outfits) look for a Linux software developer AND expect you to E-mail
them a MS-Word .doc file.
The problem
On Mon, Aug 16, 2010 at 12:44 AM, Omer Zak w...@zak.co.il wrote:
On Mon, 2010-08-16 at 00:13 +0300, Etzion Bar-Noy wrote:
Why? Can't your OpenOffice create doc files?
Actually, whenever I am due to send a .doc file, I send a .rtf, figuring
that it is a more reliable way to preserve the
On Mon, 2010-08-16 at 00:40 +0300, Hetz Ben Hamo wrote:
(Open Office can convert your CV to this format)
Turns out that oowriter 2.4.1 (Debian Lenny) does not have this feature
(at least without installing an unknown extra package).
However, I found that
Hi Omer,
I'm currently also looking for a job.
Usually I send my CV in html format. Then some of the recipients ask me for
DOC file. So then I send the OO Doc CV.
When I go to interview I see that the HTML CV is appearing inline in the
message. I see that from their printed CV they bring to the
On Mon, Aug 16, 2010 at 12:44 AM, Omer Zak w...@zak.co.il wrote:
Are you positive that good work (i.e. no WTF stuff, project manager with
a clue, high caliber co-workers, good technical challenge, adequate
opportunity for professional development, you name it) can hide behind
HR which
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