Re: Availability of kdb

2000-09-10 Thread Andrew Morton
Michael Elizabeth Chastain wrote: > > Rather than discussing what he's said, I ask: OK, if an integrated kernel > debugger is inimical to developing more gurus, what contributions would > Linus welcome? > > More documentation, so that more people can understand more deeply? > > Cleanup

Re: How to put something in /proc

2000-09-10 Thread Alexander Viro
On Sun, 10 Sep 2000, Davide Libenzi wrote: > On Sun, 10 Sep 2000, Giuliano Pochini wrote: > > I need to create a "file" in /proc to monitor some kernel > > variables from user space. How can I do ? / Where can I > > get docs ? And how can I do time measurements from > > inside the kernel ? >

Re: OFF TOPIC - email solution required

2000-09-10 Thread Davide Libenzi
On Sun, 10 Sep 2000, richard wrote: > I am currnetly using Redhat Linux 6.2, and am having serious difficulty > finding the "right" email tools, and as this list is often times huge, > and is also linux based, I figured some of you might be using that > tool, i have not found. > > here are some

Re: How to put something in /proc

2000-09-10 Thread Davide Libenzi
On Sun, 10 Sep 2000, Giuliano Pochini wrote: > I need to create a "file" in /proc to monitor some kernel > variables from user space. How can I do ? / Where can I > get docs ? And how can I do time measurements from > inside the kernel ? Search for proc_register() inside the kernel sources. I

Re: Availability of kdb

2000-09-10 Thread Michael Elizabeth Chastain
OK, I give in, I'll post some opinions in this advocacy-like thread. One of the original connotations of "hacker" was someone who made furniture with an axe. There is a difference between a debugger and a compiler. A compiler never substitutes for understanding. In fact, I gain more

Re: Availability of kdb

2000-09-10 Thread John Alvord
On Sun, 10 Sep 2000 00:23:43 -0700, "J. Dow" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: >From: "Stephen E. Clark" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > >> Linus Torvalds wrote: >> > >> > On Sat, 9 Sep 2000, Oliver Xymoron wrote: >> > > >> > > Tools are tools. They don't make better code. They make better code easier >> > > if

Re: Whining about MIME formatted email

2000-09-10 Thread Richard Gooch
Alexander Viro writes: > MIME may help to work around the b0rken MTAs that are not 8-bit > clean, but that's about it. It is nothing but a glamorized tarball. MIME and glamour are like oil and water. Regards, Richard

Re: Availability of kdb

2000-09-10 Thread J. Dow
From: "Stephen E. Clark" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > Linus Torvalds wrote: > > > > On Sat, 9 Sep 2000, Oliver Xymoron wrote: > > > > > > Tools are tools. They don't make better code. They make better code easier > > > if used properly. > > > > I think you missed the point of my original reply

Re: ECN configuration not working

2000-09-10 Thread Linux Now
On Sat, 9 Sep 2000, David S. Miller wrote: >Date: Sat, 9 Sep 2000 20:22:41 +0200 (CEST) >From: Linux Now <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > >If you just unset it in .config and echo 0 > >/proc/sys/net/ipv4/tcp_ecn, it just acts as if it was enabled. > > If you unset it in .config there

Re: Oops on boot with both 2.2.17 and 2.4.0t8p6

2000-09-10 Thread Rasmus Andersen
> Thats not the first oops yet, and as Keith told you, its useless. You are right and I fscked up. Apologies. This should be the first oops (from 2.2.17): ksymoops 0.7c on i686 2.2.17pre13. Options used -V (specified) -K (specified) -L (specified) -O (specified) -m

Re: Availability of kdb

2000-09-10 Thread J. Dow
From: "Linus Torvalds" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > Yes, using a power-drill and other tools makes a lot of carpentry easier. > To the point that a lot of carpenters don't even use their hands much any > more. Almost all the "carpentry" today is 99% automated, and sure, it > works wonderfuly -

Riccoh CD-RW PCIMCA

2000-09-10 Thread Garst R. Reese
Has anybody tried this device? It is not listed under supported or unsupported cards. The card has a switch for 16bit/CardBus. pls cc me because I am not currently on the list. lk 2.4.0test8 pcmcia-cs 5 Sep. Thanks a bunch, Garst - To unsubscribe from this list: send the line "unsubscribe

Re: Availability of kdb

2000-09-10 Thread J. Dow
From: "Linus Torvalds" [EMAIL PROTECTED] Yes, using a power-drill and other tools makes a lot of carpentry easier. To the point that a lot of carpenters don't even use their hands much any more. Almost all the "carpentry" today is 99% automated, and sure, it works wonderfuly - especially as

Re: Availability of kdb

2000-09-10 Thread J. Dow
From: "Stephen E. Clark" [EMAIL PROTECTED] Linus Torvalds wrote: On Sat, 9 Sep 2000, Oliver Xymoron wrote: Tools are tools. They don't make better code. They make better code easier if used properly. I think you missed the point of my original reply completely. The

Re: Whining about MIME formatted email

2000-09-10 Thread Richard Gooch
Alexander Viro writes: MIME may help to work around the b0rken MTAs that are not 8-bit clean, but that's about it. It is nothing but a glamorized tarball. MIME and glamour are like oil and water. Regards, Richard

Re: Availability of kdb

2000-09-10 Thread John Alvord
On Sun, 10 Sep 2000 00:23:43 -0700, "J. Dow" [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: From: "Stephen E. Clark" [EMAIL PROTECTED] Linus Torvalds wrote: On Sat, 9 Sep 2000, Oliver Xymoron wrote: Tools are tools. They don't make better code. They make better code easier if used properly. I think

Re: OFF TOPIC - email solution required

2000-09-10 Thread Davide Libenzi
On Sun, 10 Sep 2000, richard wrote: I am currnetly using Redhat Linux 6.2, and am having serious difficulty finding the "right" email tools, and as this list is often times huge, and is also linux based, I figured some of you might be using that tool, i have not found. here are some of

Re: How to put something in /proc

2000-09-10 Thread Davide Libenzi
On Sun, 10 Sep 2000, Giuliano Pochini wrote: I need to create a "file" in /proc to monitor some kernel variables from user space. How can I do ? / Where can I get docs ? And how can I do time measurements from inside the kernel ? Search for proc_register() inside the kernel sources. I don't

Re: Availability of kdb

2000-09-10 Thread Andrew Morton
Michael Elizabeth Chastain wrote: Rather than discussing what he's said, I ask: OK, if an integrated kernel debugger is inimical to developing more gurus, what contributions would Linus welcome? More documentation, so that more people can understand more deeply? Cleanup patches, to

Re: How to put something in /proc

2000-09-10 Thread Davide Libenzi
On Sun, 10 Sep 2000, Alexander Viro wrote: On Sun, 10 Sep 2000, Davide Libenzi wrote: On Sun, 10 Sep 2000, Giuliano Pochini wrote: I need to create a "file" in /proc to monitor some kernel variables from user space. How can I do ? / Where can I get docs ? And how can I do time

Re: How to put something in /proc

2000-09-10 Thread Andrew Morton
Alexander Viro wrote: Search for proc_register() inside the kernel sources. _Don't_ proc_register() is dead. Use create_proc_read_entry() instead. Folks, support of the static procfs entries is gone and it will not be back. Any initializer for struct proc_dir_entry is a LARTable

Re: How to put something in /proc

2000-09-10 Thread Alexander Viro
On Sun, 10 Sep 2000, Andrew Morton wrote: Sigh. --- linux-2.4.0-test8/fs/proc/generic.c Thu Aug 24 21:07:24 2000 +++ linux-akpm/fs/proc/generic.c Sun Sep 10 21:20:45 2000 @@ -346,6 +346,13 @@ lookup: proc_lookup, }; +/* + * _Don't_ + * + *

Re: How to put something in /proc

2000-09-10 Thread Alexander Viro
On Sun, 10 Sep 2000, Davide Libenzi wrote: OK, last time i've worked with proc stuff was two years ago, I've to update but: # find /usr/src/linux -name '*.c' -exec grep proc_register \{} \; | wc -l 119 I'm not alone :-) On 2.2. Last October I've cleaned that crap in 2.3 - To

Re: [final fix] Re: Another ext2fs issue with 2.4.0-test8-final

2000-09-10 Thread Udo A. Steinberg
Alexander Viro wrote: Urgh. Look for BUG in syslog (right before the oops). AFAICS it should be line 711, i.e. if (!buffer_mapped(bh)) BUG(); Yes, I saw that. I've applied the patch you posted and it appears to work well. The same procedures that formerly broke it

Re: [PATCH] for PAS16 functionality for 2.4

2000-09-10 Thread Christoph Hellwig
In article [EMAIL PROTECTED] you wrote: The PAS16 sound support includes code for the Soundblaster capability on the card. Yes. I found an apparent Makefile error which does not enable the Soundblaster support as anticipated. Adding SB support induces an error for uart401 being included

Re: Availability of kdb

2000-09-10 Thread Daniel Phillips
Linus Torvalds wrote: It's not whether you can use tools to do the work. It's about what kind of people you get. This makes a lot of sense. Stop there and you are done. But... ...in the end, maybe the rule to only use hand power makes sense. Not because hand-power is _better_. But

2.4.0-test8 LVM(vgscan) on SCSI problems (report)

2000-09-10 Thread iafilius
Hello, With 2.4.0-test8 (test8-pre6 seems to be OK) vgscan (at boottime) "sees" al my volumegroups which are on IDE disk, but not those on SCSI disk. I had no problems mounting a "plain" ext2 scsi partition on same disk. After some "research" i found sd.c is patched, but not yet in test8-pre6.

Re: 2.4.0-test8 LVM(vgscan) on SCSI problems (report)

2000-09-10 Thread Jan Niehusmann
On Sun, Sep 10, 2000 at 03:55:46PM +0200, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: With 2.4.0-test8 (test8-pre6 seems to be OK) vgscan (at boottime) "sees" al my volumegroups which are on IDE disk, but not those on SCSI disk. I had no problems mounting a "plain" ext2 scsi partition on same disk. Yes, if you

Re: [PATCH] for PAS16 functionality for 2.4

2000-09-10 Thread Thomas Molina
On Sun, 10 Sep 2000, Christoph Hellwig wrote: In article [EMAIL PROTECTED] you wrote: The enclosed patch corrects the Makefile and makes appropriate changes to various doc files. Please consider accepting this for the next kernel. This patch is against 2.4.0-test8. Aehmm. Your

2.4.0-test8 and ssh (OpenSSH_2.1.1): error: socket: Address family not supported by protocol

2000-09-10 Thread Christophe Broult
Hello, I have just compiled the last version of the Linux kernel (2.4.0-test8) and somehow I am no longer able to use ssh and get the following message: Received disconnect: Command terminated on signal 11. In /var/log/auth, I can find the following line: sshd[4460]: error: socket: Address

Re: Notebook disk spindown

2000-09-10 Thread Andrea Arcangeli
On Sat, 9 Sep 2000, Richard Gooch wrote: at least a day, IMO. There's probably no reason it can't effectively be infinite. The kernel shouldn't be enforcing policy in this area. Right. An embedded usage where there are no writeable blockdevices can just set the interval to zero and avoid a

Any takers for another kind of development tool?

2000-09-10 Thread Jamie Lokier
Michael Elizabeth Chastain wrote: A source control system so that curious people could do the equivalent of "cvs annotate" and figure out who wrote particular pieces? Note convinced about "cvs annotate". Maybe annotation with version numbers. But "cvs diff" and "cvs update" are very

Re: Dave's Power Store News Welcomes You!

2000-09-10 Thread Bob Lorenzini
On Sun, 10 Sep 2000, Keith Owens wrote: On Sat, 9 Sep 2000 22:25:42 -0400 (EDT), "David Greenwalt" [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Go forth and complain. Feel free to use the 800 number Dave so kindly provided. Bob - To unsubscribe from this list: send the line "unsubscribe linux-kernel" in

Linux 2.2.18pre4

2000-09-10 Thread Alan Cox
This cleans up a lot of the small bugs, some ext2 races and other smaller items partly from 2.2.17 partly from the new code. Hopefully the changes from now on through to 2.2.18 can be smaller as we shake stuff out of the drivers and other stuff merged. 2.2.18pre4 o Remove the aacraid

Re: Any takers for another kind of development tool?

2000-09-10 Thread Daniel Phillips
Jamie Lokier wrote: Michael Elizabeth Chastain wrote: A source control system so that curious people could do the equivalent of "cvs annotate" and figure out who wrote particular pieces? Note convinced about "cvs annotate". Maybe annotation with version numbers. But "cvs diff"

Re: Linux 2.2.18pre4

2000-09-10 Thread Steven N. Hirsch
On Sun, 10 Sep 2000, Alan Cox wrote: This cleans up a lot of the small bugs, some ext2 races and other smaller items partly from 2.2.17 partly from the new code. Hopefully the changes from now on through to 2.2.18 can be smaller as we shake stuff out of the drivers and other stuff merged.

Re: Linux 2.2.18pre4

2000-09-10 Thread Alan Cox
sigh.. Alan, are the NFS client/server patches EVER going to make it into the base kernel? Inquiring minds want to know.. I still hope so but there is a maximum sane rate of change and its important to change stuff piece by piece. 2.2.18pre4 isnt the right place to change NFS - To

Re: Availability of kdb

2000-09-10 Thread Horst von Brand
"J. Dow" [EMAIL PROTECTED] said: [...] And for my severely depreciated $0.02 I am becoming concerned that these guys are more concerned about some macho ideal of generating programs while half crippled than about having things work properly and maintainably no matter what gets in the way.

Re: APIC error interrupt routine.

2000-09-10 Thread Chris Chiappa
On Sat, Aug 19, 2000 at 12:34:17AM +0200, Ingo Molnar wrote: You're one of the lucky ones then. I have a non-overclocked BP6, CPUs at default voltage and cooling fans up the wazoo (I even have a 486 fan with extra grease strapped to the BX) and if I run CPU intensive apps, I still

Re: SCO: thread creation is about a thousand times faster than on native Linux

2000-09-10 Thread Thomas Zehetbauer
quote SCO's Juergen Kienhoefer tells us that by mapping clone processes quote directly onto UnixWare's native threads, huge performance gains quote can be realised. "Basically thread creation is about a thousand quote times faster than on native Linux," he said. The performance boost quote

Re: APIC error interrupt routine.

2000-09-10 Thread Robert A. Hayden
On Sun, 10 Sep 2000, Chris Chiappa wrote: It's not really a big deal to me since I'm getting rid of the BP6 in 2 or 3 weeks, but it's definitely my last ABIT product. Does anyone else make a dual celeron capable mobo that is socket 370? The heatsink/fan layout is not-removable from my procs

Re: Oops on boot with both 2.2.17 and 2.4.0t8p6

2000-09-10 Thread David Woodhouse
On Fri, 8 Sep 2000, Andrew Burgess wrote: Oops from 2.2.17 (some more before this, but it went offscreen): ... You need to capture and decode the first oops. Compile a kernel with a serial console and capture the oops log on a second machine. Or set your console for more than 80x25

Re: 2.4.0-test8 and ssh (OpenSSH_2.1.1): error: socket: Address family not supported by protocol

2000-09-10 Thread Gregory T. Norris
I'm seeing this as well. Have you tried it without X11 forwarding? It seems to work correctly in that case. On Sun, Sep 10, 2000 at 04:42:55PM +0200, Christophe Broult wrote: Hello, I have just compiled the last version of the Linux kernel (2.4.0-test8) and somehow I am no longer able

Re: [PATCH] for PAS16 functionality for 2.4

2000-09-10 Thread Christoph Hellwig
On Sun, Sep 10, 2000 at 09:48:55AM -0500, Thomas Molina wrote: On Sun, 10 Sep 2000, Christoph Hellwig wrote: I know I misunderstand things occasionally, but it looks ok to me. Isn't that just an artifact of the diff/patch thing? I simply added sb.o to the line when I edited it. That's

Re: Availability of kdb

2000-09-10 Thread Aki M Laukkanen
On Sun, 10 Sep 2000, Horst von Brand wrote: I've found more bugs by "working half crippled" (as you call it). I do agree with Linus that people who rely mainly on debuggers for finding and fixing bugs are on the whole bad programmers, I've had to deal with more I've resisted from

Re: Linux 2.2.18pre4 (smbfs config.in patch)

2000-09-10 Thread Urban Widmark
A patch for the Config.in problems with smbfs. /Urban diff -ur -X exclude linux-2.2.18-pre4-orig/Documentation/Configure.help linux/Documentation/Configure.help --- linux-2.2.18-pre4-orig/Documentation/Configure.help Sun Sep 10 20:07:56 2000 +++ linux/Documentation/Configure.help Sun Sep 10

Re: [PATCH] for PAS16 functionality for 2.4

2000-09-10 Thread Michael Elizabeth Chastain
Yepp. These warnings are there becuse of the way the list-style Makefiles work. You will see lots of them in drivers/net and drivers/scsi, too. Here's a patch. Let me know if it works for you; if it does, I will submit it for 2.4.0. Here is some history: drivers/sound was the first of the

Bug in 2.4.0-test8: ramfs + highmem + patch

2000-09-10 Thread wollny
Hello, using ramfs with highmem enabled (and ehough RAM ;) yields a possible :Unable to handle kernel NULL pointer dereference at virtual address :printing eip: :c0166f88 [snip] This is in asm/string.h: 518 called by fs/ramfs/inode.c:68 here page_address used to access the

Re: Linux 2.2.18pre4

2000-09-10 Thread Jeff Hittman
Alan - What is PRE4 applied against? I'm seeing errors patching up from either 17pre20 or 2.2.17 final. | Begathon, n.: A multi-day event on public Jeff Hittman | television, used to raise money so you won't have [EMAIL PROTECTED] | to watch commercials.

Re: [PATCH] for PAS16 functionality for 2.4

2000-09-10 Thread Christoph Hellwig
On Sun, Sep 10, 2000 at 01:54:38PM -0500, Thomas Molina wrote: I suppose the more basic question is: Should the Soundblaster-specific code in pas2_card.c be ripped out and leave only PAS-specific code in the PAS driver? IMHO you should add some _more_ code to pas2_card.c so the sb stuff is

Re: 2.2.18pre2aa2 and patches for 2.2.18pre3

2000-09-10 Thread Roeland Th. Jansen
On Thu, Sep 07, 2000 at 11:26:56PM +1100, Matthew Hawkins wrote: I'd like to advocate the inclusion of the majority of these patches of Andrea's. I've been patching most of them in for a while now simply because I've found my SMP system much more stable and useable. I also takled with

Who ate my BogoMIPS?!

2000-09-10 Thread Bernd Kischnick
I'm sure I missed some redefinition, but lately I noticed that the BogoMIPS count for my PowerMac has dropped rather significantly. My logs still show kernel 2.4.0-test6 at 166.30 BogoMIPS --- and now there are only 14.23 left! (since -test7) CPU showing signs of age? Should I invest in a new

USB mouse stopped working (kernel 2.4.0-test8)

2000-09-10 Thread Bernd Kischnick
Hello all, between kernel 2.4.0-test7 and test8 something has happened to break my USB mouse. Platform is a PowerMac equipped with an OPTI USB-controller on a PCI card. I've seen a lot of lockups from the USB system on test7 --- some of them have gone in test8, especially when loading modules.

Re: 2.2.18pre2aa2 and patches for 2.2.18pre3

2000-09-10 Thread Michael
I hate to post just to say me too, but we couldn't run 2.2.16 for more than a few hours and even 2.2.17 would stop responding with a load average 200 right around the time of our heaviest usage and never come back. Assuming 2.2.18pre2aa2 doesn't crash in the next 2 weeks (the original

2.4.0-test8: BUG at ll_rw_blk.c:711

2000-09-10 Thread Steffen Luitz
2.4.0-test8's kupdate just crashed with a BUG at ll_rw_blk.c:711 when I was trying to save a file from StarOffice. The system is a Dual PII-300 (with SMP ...) Here the relevant syslog with the call trace: Sep 10 11:22:10 xxx kernel: kernel BUG at ll_rw_blk.c:711! Sep 10 11:22:10 xxx kernel:

Re: 2.4.0-test8: BUG at ll_rw_blk.c:711

2000-09-10 Thread Udo A. Steinberg
Steffen Luitz wrote: 2.4.0-test8's kupdate just crashed with a BUG at ll_rw_blk.c:711 when I was trying to save a file from StarOffice. The system is a Dual PII-300 (with SMP ...) Al Viro posted a patch to fix this problem earlier today on this list. Udo. - To unsubscribe from this list:

Re: Oops on boot with both 2.2.17 and 2.4.0t8p6

2000-09-10 Thread Rasmus Andersen
Hi. Interesting turn in my efforts to make linux boot on my newly acquired old computer: Mike Galbraith offered me IKD for 2.4.0t8, which I accepted and tried (I said yes to all the IKD config options). This made 2.4.0t8 boot and get as far as complaining about bad root fs (which is correct for

Re: [final fix] Re: Another ext2fs issue with 2.4.0-test8-final

2000-09-10 Thread Linus Torvalds
On Sun, 10 Sep 2000, Alexander Viro wrote: Arrggh. Linus, buffer can be up-to-date, but unmapped. Marking it dirty is illegal, indeed. IOW, we need to (cut-and-paste alert) Goopd catch. Yes, we should just do the mapped/uptodate checks in the other order. Good call. Linus

[patchlet] minor mm/slab.c cleanup (2.4.0-t8)

2000-09-10 Thread Rasmus Andersen
Hi. This is against 2.4.0-test8. It removes an unnecessary check (done earlier) for a slab destructor (unless I am missing some black magic) and substitutes __set_current_state for current-state=XXX. --- linux-240test8-clean/mm/slab.c Thu Aug 24 09:43:36 2000 +++ linux/mm/slab.c Sun

[PATCH] do not mount the same filesystem on the same mount point

2000-09-10 Thread Andries Brouwer
Dear Linus, Al, all: Below a patch to prevent mounting the same filesystem repeatedly on the same mount point. This 4-line patch is + /* Refuse the same filesystem on the same mount point */ + retval = -EBUSY; + if (nd.mnt nd.mnt-mnt_sb == sb +

Re: Linux 2.2.18pre4 make xconfig error

2000-09-10 Thread Art Wagner
On "make xconfig" error on /fs/nls/Config.in, line 8 if error due to missing "" on n Art Wagner Alan Cox wrote: This cleans up a lot of the small bugs, some ext2 races and other smaller items partly from 2.2.17 partly from the new code. Hopefully the changes from now on through to 2.2.18

Re: 2.4.0-test8: BUG at ll_rw_blk.c:711

2000-09-10 Thread Martin Costabel
"Udo A. Steinberg" wrote: Steffen Luitz wrote: 2.4.0-test8's kupdate just crashed with a BUG at ll_rw_blk.c:711 when I was trying to save a file from StarOffice. The system is a Dual PII-300 (with SMP ...) Al Viro posted a patch to fix this problem earlier today on this list. Where

Re: 2.4.0-test8: BUG at ll_rw_blk.c:711

2000-09-10 Thread Alexander Viro
On Sun, 10 Sep 2000, Martin Costabel wrote: "Udo A. Steinberg" wrote: Steffen Luitz wrote: 2.4.0-test8's kupdate just crashed with a BUG at ll_rw_blk.c:711 when I was trying to save a file from StarOffice. The system is a Dual PII-300 (with SMP ...) Al Viro posted a

[2.4.0test8]cs46xx.c:107: warning: `SND_DEV_DSP16' redefined

2000-09-10 Thread C Sanjayan Rosenmund
Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit I got this with 2.4.0test7 8 when compiling in support for my sound card. I read the archives for the last two weeks and found mo mention of this error. Please cc me with any answers you can give. The error I got is

8% of the Internet unreachable!

2000-09-10 Thread Dax Kelson
Executive Summary: Survey shows 8.3% of websites unreachable from an ECN capable client. Notable unreachable sites: www.amazon.com, www.ibm.com, www.sun.com, www.apple.com, www.intel.com, www.disney.com, www.espn.com, www.zdnet.com, www.ups.com, www.visa.com, abc.com, cbs.com, fox.com,

Oops...

2000-09-10 Thread Ricardo Rio
Hello.I've been having problems with my computer in Linux Os. Ever since I've changed my video card the computer has been freezing up ( Random running time)!! First I thought it has XFree86 but now I'm not so sure. If it was because of the graphics card I would have seen people complaining,

Re: Oops on boot with both 2.2.17 and 2.4.0t8p6

2000-09-10 Thread Mike Galbraith
On Sun, 10 Sep 2000, Rasmus Andersen wrote: Hi. Interesting turn in my efforts to make linux boot on my newly acquired old computer: Mike Galbraith offered me IKD for 2.4.0t8, which I accepted and tried (I said yes to all the IKD config options). This made 2.4.0t8 boot and get as far as

Re: Bugfix in dquot_transfer()

2000-09-10 Thread Carlos Carvalho
Jan Kara ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) wrote on 4 September 2000 08:25: Following patch fixes bug in dquot_transfer() - while we were sleeping i_blocks might change and so number quota was miscounted. Patches are against 2.2.16 and 2.4.0-test6 (but should apply well on newer versions). I seem to have

Re: Who ate my BogoMIPS?!

2000-09-10 Thread Alexander Hoogerhuis
A similar issue here that has cropped up with a few laptops I've tried: The measured BogoMIPS and CPU clock speed varies from boot to boot. The machines are all Compaq Armada M700's, all models are PIII-500, PIII-600, PIII-650, PIII-700 and PIII-750's. Any one of these models will be randomly

Re: Who ate my BogoMIPS?!

2000-09-10 Thread Joel Jaeggli
the mobile pentium III's will operate at 500mhz when disconnected from power in order to conserve the battery unless you disable this functionality in the bios(which yoou can do at the expense of some battery life)... you should see the lower bogomips result when booting without the laptop

Re: Who ate my BogoMIPS?!

2000-09-10 Thread Alan Cox
The machines are all Compaq Armada M700's, all models are PIII-500, PIII-600, PIII-650, PIII-700 and PIII-750's. Any one of these models will be randomly detected as having any speed that is either a) correct or b) of any model below it. You need ot use a later 2.2 kernel with intel

Re: Who ate my BogoMIPS?!

2000-09-10 Thread Alexander Hoogerhuis
This is where it gets intersting in a hurry, the same machine will appear as 500, 600, 650, 700 or 750MHz both with AC and without AC on successive reboots. There seem actually to be little logic in it. I've now rebooted since I originally posted the first mail, and I'm now identified as 600MHz,

Re: 2.2.18pre2aa2 and patches for 2.2.18pre3

2000-09-10 Thread Andrea Arcangeli
On Fri, 8 Sep 2000, Matthew Hawkins wrote: Something between bigmem and his big VM changes makes reiserfs uncompilable. [..] It's due LFS. Chris should have a reiserfs patch that compiles on top of 2.2.18pre2aa2, right? (if not Chris, I can sure find it because the server that was reproducing

Re: Availability of kdb

2000-09-10 Thread Bob Taylor
In message [EMAIL PROTECTED], Nathan Paul Simons writes: On Sun, Sep 10, 2000 at 12:15:31AM -0700, J. Dow wrote: Properly contemplated and I wonder at the hypocrisy of using a compiler or an assembler instead of carefully hand crafted bits on a blank disk. i think you miss the

Re: Who ate my BogoMIPS?!

2000-09-10 Thread Alexander Hoogerhuis
2.2.17 is as "late" as it get's to my knowledge. Haven't had a look at the problem with 2.2.18preX still. cheers, Alexander Alan Cox [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: The machines are all Compaq Armada M700's, all models are PIII-500, PIII-600, PIII-650, PIII-700 and PIII-750's. Any one of these

35k host ECN survey script and results

2000-09-10 Thread Dax Kelson
Many people have asked for the script, my initial list, and the raw results from the current run. I've made them available here: http://www.gurulabs.com/ecn-check.tar.bz2 (367KB) It took 12 hours to check the list. It would pretty easy to automatically email a message to the broken sites.

Re: Availability of kdb

2000-09-10 Thread Jeff V. Merkey
Nathan Paul Simons wrote: On Sun, Sep 10, 2000 at 12:15:31AM -0700, J. Dow wrote: Properly contemplated and I wonder at the hypocrisy of using a compiler or an assembler instead of carefully hand crafted bits on a blank disk. i think you miss the point. i think that Linus is

Re: 2.4.0-test8: BUG at ll_rw_blk.c:711

2000-09-10 Thread Bill West
With 2.4.0-test8 my system reboots on its own about every 6 to 8 hours with nothing in the logs except dirty partition from unclean shutdown. Reverted back to test7 and everything back to normal. Was at first thinking it might have been a hd going flakey but back to rock solid with test7. Intel

Installing Kernel-2.4.test6 problem

2000-09-10 Thread Ibrahim El-Shafei
Hi all, I got this error when I tried to 'make bzImage' or 'make install' ...etc the error is attached with this message and the makefile also attached thanx for your help Yours, Ibrahim El-Shafei _/\_/\_ / 0 ! O \ 0| ___ |0 \___/ Makefile emd.c: In function

2.2.18pre4 won't boot on i686

2000-09-10 Thread Horst von Brand
Both machines here (a desktop, P3/600 on an intel SR440BX motherboard, running Red Hat 6.9.5; kernel compiled with kgcc (egcs-1.1.2); a notebook, Toshiba Satellite pro 4280 XDVD or some such, mobile P3/500, running Red Hat 6.2) hang after "OK, now booting the kernel". -- Horst von Brand

Re: 2.2.18pre4 won't boot on i686

2000-09-10 Thread Alan Cox
Both machines here (a desktop, P3/600 on an intel SR440BX motherboard, running Red Hat 6.9.5; kernel compiled with kgcc (egcs-1.1.2); a notebook, Toshiba Satellite pro 4280 XDVD or some such, mobile P3/500, running Red Hat 6.2) hang after "OK, now booting the kernel". Yep I've been chasing

Re: Availability of kdb

2000-09-10 Thread Alexander Viro
On Sun, 10 Sep 2000, Jeff V. Merkey wrote: already there, so folks can use it on Linux for now, and I'll stick to printk() and code reviews for my debugging on Linux. Jeff, does it mean that you do not use code reviews on other projects? It's not that hard to answer - just 1 bit of

IDE HD seek error

2000-09-10 Thread Magnus Naeslund
Yesterday i upgraded an old server (hand upgraded ever since 2.0.33 - 2.2.16 i believe) to a new dist (rh6.2). I installed a 2.2.16 suse kernel (no need to handpatch LVM + reiser :)). This server has 4 IDE drives and 2 scsii drives, but only one drive is giving me grief. To note is that it has

Re: 2.2.18pre4 won't boot on i686

2000-09-10 Thread Daniel Roesen
On Sun, Sep 10, 2000 at 08:22:30PM -0400, Horst von Brand wrote: hang after "OK, now booting the kernel". Apply patch attached. Fix by Alan Cox, not me. Best regards, Daniel --- linux-2.2.18pre4.vanilla/init/main.cMon Sep 11 02:36:31 2000 +++ linux-2.2.18pre4/init/main.cMon

Re: Availability of kdb

2000-09-10 Thread Paul Jakma
arrgghh jeff... On Sun, 10 Sep 2000, Jeff V. Merkey wrote: One of the principal architects at Compaq called me Friday after reading Linus' email about not caring about commercial or support issues for commercialization of Linux on this topic-- his right yes it his right. he cares about the

Re: Availability of kdb

2000-09-10 Thread Jeff V. Merkey
Alexander Viro wrote: On Sun, 10 Sep 2000, Jeff V. Merkey wrote: already there, so folks can use it on Linux for now, and I'll stick to printk() and code reviews for my debugging on Linux. Jeff, does it mean that you do not use code reviews on other projects? It's not that hard to

[PATCH] Page aging for 2.4.0-test8

2000-09-10 Thread Neil Schemenauer
This patch adds page aging similar to what was in 2.0. The patch is quite straight forward but I've had one lockup that I have been unable to reproduce. I don't know if the lockup was caused by my patch or was a test8 bug. This patch is supposed to improve interactive performance, especially

Flush_cache_page inteface (was: Re: [PATCH] Cache alias issues for swapped page)

2000-09-10 Thread NIIBE Yutaka
Russell King wrote: Also, I believe that the use of flush_page_to_ram() is wrong here, since this seems to be intended to be used when the kernel has been writing to its direct mapped version of the page, which is should not have been (if it has, then the act of writing is a bug, not the

Re: 2.2.18pre4 won't boot on i686

2000-09-10 Thread Linus Torvalds
On Mon, 11 Sep 2000, Alan Cox wrote: Both machines here (a desktop, P3/600 on an intel SR440BX motherboard, running Red Hat 6.9.5; kernel compiled with kgcc (egcs-1.1.2); a notebook, Toshiba Satellite pro 4280 XDVD or some such, mobile P3/500, running Red Hat 6.2) hang after "OK, now

[bad PATCH] - arch/ppc/config.in for 2.{3,4}.* to get PCI right onG4

2000-09-10 Thread Chris Bednar
The following is a little patch I've been having to do to get development kernels to configure PCI right on my G4. I know it's not the right thing to do, but I've never managed to figure out what's wrong with the original; maybe somebody who understands config-speak will know. Anyway,

Re: 2.2.18pre4 won't boot on i686

2000-09-10 Thread David S. Miller
Date:Sun, 10 Sep 2000 19:31:10 -0700 (PDT) From: Linus Torvalds [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Or does 2.2.x copy the setup stuff without copying any of the regular _users_ of those setup functions?). Right, this is what is going on at the moment. Later, David S. Miller [EMAIL

Re: Linux 2.2.18pre4

2000-09-10 Thread Albert D. Cahalan
Alan Cox writes: [somebody] sigh.. Alan, are the NFS client/server patches EVER going to make it into the base kernel? Inquiring minds want to know.. I still hope so but there is a maximum sane rate of change and its important to change stuff piece by piece. 2.2.18pre4 isnt the right

8139too for 2.2.x kernels

2000-09-10 Thread Jeff Garzik
Thanks to Jens David, the 8139too net driver has been backported to 2.2.x kernels: http://gtf.org/garzik/drivers/8139too/8139too-0.9.9-2.2-diffs.gz Although feedback is encouraged, it should be noted that this is an unsupported driver. (I'm only supporting 8139too on 2.4.x right now..)

Re: 8% of the Internet unreachable!

2000-09-10 Thread Steven Cole
Dax Kelson wrote: Survey shows 8.3% of websites unreachable from an ECN capable client. Notable unreachable sites: www.amazon.com, www.ibm.com, www.sun.com, www.apple.com, I'm running 2.4.0-test8 and I was able to reach all four of the above sites using kppp 2.0pre18. My starter

[PATCH] APM patch for 2.2.18pre4

2000-09-10 Thread Stephen Rothwell
Hi Alan, [Thanks to Arjan van de Ven for mailing me a patch that I have modified] Since 2.2.18pre4 now has __setup and module_init stuff in it, here is a patch to make the APM driver use it (as it does in 2.4.x). Cheers, Stephen -- Stephen Rothwell, Open Source Researcher, Linuxcare, Inc.

Re: 8% of the Internet unreachable!

2000-09-10 Thread Evan Jeffrey
Dax Kelson wrote: Survey shows 8.3% of websites unreachable from an ECN capable client. Notable unreachable sites: www.amazon.com, www.ibm.com, www.sun.com, www.apple.com, I'm running 2.4.0-test8 and I was able to reach all four of the above sites using kppp 2.0pre18. My starter

Re: 8% of the Internet unreachable!

2000-09-10 Thread Steven Cole
On Sun, 10 Sep 2000, David Miller wrote: From: Steven Cole [EMAIL PROTECTED] Date: Sun, 10 Sep 2000 21:24:21 -0600 The bottom line is, 2.4.0-test8 works for me with this setup. I didn't see any options which would enable/disable ECN, but perhaps I overlooked something.

Re: ECN configuration not working

2000-09-10 Thread Linux Now
On Sat, 9 Sep 2000, David S. Miller wrote: Date: Sat, 9 Sep 2000 20:22:41 +0200 (CEST) From: Linux Now [EMAIL PROTECTED] If you just unset it in .config and echo 0 /proc/sys/net/ipv4/tcp_ecn, it just acts as if it was enabled. If you unset it in .config there is no

Montavista's preemptive preempt-rtsched kernels benchmarked ( still 50msec latencies )

2000-09-10 Thread Benno Senoner
Hi, I benchmarked Montavista's premptive and preemtive-rtsched kernels ( patches for 2.4.0-test6) using "latencytest". summary: both patches do not improve latencies very much over standard kernels I believe around factor 2, but far away from the factor 10 ( 12msec) claimed in the

Re: Availability of kdb

2000-09-10 Thread David S. Miller
Date:Sun, 10 Sep 2000 18:14:03 -0600 From: "Jeff V. Merkey" [EMAIL PROTECTED] Linus' apparently did not understand this, or he would have immediately realized that double locking was always generating a second non-cacheable memory reference for every lock being taken

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