Re: processes> 2^15

2000-11-06 Thread Arnaud S . Launay
Le Sat, Nov 04, 2000 at 09:01:58PM +0100, Andries Brouwer a écrit: > > after reaching process count something around 30568, processes start > > getting pid from start, which ever is the first free entry slot in process > > table. that means we can't have simultaneously more than roughly 2^15 > >

Re: Persistent module storage [was Linux 2.4 Status / TODO page]

2000-11-06 Thread David Feuer
I've seen the same arguments over and over again here. It seems that there are two feasible ways to accomplish persistence: totally kernel and totally user-space The totally kernel-space people want to make a way for modules to store persistent data, either in memory, or across boots on

RE: malloc(1/0) ??

2000-11-06 Thread David Schwartz
> hi, > why does this program works. when executed, it doesnt > give a segmentation fault. when the program requests > memory, is a standard chunk is allocated irrespective > of the what the user specifies. please explain. > > main() > { >char *s; >s = (char*)malloc(0); >

RE: malloc(1/0) ??

2000-11-06 Thread David Schwartz
> From: "Dan Kegel" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > > [EMAIL PROTECTED] asked: > > > [Why does this program not crash?] > > > > > > main() > > > { > > >char *s; > > >s = (char*)malloc(0); > > >strcpy(s,"f"); > > >printf("%s\n",s); > > > } > > > > It doesn't crash because the standard

Re: Poor TCP Performance 2.4.0-10 <-> Win98 SE PPP

2000-11-06 Thread David S. Miller
Date: Mon, 06 Nov 2000 23:32:42 -0800 From: Jordan Mendelson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Ok, but why doesn't 2.2.16 exhibit this behavior? We've had reports from quite a number of people complaining about this and I'm fairly certain not all of them are from Earthlink. The only thing

Re: Poor TCP Performance 2.4.0-10 <-> Win98 SE PPP

2000-11-06 Thread Jordan Mendelson
"David S. Miller" wrote: > >Date: Mon, 06 Nov 2000 23:16:21 -0800 >From: Jordan Mendelson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > >"David S. Miller" wrote: >> It is clear though, that something is messing with or corrupting the >> packets. One thing you might try is turning off TCP header >

Re: Poor TCP Performance 2.4.0-10 <-> Win98 SE PPP

2000-11-06 Thread David S. Miller
Date: Tue, 7 Nov 2000 08:16:04 +0100 From: Andi Kleen <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Hmm. One of these weird bandwidth limiters again? In a more recent mail, TCP header compression in Win98 or Earthlink's terminal servers have become the current prime suspect. :-) The RTT is lower than 2.2's

Re: Poor TCP Performance 2.4.0-10 <-> Win98 SE PPP

2000-11-06 Thread David S. Miller
Date: Mon, 06 Nov 2000 23:16:21 -0800 From: Jordan Mendelson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> "David S. Miller" wrote: > It is clear though, that something is messing with or corrupting the > packets. One thing you might try is turning off TCP header > compression for the PPP link, does

Re: locks.c: removal of semaphores

2000-11-06 Thread Andrew Morton
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: > > Andrew, > I got 5250 Req/s with your locks-sem.patch on normal Apache. > It is good performance on normal Apache. Great. Thanks again. Trond has this patch now for ongoing NFS locking stuff. Hopefully 2.4 will now work OK with "legacy" Apache configurations. As

sound driver persistent state

2000-11-06 Thread Steve VanDevender
David Feuer writes: > People keep saying it's OK to start muted on boot, but I must say that I > don't think this is really acceptable I may very well want to set my > mixer and just leave it that way forever would there be any way to give > the sound driver a scribble pad on disk

Re: Poor TCP Performance 2.4.0-10 <-> Win98 SE PPP

2000-11-06 Thread Jordan Mendelson
"David S. Miller" wrote: > >Date: Mon, 06 Nov 2000 22:44:00 -0800 >From: Jordan Mendelson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > >Attached to this message are dumps from the windows 98 machine using >windump and the linux 2.4.0-test10. Sorry the time stamps don't match >up. > > (ie. Linux

Re: malloc(1/0) ??

2000-11-06 Thread J. Dow
From: "Dan Kegel" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > [EMAIL PROTECTED] asked: > > [Why does this program not crash?] > > > > main() > > { > >char *s; > >s = (char*)malloc(0); > >strcpy(s,"f"); > >printf("%s\n",s); > > } > > It doesn't crash because the standard malloc is >

Re: Poor TCP Performance 2.4.0-10 <-> Win98 SE PPP

2000-11-06 Thread Andi Kleen
On Mon, Nov 06, 2000 at 10:59:04PM -0800, David S. Miller wrote: >Date: Tue, 7 Nov 2000 08:03:42 +0100 >From: Andi Kleen <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > >It looks very like to me like a poster child for the non timestamp >RTT update problem I just described on netdev. Linux always >

Re: Poor TCP Performance 2.4.0-10 <-> Win98 SE PPP

2000-11-06 Thread David S. Miller
Date: Tue, 7 Nov 2000 08:03:42 +0100 From: Andi Kleen <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> It looks very like to me like a poster child for the non timestamp RTT update problem I just described on netdev. Linux always retransmits too early and there is never a better RTT estimate which could

Re: Poor TCP Performance 2.4.0-10 <-> Win98 SE PPP

2000-11-06 Thread David S. Miller
Date: Mon, 06 Nov 2000 22:44:00 -0800 From: Jordan Mendelson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Attached to this message are dumps from the windows 98 machine using windump and the linux 2.4.0-test10. Sorry the time stamps don't match up. Ok, something is "odd" at the win98 side, I quote the

Re: Poor TCP Performance 2.4.0-10 <-> Win98 SE PPP

2000-11-06 Thread Andi Kleen
On Mon, Nov 06, 2000 at 10:03:05PM -0800, David S. Miller wrote: > The only thing I can do now is beg for a tcpdump from the windows95 > machine side. Do you have the facilities necessary to obtain this? > This would prove that it is packet drop between the two systems, for > whatever reason,

Re: Poor TCP Performance 2.4.0-10 <-> Win98 SE PPP

2000-11-06 Thread Jordan Mendelson
"David S. Miller" wrote: > >Date: Mon, 06 Nov 2000 22:13:23 -0800 >From: Jordan Mendelson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > >There is a possibility that we are hitting an upper level bandwidth >limit between us an our upstream provider due to a misconfiguration >on the other end, but

Re: malloc(1/0) ??

2000-11-06 Thread Dan Kegel
[EMAIL PROTECTED] asked: > [Why does this program not crash?] > > main() > { >char *s; >s = (char*)malloc(0); >strcpy(s,"f"); >printf("%s\n",s); > } It doesn't crash because the standard malloc is optimized for speed, not for finding bugs. Try linking it with a

Re: Poor TCP Performance 2.4.0-10 <-> Win98 SE PPP

2000-11-06 Thread David S. Miller
Date: Mon, 06 Nov 2000 22:13:23 -0800 From: Jordan Mendelson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> There is a possibility that we are hitting an upper level bandwidth limit between us an our upstream provider due to a misconfiguration on the other end, but this should only happen during peak time

Re: Poor TCP Performance 2.4.0-10 <-> Win98 SE PPP

2000-11-06 Thread Jordan Mendelson
"David S. Miller" wrote: > >Date: Mon, 06 Nov 2000 21:20:39 -0800 >From: Jordan Mendelson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > >It looks to me like there is an artificial delay in 2.4.0 which is >slowing down the traffic to unbearable levels. > > No, I think I see whats wrong, it's nothing

Re: rdtsc to mili secs?

2000-11-06 Thread H. Peter Anvin
Followup to: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> By author:Antony Suter <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> In newsgroup: linux.dev.kernel > > This issue, and all related issues, need to be taken care of for all > speed changing CPUs from Intel, AMD and Transmeta. Is the answer of > "howto write userland programs

Re: 2.4.0-test10 -- Problem reading VFAT formatted ORB drive.

2000-11-06 Thread Miles Lane
Andries Brouwer wrote: > On Tue, Nov 07, 2000 at 12:43:43AM -0800, Miles Lane wrote: > > >> I have an ORB drive I am accessing using the usb-storage driver. >> I formatted the drive media last night using Windoze 98. The media >> was formatted as though it had one large partition, which is

Re: Poor TCP Performance 2.4.0-10 <-> Win98 SE PPP

2000-11-06 Thread David S. Miller
Date: Mon, 06 Nov 2000 21:20:39 -0800 From: Jordan Mendelson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> It looks to me like there is an artificial delay in 2.4.0 which is slowing down the traffic to unbearable levels. No, I think I see whats wrong, it's nothing more than packet drop. The large gaps in

Re: [PATCH] Re: Negative scalability by removal of

2000-11-06 Thread David S. Miller
Date:Mon, 6 Nov 2000 21:23:57 -0800 (PST) From: dean gaudet <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> apache is about correctness first, and performance second. Which is why we say it is "incorrect" for apache to try and work around kernel performance problems. :-))) Later, David S. Miller [EMAIL

Re: [PATCH] Re: Negative scalability by removal of

2000-11-06 Thread dean gaudet
On Mon, 6 Nov 2000, Linus Torvalds wrote: > This is why I'd love to _not_ see silly work-arounds in apache hey, maybe it's time for me to repeat something that i'm often quoted as saying: apache is about correctness first, and performance second. i don't think that's silly personally.

Re: Poor TCP Performance 2.4.0-10 <-> Win98 SE PPP

2000-11-06 Thread Jordan Mendelson
"David S. Miller" wrote: > >Date:Mon, 06 Nov 2000 18:17:19 -0800 >From: Jordan Mendelson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > >18:54:57.394894 eth0 > 64.124.41.177. > 209.179.248.69.1238: . >2429:2429(0) ack 506 win 6432 (DF) > > And this is it? The connection dies right here

Re: rdtsc to mili secs?

2000-11-06 Thread Antony Suter
Anton Blanchard wrote: > > > > fast_gettimeoffset_quotient, see do_fast_gettimeoffset(). > > > > Also remember that the TSC may not be available due to the chip era, chip > > bugs or running SMP with non matched CPU clocks. > > When I boot my thinkpad 600e off battery and then change to AC

Re: Persistent module storage - modutils design

2000-11-06 Thread Keith Owens
On Tue, 07 Nov 2000 15:00:11 +1100, Keith Owens <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: >insmod takes parameters from modules.conf, from the saved persistent >data (see below) and from the command line, in that order. The last >value for a parameter takes precedence. Correction: modprobe takes parameters

Re: Can EINTR be handled the way BSD handles it? -- a plea from auser-land programmer...

2000-11-06 Thread dean gaudet
On Mon, 6 Nov 2000, George Talbot wrote: > I respectfully disagree that programs which don't surround some of the > most common system calls with > > do > { > rv = __some_system_call__(...); > } while (rv == -1 && errno == EINTR); welcome to Unix. this is how

Re: 2.4.0-test10 -- Problem reading VFAT formatted ORB drive.

2000-11-06 Thread Andries Brouwer
On Tue, Nov 07, 2000 at 12:43:43AM -0800, Miles Lane wrote: > I have an ORB drive I am accessing using the usb-storage driver. > I formatted the drive media last night using Windoze 98. The media > was formatted as though it had one large partition, which is weird > because I had previously

Re: Poor TCP Performance 2.4.0-10 <-> Win98 SE PPP

2000-11-06 Thread David S. Miller
Date: Mon, 06 Nov 2000 19:44:57 -0800 From: Jordan Mendelson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Just some updates. This problem does not appear to happen under 2.2.16. The dump for 2.2.16 is almost the same except we send an mss back of 536 and not 1460 (remote mtu vs local mtu). MSS

Re: Poor TCP Performance 2.4.0-10 <-> Win98 SE PPP

2000-11-06 Thread David S. Miller
Date:Mon, 06 Nov 2000 18:17:19 -0800 From: Jordan Mendelson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> 18:54:57.394894 eth0 > 64.124.41.177. > 209.179.248.69.1238: . 2429:2429(0) ack 506 win 6432 (DF) And this is it? The connection dies right here and says no more? Surely, there was more

Re: kernel

2000-11-06 Thread David Riley
Joe Harrington wrote: > > Sorry about the question to do with visuall gcc. Alot of people seemed to > get a intolerable response to my question. The reason I posted it here was > a) I am lazy, b) On all the sites to do with Kdevelop the download links are > down, and c) I wanted to use the

sound driver persistent state

2000-11-06 Thread David Feuer
People keep saying it's OK to start muted on boot, but I must say that I don't think this is really acceptable I may very well want to set my mixer and just leave it that way forever would there be any way to give the sound driver a scribble pad on disk to let it sa -- This message

Re: Pentium 4 and 2.4/2.5

2000-11-06 Thread Robert M. Love
On Sat, 4 Nov 2000, Frank Davis hissed: > I noticed that Pentium 4 isn't an config option in 2.4.0-test10. Is > someone working on a patch for the the kernel (if needed) to support the > Pentium 4 after 2.4.0 is released? from what i have read of the Pentium IV, the linux kernel will not need

Persistent module storage - modutils design

2000-11-06 Thread Keith Owens
Enough people have asked for persistent module storage to at least justify me writing the code. The design is simple. MODULE_PARM(var,type) currently defines type as [min[-max]]{b,h,i,l,s}. For persistent data support, type is now [min[-max]]{b,h,i,l,s}{p}, the trailing 'p' for persistent is

malloc(1/0) ??

2000-11-06 Thread RAJESH BALAN
hi, why does this program works. when executed, it doesnt give a segmentation fault. when the program requests memory, is a standard chunk is allocated irrespective of the what the user specifies. please explain. main() { char *s; s = (char*)malloc(0); strcpy(s,"f");

kernel

2000-11-06 Thread Joe Harrington
Sorry about the question to do with visuall gcc. Alot of people seemed to get a intolerable response to my question. The reason I posted it here was a) I am lazy, b) On all the sites to do with Kdevelop the download links are down, and c) I wanted to use the program to compile such files as

Re: [PATCH] document ECN in 2.4 Configure.help

2000-11-06 Thread David S. Miller
From: Bernd Eckenfels <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Date:Tue, 07 Nov 2000 03:38:35 +0100 Because this will add a Fallback (non ECN) packet to every denied target. I think this is bad policy at least. It might violate the RFCs, too. Keep in mind, we cannot recognice a rejection due

Re: Poor TCP Performance 2.4.0-10 <-> Win98 SE PPP

2000-11-06 Thread Jordan Mendelson
Jordan Mendelson wrote: > > We are seeing a performance slowdown between Windows PPP users and > servers running 2.4.0-test10. Attached is a tcpdump log of the > connection. The machines is without TCP ECN support. The Windows machine > is running Windows 98 SE 4.10. A dialed up over PPP w/

Re: Pentium 4 and 2.4/2.5

2000-11-06 Thread Andre Hedrick
Not to worry, some of us are working with the 'I' guys to do proper P4 detection. Cheers, On Sat, 4 Nov 2000, Frank Davis wrote: > Hello, > I noticed that Pentium 4 isn't an config option in 2.4.0-test10. Is > someone working on a patch for the the kernel (if needed) to support the >

Re: ide-probe.c:400: `rtc_lock' undeclared and /lib/modules/..../build

2000-11-06 Thread Keith Owens
On Tue, 7 Nov 2000 01:20:36 +0100 (CET), Tomasz Motylewski <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: >2.2.18pre19: >And , whose idea was that "make modules_install" should create >/lib/modules//build symlink to the kernel sources? >It really breakes depmod -a (modutils 2.3.11)(*) > >(*) I could find a

Re: [HARDLOCK] 2.2.17 locks up hard on Ultra66/PDC20262 in DMA modewhen using ide + raid-A0 + eepro100 patches

2000-11-06 Thread Dan Browning
UPDATE: Now I have upgraded to 2.2.18pre19 + ide-2.2.18pre18 + raid-2.2.18-A2 + patched eepro100. Unfortunately, I still get: hde: dma_intr: status=0x51 { DriveReady SeekComplete Error } hde: dma_intr: error=0x10 { SectorIdNotFound }, LBAsect=15347359, sector=15347328 hde: dma_intr:

Re: 2.4.0-test10 Oops

2000-11-06 Thread Keith Owens
On Mon, 6 Nov 2000 23:03:44 +0100, Frank van Maarseveen <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: >First a firewall is installed (ppp0). Starting the network (eth0/lo only. ppp0 is >nonexistent at this point) gives the following Oops: >Nov 6 22:20:25 iapetus kernel: EIP:

Pentium 4 and 2.4/2.5

2000-11-06 Thread Frank Davis
Hello, I noticed that Pentium 4 isn't an config option in 2.4.0-test10. Is someone working on a patch for the the kernel (if needed) to support the Pentium 4 after 2.4.0 is released? Regards, Frank - To unsubscribe from this list: send the line "unsubscribe linux-kernel" in the body of a

locks.c: removal of semaphores

2000-11-06 Thread kumon
Andrew, I got 5250 Req/s with your locks-sem.patch on normal Apache. It is good performance on normal Apache. Andrew Morton writes: > Kouichi, could you please test the performance of this on > your 8-way with Apache+fcntl serialisation? (the normal > Apache). Please use 2.4.0-test10-pre5,

Re: linux 2.4.0-test9

2000-11-06 Thread Keith Owens
On Mon, 6 Nov 2000 16:31:23 -0500 (EST), "Richard B. Johnson" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: >However when running, the new kernel 2.4.0-test9, can't be used to >make a usable initrd ram disk. The result being that 2.4.0-test9 >can't, itself, build an "initrd" bootable system. > >Before everybody

Re: Calling module symbols from inside the kernel !

2000-11-06 Thread Keith Owens
On Mon, 6 Nov 2000 16:24:13 -0300, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: >Is it possible to access symbols exported by modules from inside the kernel ? Not via symbol name, the linkage goes module => kernel, not the other way round. Your module needs to register its data when it loads, then any code can

Re: [patch] NE2000

2000-11-06 Thread Andrew Morton
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: > > Hello! > > > No, that code is correct, provided (current->state == TASK_RUNNING) > > on entry. If it isn't, there's a race window which can cause > > lost wakeups. As a check you could add: > > > > if ((current->state &

Re: [PATCH] document ECN in 2.4 Configure.help

2000-11-06 Thread Bernd Eckenfels
In article <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> you wrote: > I'm still not sure why it's been decided not to do fallback or how this > whole situation is any different from path MTU discovery. Because this will add a Fallback (non ECN) packet to every denied target. I think this is bad policy at least. It might

Re: Persistent module storage [was Linux 2.4 Status / TODO page]

2000-11-06 Thread Horst von Brand
"James A. Sutherland" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> said: [...] > That only happens if the driver is stupid enough to try guessing "correct" > volume settings. It did not touch anything: By a fluke, or by default, the sound output was going full blast, and the mike input was patched over to it ==>

Poor TCP Performance 2.4.0-10 <-> Win98 SE PPP

2000-11-06 Thread Jordan Mendelson
We are seeing a performance slowdown between Windows PPP users and servers running 2.4.0-test10. Attached is a tcpdump log of the connection. The machines is without TCP ECN support. The Windows machine is running Windows 98 SE 4.10. A dialed up over PPP w/ TCP header compression. The Linux

Re: Persistent module storage [was Linux 2.4 Status / TODO page]

2000-11-06 Thread Keith Owens
On Mon, 6 Nov 2000 23:00:05 + (GMT), Paul Jakma <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: >On Mon, 6 Nov 2000, Alan Cox wrote: >> Its called modules.conf. It has all these nice preload directives in it > >cool.. > >doesn't seem to be documented though in modutils 2.3.17. what exactly >does it do? man

Re: Persistent module storage [was Linux 2.4 Status / TODO page]

2000-11-06 Thread Keith Owens
On 06 Nov 2000 11:09:41 -0700, [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Eric W. Biederman) wrote: >Well we don't have auto unload. Check crontab, if it contains rmmod -a then you have auto unload. - To unsubscribe from this list: send the line "unsubscribe linux-kernel" in the body of a message to [EMAIL PROTECTED]

Re: Persistent module storage [was Linux 2.4 Status / TODO page]

2000-11-06 Thread Horst von Brand
Martin Mares <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> said: [...] > I think that automatic loading / unloading of modules has been a terrible hack > since its first days (although back in these times a useful one) and that the > era of its usefulness is over. There are zillions of problems with this > mechanism,

Re: Persistent module storage [was Linux 2.4 Status / TODO page]

2000-11-06 Thread Horst von Brand
Oliver Xymoron <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> say: [...] > Ioctl (or alternate device for plan9 groupies) is fine. My point is final > initialization of the device is obviously delayed until the firmware is > loaded. Let's play perverse: What if I load the module, but don't initialize the firmware, then

Re: Persistent module storage [was Linux 2.4 Status / TODO page]

2000-11-06 Thread Horst von Brand
David Woodhouse <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> said: [...] > No. You should initialise the hardware completely when the driver is > reloaded. Although the expected case is that the levels just happen to be > the same as the last time the module was loaded, you can't know that the > machine hasn't been

Re: Persistent module storage [was Linux 2.4 Status / TODO page]

2000-11-06 Thread Horst von Brand
David Woodhouse <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> said: > [EMAIL PROTECTED] said: > > No funny "persistent data" mechanisms or screwups when the worker > > gets removed and reinserted. In many cases the data module could be > > shared among several others, in other cases it would have to be able > > lo load

Re: Persistent module storage [was Linux 2.4 Status / TODO page]

2000-11-06 Thread Horst von Brand
"James A. Sutherland" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> said: > On Mon, 06 Nov 2000, Horst von Brand wrote: [...] > > The problem (AFAIU) is that if the levels aren't set on startup, they are > > random in some cases. > So set them on startup. NOT when the driver is first loaded. Put it in > the rc.d

Re: Persistent module storage [was Linux 2.4 Status / TODO page]

2000-11-06 Thread Gerhard Mack
> Then none of this is relevant to you, since you can't unload any modules! And > now you're the one doing the trolling... WTF do you think module code is > supposed to do when you don't use modules?! > Simple ... I'd rather the hardware was set to 0 on startup but I know what problems that

Comprehensive list of locks available?

2000-11-06 Thread Rick Lindsley
Now that we've taken to heart the "one lock does not fit all" and we made the kernel increasingly fine-grained with regards to locking, there are many more locks appearing in the code. While Linux does not currently support hierarchical locks, it is still true that the order in which you acquire

Re: Persistent module storage [was Linux 2.4 Status / TODO page]

2000-11-06 Thread James A . Sutherland
On Tue, 07 Nov 2000, Gerhard Mack wrote: > On Tue, 7 Nov 2000, James A. Sutherland wrote: > > > On Mon, 06 Nov 2000, Gerhard Mack wrote: > > > Sure .. lets see you start a laptop in class or buisness meeting and have > > > everyone turn to look at you wondering why your laptop let off an ear > >

Re: Persistent module storage [was Linux 2.4 Status / TODO page]

2000-11-06 Thread James A . Sutherland
On Tue, 07 Nov 2000, Alan Cox wrote: > > changing settings. If I plug in a hotplug soundcard and load the driver, I do > > NOT want the driver to decide to set some settings. If I want settings set, > > I'll do it myself (or have a script to do it). > > How about if your stuff is already nicely

Re: Persistent module storage [was Linux 2.4 Status / TODO page]

2000-11-06 Thread Gerhard Mack
On Tue, 7 Nov 2000, James A. Sutherland wrote: > On Mon, 06 Nov 2000, Gerhard Mack wrote: > > Sure .. lets see you start a laptop in class or buisness meeting and have > > everyone turn to look at you wondering why your laptop let off an ear > > piercing shreak because the hardware defaults to

Re: current snapshots of pcmcia

2000-11-06 Thread David Ford
David Hinds wrote: > Incidentally, the i82365 module should work ok (using ISA interrupts) > despite the "No IRQ known" messages. The Yenta driver won't work at > all if PCI interrupts aren't set up. So I guess another question > would be, what card(s) are you using and how are they

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Re: Persistent module storage [was Linux 2.4 Status / TODO page]

2000-11-06 Thread James A . Sutherland
On Mon, 06 Nov 2000, Gerhard Mack wrote: > On Mon, 6 Nov 2000, James A. Sutherland wrote: > > > Except this isn't possible with the hardware in question! If it were, there > > would be no problem. In cases where the hardware doesn't support the > > functionality userspace "needs", why put the

Re: current snapshots of pcmcia

2000-11-06 Thread David Hinds
Incidentally, the i82365 module should work ok (using ISA interrupts) despite the "No IRQ known" messages. The Yenta driver won't work at all if PCI interrupts aren't set up. So I guess another question would be, what card(s) are you using and how are they misbehaving? -- Dave - To unsubscribe

Re: Persistent module storage [was Linux 2.4 Status / TODO page]

2000-11-06 Thread Alan Cox
> changing settings. If I plug in a hotplug soundcard and load the driver, I do > NOT want the driver to decide to set some settings. If I want settings set, > I'll do it myself (or have a script to do it). How about if your stuff is already nicely set up and you remove then replug a device, or

Re: xterm: no available ptys

2000-11-06 Thread H. Peter Anvin
Followup to: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> By author:Igmar Palsenberg <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> In newsgroup: linux.dev.kernel > > I'm missing ptmx. You NEED a writable /dev/pts dir. > Actually, what you need is the devpts filesystem mounted onto /dev/pts. -hpa -- <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> at work,

Re: Persistent module storage [was Linux 2.4 Status / TODO page]

2000-11-06 Thread James A . Sutherland
On Mon, 06 Nov 2000, Evan Jeffrey wrote: > > On Mon, 06 Nov 2000, David Woodhouse wrote: > > > > > > No. You have to reset the hardware fully each time you load the module. > > > Although you _expect_ it to be in the state in which you left it, you can't > > > > > be sure of that. > > > >

[PATCH] VCD support for isofs

2000-11-06 Thread Chih-Chung Chang
Attached patches add VCD support in isofs. Against 2.2.16 and 2.4.0-test10. diff -ur isofs.orig/file.c isofs/file.c --- isofs.orig/file.c Mon Mar 8 07:25:23 1999 +++ isofs/file.cTue Nov 7 08:07:57 2000 @@ -54,3 +54,24 @@ NULL, /* truncate */

Re: ide-probe.c:400: `rtc_lock' undeclared and /lib/modules/..../build

2000-11-06 Thread Mark Cooke
On Tue, 7 Nov 2000, Tomasz Motylewski wrote: > 2.2.18pre19: > ide-probe.c:400: `rtc_lock' undeclared (first use this function) > ide-probe.c:400: (Each undeclared identifier is reported only once > ide-probe.c:400: for each function it appears in.) See the attached patch. Just declares it as

PCI oddness with Ali 1541 chipset

2000-11-06 Thread Erik Mouw
Hi, I'm running 2.4.0-test10 on my desktop machine. The system works perfectly well, but I get some strange PCI messages at boot time. Here is part it: PCI: PCI BIOS revision 2.10 entry at 0xf0560, last bus=1 PCI: Using configuration type 1 PCI: Probing PCI hardware Unknown bridge

Re: current snapshots of pcmcia

2000-11-06 Thread Jeff V. Merkey
David Hinds wrote: > > On Mon, Nov 06, 2000 at 04:45:52PM -0700, Jeff V. Merkey wrote: > > > > On a related topic, I've pulled down your stuff at sourceforge and we > > are using it for our 2.4 build. Is this the baest place or do you have > > somewhere more recent and is this the list to

Re: current snapshots of pcmcia

2000-11-06 Thread David Ford
David Hinds wrote: > On Mon, Nov 06, 2000 at 03:19:41PM -0800, David Ford wrote: > > > > Undoubtedly :( But it used to work when I used your i82365 module instead of > > the kernel's yenta module. The i82365 module now gives the same failure > > output as the yenta module. > > How long ago was

ide-probe.c:400: `rtc_lock' undeclared and /lib/modules/..../build

2000-11-06 Thread Tomasz Motylewski
2.2.18pre19: /usr/bin/gcc272 -D__KERNEL__ -I/home/22/linux/include -Wall -Wstrict-prototypes -O2 -fomit-frame-pointer -D__SMP__ -pipe -fno-strength-reduce -m486 -malign-loops=2 -malign-jumps=2 -malign-functions=2 -DCPU=586 -c -o fork.o fork.c ide-probe.c: In function `probe_cmos_for_drives':

Re: Persistent module storage [was Linux 2.4 Status / TODO page]

2000-11-06 Thread James A . Sutherland
On Mon, 06 Nov 2000, Dan Hollis wrote: > On Mon, 6 Nov 2000, James A. Sutherland wrote: > > So autoload the module with a "dont_screw_with_mixer" option. When the kernel > > first boots, initialise the mixer to suitable settings (load the module with > > "do_screw_with_mixer" or whatever);

Re: ping -f kills ne2k (was:[patch] NE2000)

2000-11-06 Thread Jorge Nerin
Paul Gortmaker wrote: > > > > > Well, I have tried it with 2.4.0-test10, both SMP and non-SMP, and the > > result is a little confusing. > > > > Under SMP a ping -s 5 -f other_host takes down the network access > > with no messages (ne2k-pci), and no possibility of being restored > > without

Another Oops with latest kernel

2000-11-06 Thread David Won
Any hints on what caused this one? Nov 6 18:28:53 phlegmish kernel: Unable to handle kernel paging request at virt ual address 9cca Nov 6 18:28:53 phlegmish kernel: c012cdd6 Nov 6 18:28:53 phlegmish kernel: *pde = Nov 6 18:28:53 phlegmish kernel: Oops: Nov 6 18:28:53

Re: Kernel 2.4.0test10 crash (RAID+SMP)

2000-11-06 Thread Ion Badulescu
[s/rutgers.edu/kernel.org/] On Tue, 7 Nov 2000 09:19:12 +1100 (EST), Neil Brown <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > On Monday November 6, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: >> If multiple interrupts are hitting a single code path (like IDE irqs 14 >> -and- 15), you definitely have to think about that. The

swapout vs. filemap_sync_pte...?

2000-11-06 Thread Jeff Garzik
The address_space::writepage callback is called from try_to_swap_out() path, and also from the filemap_sync_pte() path. There appears to be no way to tell the difference between the two callers. This is not good because the semantics are very different: "sync this page" versus "page is going

RE: USB init order dependencies.

2000-11-06 Thread Dunlap, Randy
Randy.Dunlap wrote: > > While Jeff and I basically agree on the short-term > > solution (if one is still needed, altho I'm not aware of > > any init order problems in USB in 2.4.0-test10), my > > recollection of Linus's preference (without > > looking it up) is to remove the calls from

Re: current snapshots of pcmcia

2000-11-06 Thread David Hinds
On Mon, Nov 06, 2000 at 04:45:52PM -0700, Jeff V. Merkey wrote: > > On a related topic, I've pulled down your stuff at sourceforge and we > are using it for our 2.4 build. Is this the baest place or do you have > somewhere more recent and is this the list to report bugs? We have seen > some

Re: current snapshots of pcmcia

2000-11-06 Thread Jeff V. Merkey
David [Hinds], On a related topic, I've pulled down your stuff at sourceforge and we are using it for our 2.4 build. Is this the baest place or do you have somewhere more recent and is this the list to report bugs? We have seen some problems with IBM thinkpads with DSP devices having some

Re: xterm: no available ptys

2000-11-06 Thread Igmar Palsenberg
On Mon, 6 Nov 2000, Paul Powell wrote: > Hello, > > I have created a trimmed down /dev directory to be > used with my custom bootable Linux CD. I've run into > a problem where I can't start an xterm. I get the > error... > > xterm: no available ptys > > I'm not sure which device I'm

Re: Play Kernel Hangman!

2000-11-06 Thread J. Dow
From: "Leen Besselink" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > On Mon, 6 Nov 2000, Jeff Dike wrote: > > > After a stranger than usual late-night #kernelnewbies session on Thursday, I > > was inspired to come up with Kernel Hangman. This is the traditional game of > > hangman, except that the words you have to

Re: current snapshots of pcmcia

2000-11-06 Thread David Hinds
On Mon, Nov 06, 2000 at 03:19:41PM -0800, David Ford wrote: > > Undoubtedly :( But it used to work when I used your i82365 module instead of > the kernel's yenta module. The i82365 module now gives the same failure > output as the yenta module. How long ago was this? I would need to know

2.2.18pre19 + raid-2.2.18-AX?

2000-11-06 Thread Dan Browning
I can't get raid-2.2.18-A2 to apply cleanly on 2.2.18pre19. Does anyone know of a newer raid-2.2.18preX patch? (pre18 or pre19 would be great). Here's the output I get... [root@server linux]# patch -p1 < raid-2.2.18-A2 patching file init/main.c Hunk #4 succeeded at 1631 (offset 4 lines).

Re: Persistent module storage [was Linux 2.4 Status / TODO page]

2000-11-06 Thread Gerhard Mack
On Mon, 6 Nov 2000, James A. Sutherland wrote: > Except this isn't possible with the hardware in question! If it were, there > would be no problem. In cases where the hardware doesn't support the > functionality userspace "needs", why put the kludge in the kernel? > > If userspace wants to know

Re: Announce: NFS-client & NIS-client UID/GID remapper

2000-11-06 Thread Albert D. Cahalan
The UID/GID mapper should be sepatate from the regex rewriting rules. Both should be separate from NFS, because they have little to do with NFS. These are useful generic VFS features. It would be perfectly reasonable to use these features on a Zip disk with UFS (from MacOS X maybe). Another

Re: Loadavg calculation

2000-11-06 Thread Nathan Scott
hi, As you've suggested, you'd be better off not using the load average but rather some other measure (or combination of measures) to figure out when you have enough spare cycles or bandwidth. The "pmie" tool might be useful to you - here's a contrived example I just knocked up (instead of a

Re: current snapshots of pcmcia

2000-11-06 Thread David Ford
(cc: lkml) David Hinds wrote: > On Mon, Nov 06, 2000 at 01:10:24AM -0800, David Ford wrote: > > :( > > > > Ok. Here's the story. 2.3/2.4 kernel pcmcia gave up the ghost on my > > socket controller several versions back. It is unable to assign an irq. > > PCMCIA in 2.4 (whether you build the

Re: non-gcc linux?

2000-11-06 Thread Adam Sampson
On Sun, Nov 05, 2000 at 06:01:29PM -0700, Tim Riker wrote: > In short the impact of adding code to gcc that is not copyright FSF is > minimal. Only the FSF copyrighted code would be defensible by the FSF. Any > other code GPL violations would be the responsibility of the copyright > owners to

Re: Persistent module storage [was Linux 2.4 Status / TODO page]

2000-11-06 Thread Paul Jakma
On Mon, 6 Nov 2000, Alan Cox wrote: > Its called modules.conf. It has all these nice preload directives in it cool.. doesn't seem to be documented though in modutils 2.3.17. what exactly does it do? regards, -- Paul Jakma [EMAIL PROTECTED] PGP5 key:

cramfs 2.2.x back-port

2000-11-06 Thread Pavel B Dudkin
Hello everybody, I am fairly new to the kernel programming, in fact it's my first attemt at it. As an exercise I was trying to back-port cramfs code to the 2.2.x kernel, and I seem to have succeeded! The only thing still not working are symlinks. There are 2 routines in the code,

Re: Persistent module storage [was Linux 2.4 Status / TODO page]

2000-11-06 Thread Wayne . Brown
This sounds to me like the most flexible way to do it. If the module accepts parameters then those who want the sound card initialized at every load can put the desired settings in modules.conf. The rest of us can just initialize it once at boot time and the rest of the time the settings will

Re: [patch] NE2000

2000-11-06 Thread Andrew Morton
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: > > Hello! > > > No, that code is correct, provided (current->state == TASK_RUNNING) > > on entry. If it isn't, there's a race window which can cause > > lost wakeups. As a check you could add: > > > > if ((current->state &

CONFIG_BLK_DEV_RAM_SIZE not used

2000-11-06 Thread Michael Pruznick
What's up with CONFIG_BLK_DEV_RAM_SIZE? It is set in .config by "make config", but it not used by the kernel. I checked the cvs tree and see that it was used for in a single rev of the file. Looks to me like this change may have been lost by accident. Can anyone confirm or deny? Is

[PATCH] drivers/isdn/hisax/nj_{s,u}.c fails compilation (2.4.0-test10)

2000-11-06 Thread Rasmus Andersen
Hi. If I compile a 2.4.0-test10 kernel without pci support I get a compile error in both drivers/isdn/hisax/nj_u.c and nj_s.c. The patch below fixes these in what I hope is the Right Way. But I am not sure, so Linus is not cc'ed on this. Please forward to him if the patches are correct. ---

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