Re: ANNOUNCE: Linux Kernel ORB: kORBit

2000-12-13 Thread Alexander Viro
On Thu, 14 Dec 2000, josef [iso-8859-1] höök wrote: > Chip Salzenberg wrote: > > > According to Alexander Viro: > > > 9P is quite simple and unlike CORBA it had been designed for taking > > > kernel stuff to userland. Besides, authors definitely understand > > > UNIX... > > > > As nice as 9P

Re: ANNOUNCE: Linux Kernel ORB: kORBit

2000-12-13 Thread josef höök
Chip Salzenberg wrote: > According to Alexander Viro: > > 9P is quite simple and unlike CORBA it had been designed for taking > > kernel stuff to userland. Besides, authors definitely understand > > UNIX... > > As nice as 9P is, it'll need some tweaks to work with Linux. > For example, it limits

Re: Source address selection

2000-12-13 Thread Julian Anastasov
Hello, Chris Dunlop wrote: > using the IPs on the aliases as source addresses, except of course when > an application binds to that address. > > Is there a way to do this ? ip addr add 192.168.0.1/24 brd + dev eth0 scope host ^^ default

Re: Signal 11 - the continuing saga

2000-12-13 Thread Mike Galbraith
On Wed, 13 Dec 2000, Linus Torvalds wrote: > On Wed, 13 Dec 2000, Linus Torvalds wrote: > > > > Hint: "ptep_mkdirty()". rather obvious oopsie.. once spotted. > In case you wonder why the bug was so insidious, what this caused was two > separate problems, both of them able to cause SIGSGV's.

Re: [Korbit-cvs] Re: ANNOUNCE: Linux Kernel ORB: kORBit

2000-12-13 Thread Alexander Viro
On Thu, 14 Dec 2000, Chris Lattner wrote: > > Oh, great. So we don't have to care about formatting changes. We just > > have to care about the data changes. IOW, we are shielded from the > > results of changes that should never happen in the first place. And the > > benefit being...? > > What

Re: 2.4.0-test12 randomly hangs up

2000-12-13 Thread Petr Sebor
> Maybe it's the 3.3.6. RH 7.0 comes with 4.0.1, and a newer glibc. > Perhaps try recompiling XFree86 against the latest RH 7.0 glibc (2.1.94) > and see what happens, or upgrade your XFree86 to the standard RH 7.0 > XFree86 4.0.1. > > -- > Matthew Vanecek Nope, it dies even with my handbuilt

Re: [Korbit-cvs] Re: ANNOUNCE: Linux Kernel ORB: kORBit

2000-12-13 Thread Chris Lattner
> > NO. You want leagacy program to "just get" rounded ints, and new programs > > to get the "full precision" of the floating point #'s. > What rounded ints? Rounded to zero? To nearest integer? To plus or minus > infinity? Does program have something to say here? The exact same thing that old

Re: ANNOUNCE: Linux Kernel ORB: kORBit

2000-12-13 Thread Alexander Viro
On Wed, 13 Dec 2000, Chris Lattner wrote: > > OK, now I'm completely confused. > > * which complex data structures do you want to export from the kernel > > in non-opaque way? > > * which of those structures are guaranteed to remain unchanged? > > * if you have userland-to-userlan

Re: ANNOUNCE: Linux Kernel ORB: kORBit

2000-12-13 Thread David Feuer
At 12:15 AM 12/14/2000 -0500, you wrote: >Hmm... Cutoff seems to sit somewhere around 45 - above that there are only >apt-get droppings and they definitely are over the top. Dunno, you may be >right, but looks like I never had a need to create anything that long. It's always good to be able to in

Re: ANNOUNCE: Linux Kernel ORB: kORBit

2000-12-13 Thread Alexander Viro
On Wed, 13 Dec 2000, Chip Salzenberg wrote: > As long as names are to be created, or at least understood, by humans, > there will be some limit on *usable* length. In my experience, 255 is > above that limit, but 30 is below it. And I cut my teeth on a system > that had exactly that length li

Re: 2.4.0-test12 randomly hangs up

2000-12-13 Thread Matthew Vanecek
Byron Stanoszek wrote: > > On Wed, 13 Dec 2000, Lukasz Trabinski wrote: > > > In article <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> you wrote: > > > > > I can (re)confirm that. I work several hours on console without any > > > problem ... then I start X session and after several minutes system > > > hangs. > > > > I c

Re: CORBA vs 9P

2000-12-13 Thread Chris Lattner
I think that I addressed most if not all of this email in my previous one... let me know if I missed something. -Chris btw, thanks for putting up with me, I know I can be obstinate sometimes. :) On Wed, 13 Dec 2000, Alexander Viro wrote: > > > On Wed, 13 Dec 2000, Chris Lattner wrote: >

Re: ANNOUNCE: Linux Kernel ORB: kORBit

2000-12-13 Thread Chris Lattner
> OK, now I'm completely confused. > * which complex data structures do you want to export from the kernel > in non-opaque way? > * which of those structures are guaranteed to remain unchanged? > * if you have userland-to-userland RPC in mind - why put anything > marshalling-r

Re: CORBA vs 9P

2000-12-13 Thread Alexander Viro
On Wed, 13 Dec 2000, Chris Lattner wrote: > > > Okay, so there are _stubs_ for these platforms. How many languages are > > > there bindings for? > > Grr... Let's define the terms, OK? What is available: kernel code that > > represents the client side of RPC as a filesystem. Userland clients do

Re: Adaptec AIC7XXX v 6.0.6 BETA Released

2000-12-13 Thread Justin T. Gibbs
> Date: Wed, 13 Dec 2000 20:56:08 -0700 > From: "Justin T. Gibbs" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > > None-the-less, it seems to me that spamming the kernel namespace > with "current" in at least the way that the 2.2 kernels do (does > this occur in later kernels?) should be corrected. > >Just

Re: ANNOUNCE: Linux Kernel ORB: kORBit

2000-12-13 Thread Chip Salzenberg
According to Alexander Viro: > On Wed, 13 Dec 2000, Chip Salzenberg wrote: > > According to Alexander Viro: > > > On Wed, 13 Dec 2000, Chip Salzenberg wrote: > > > > According to Alexander Viro: > > > > > 9P is quite simple and unlike CORBA it had been designed for taking > > > > > kernel stuff to

Re: 2.4.0-test12 randomly hangs up

2000-12-13 Thread Mike Galbraith
On Wed, 13 Dec 2000, Lukasz Trabinski wrote: > In article <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> you wrote: > > > I can (re)confirm that. I work several hours on console without any > > problem ... then I start X session and after several minutes system > > hangs. > > I can confirm that, too. > Todaye, crashed tw

Re: ANNOUNCE: Linux Kernel ORB: kORBit

2000-12-13 Thread Alexander Viro
On Wed, 13 Dec 2000, Chip Salzenberg wrote: > According to Alexander Viro: > > On Wed, 13 Dec 2000, Chip Salzenberg wrote: > > > According to Alexander Viro: > > > > 9P is quite simple and unlike CORBA it had been designed for taking > > > > kernel stuff to userland. Besides, authors definitel

Re: ANNOUNCE: Linux Kernel ORB: kORBit

2000-12-13 Thread Chip Salzenberg
According to Alexander Viro: > On Wed, 13 Dec 2000, Chip Salzenberg wrote: > > According to Alexander Viro: > > > 9P is quite simple and unlike CORBA it had been designed for taking > > > kernel stuff to userland. Besides, authors definitely understand > > > UNIX... > > > > As nice as 9P is, it'

Re: ANNOUNCE: Linux Kernel ORB: kORBit

2000-12-13 Thread Alexander Viro
On Wed, 13 Dec 2000, Chris Lattner wrote: > Which is exactly why it doesn't work well for many applications. The > problem is this: how do you get from a byte stream to a structured data > stream? There are many answers: > > 1. Keep your data structures so simple, that it's obvious. Not a g

Source address selection

2000-12-13 Thread Chris Dunlop
Hi, In 2.2.x and/or 2.4.x, is there any way of preventing IP address[es] attached to interface aliases being selected as a source address when userland code creates a socket without binding to a particular address ? >From Documentation/proc.txt: /proc/sys/net/ipv4/conf/hidden Hide addresse

Re: CORBA vs 9P

2000-12-13 Thread Chris Lattner
> > Okay, so there are _stubs_ for these platforms. How many languages are > > there bindings for? > Grr... Let's define the terms, OK? What is available: kernel code that > represents the client side of RPC as a filesystem. Userland clients do > not know (or care) about the mechanisms involved.

Re: Adaptec AIC7XXX v 6.0.6 BETA Released

2000-12-13 Thread David S. Miller
Date:Wed, 13 Dec 2000 20:56:08 -0700 From: "Justin T. Gibbs" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> None-the-less, it seems to me that spamming the kernel namespace with "current" in at least the way that the 2.2 kernels do (does this occur in later kernels?) should be corrected. Justin, "cu

Re: swapoff/on leak test12-pre7

2000-12-13 Thread Mike Galbraith
On Sat, 9 Dec 2000, Mike Galbraith wrote: > Hi, > > Stumbled over a small leak.. and some funny looking numbers. Numbers aren't funny looking.. bad eyeballs. > while true; do swapoff -a; swapon -a; done Leak is because the page allocated in swapon has buffers. Since it's not on any list, t

Re: ANNOUNCE: Linux Kernel ORB: kORBit

2000-12-13 Thread Alexander Viro
On Wed, 13 Dec 2000, Chip Salzenberg wrote: > According to Alexander Viro: > > 9P is quite simple and unlike CORBA it had been designed for taking > > kernel stuff to userland. Besides, authors definitely understand > > UNIX... > > As nice as 9P is, it'll need some tweaks to work with Linux.

Re: [Korbit-cvs] Re: ANNOUNCE: Linux Kernel ORB: kORBit

2000-12-13 Thread Alexander Viro
On Wed, 13 Dec 2000, Chris Lattner wrote: > > > > either. Oops, wasn't interoperability an important part of the Linux > > > kernel design? Didn't we want to use and follow and define _real_ > > > standards? > > Erm... 9P stub exists for Linux. It exists for FreeBSD. I suspect that > > it e

Re: ANNOUNCE: Linux Kernel ORB: kORBit

2000-12-13 Thread Chip Salzenberg
According to Alexander Viro: > 9P is quite simple and unlike CORBA it had been designed for taking > kernel stuff to userland. Besides, authors definitely understand > UNIX... As nice as 9P is, it'll need some tweaks to work with Linux. For example, it limits filenames to 30 characters; that's n

Re: ANNOUNCE: Linux Kernel ORB: kORBit

2000-12-13 Thread Chris Lattner
> > > plan-9.bell-labs.com/sys/man/ > Arrgh. s/plan-9/plan9/. My apologies. Cool, thanks, will read. :) > IDGI. What 9P gives is an RPC mechanism that uses normal (as in "named streams > of characters") representation on the client side and very light-weight > library on the server side. It loo

Re: ANNOUNCE: Linux Kernel ORB: kORBit

2000-12-13 Thread Alexander Viro
On Wed, 13 Dec 2000, Chris Lattner wrote: > > plan-9.bell-labs.com/sys/man/ Arrgh. s/plan-9/plan9/. My apologies. > Err... yeah, so you're effectively mapping UNIX/POSIX across 9P. That's > not very creative, and you could do the same thing with CORBA. I ask > again, "How much development i

Re: [PATCH] bsd-style cursor

2000-12-13 Thread Markus Gutschke
Lennert Buytenhek wrote: > On Wed, 13 Dec 2000, James Simmons wrote: > > How about placing > > echo '\033[?17;120c' > > In one of your startup scripts. This will give you this nice BSD > > cursor you like. > > [ buytenh@mara buytenh]$ tail -1 ~/.bash_profile > echo -e -n '\033[?17;127c' >

Re: Signal 11 - the continuing saga

2000-12-13 Thread Mike Galbraith
On Wed, 13 Dec 2000, Linus Torvalds wrote: > On Wed, 13 Dec 2000, Mike Galbraith wrote: > > > > Not in my test tree. Same fault, and same trace leading up to it. no > > Ok. > > It definitely looks like a swapoff() problem. > > Have you ever seen the behaviour without running swapoff? No. >

Re: Adaptec AIC7XXX v 6.0.6 BETA Released

2000-12-13 Thread Justin T. Gibbs
>Thanks for posting this. Unfortunately, the kernel won't build unless you >restore this macro to the namespace after aic7xxx_linux.h blows it away: > >--- linux-2.2.18/drivers/scsi/hosts.c.orig Wed Dec 13 20:27:34 2000 >+++ linux-2.2.18/drivers/scsi/hosts.c Wed Dec 13 20:26:22 2000 >@@ -137

Re: [Korbit-cvs] Re: ANNOUNCE: Linux Kernel ORB: kORBit

2000-12-13 Thread Chris Lattner
> > either. Oops, wasn't interoperability an important part of the Linux > > kernel design? Didn't we want to use and follow and define _real_ > > standards? > Erm... 9P stub exists for Linux. It exists for FreeBSD. I suspect that > it exists for other *BSD too - never checked that. Okay, so

Re: test12 lockups -- need feedback

2000-12-13 Thread Mohammad A. Haque
Here we go folks. I hope I got everything right. The only place I have a doubt is the 0010: part of EIP. I couldn't read what I wrote there. Looks like it's ip fragment related? ksymoops 0.7c on i686 2.4.0-test11. Options used -V (default) -K (specified) -L (specified) -o /li

Re: ANNOUNCE: Linux Kernel ORB: kORBit

2000-12-13 Thread Chris Lattner
> > Err shame on you, don't forget about lcall and exceptions, and interrupts, > > and... That is technically more than _o_n_e_ "entry point". :) Oh wait, > > what about sysenter/exit too? :) > OK, you got me on lcall (however, that's iBCS-only, IIRC), but the rest... > what the hell does userl

Re: [Korbit-cvs] Re: ANNOUNCE: Linux Kernel ORB: kORBit

2000-12-13 Thread Alexander Viro
On Wed, 13 Dec 2000, Chris Lattner wrote: > > /me trims down CC list... > > > Local? Funny. It lives atop of TCP or IL quite fine. What's > > even funnier, I can use it to export /proc from CPU server to workstation > > and use _that_ for remote debugging. Ditto for window system. Ditto f

Re: ANNOUNCE: Linux Kernel ORB: kORBit

2000-12-13 Thread Michael Rothwell
> Also, 9P is a general communications framework only in the context of > Plan9 itself. In reality it only applys directly/well to filesystem > related issues... the reason it works well in Plan9 is that _everything_ > is a file (part of the beauty of plan9). So... in a 9P-enabled system, you w

Re: IP ID == 0 ?!

2000-12-13 Thread adrian
Hello, On Thu, 14 Dec 2000, Ivan Vadovic wrote: > Hi, [snip] > help here. Did I forget to configure something? Did you configure IP: TCP Explicit Congestion Notification support? If so, this breaks some older firewalls, which probably won't be updated any time soon. Regards, Adrian - To u

Re: ANNOUNCE: Linux Kernel ORB: kORBit

2000-12-13 Thread Alexander Viro
On Wed, 13 Dec 2000, Chris Lattner wrote: > > > Err... how about this: Give me two or three kORBit syscalls and I can get > > > rid of all the other 100+ syscalls! :) > > > Like it ioctl() does it? Number of entry points is _not_ an issue. Diversity > > of the API is. Technically, kernel ha

Re: IP ID == 0 ?!

2000-12-13 Thread David S. Miller
Date:Thu, 14 Dec 2000 04:11:09 +0100 From: Ivan Vadovic <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> I've been having weird problems with 2.4 kernels ip networking. I can't connect to several sites ( hotmail.com,intel.com... ). After some investigation with tcpdump I figured that the IDentification

Re: [Korbit-cvs] Re: ANNOUNCE: Linux Kernel ORB: kORBit

2000-12-13 Thread Chris Lattner
/me trims down CC list... > Local? Funny. It lives atop of TCP or IL quite fine. What's > even funnier, I can use it to export /proc from CPU server to workstation > and use _that_ for remote debugging. Ditto for window system. Ditto for > DNS. Ditto for plumber. No, not on Linux... No no

IP ID == 0 ?!

2000-12-13 Thread Ivan Vadovic
Hi, I've been having weird problems with 2.4 kernels ip networking. I can't connect to several sites ( hotmail.com,intel.com... ). After some investigation with tcpdump I figured that the IDentification field of every outgoing ip packet is set to zero and then it doesn't get through some few fire

Re: ANNOUNCE: Linux Kernel ORB: kORBit

2000-12-13 Thread Chris Lattner
> > I do have one sensible question. Given that corba is while flexible a > > relatively expensive encoding system, wouldn't it be better to keep corba > > out of kernel space and talk something which is a simple and cleaner encoding > p9fs exists. I didn't see these patches since August, but

Re: 2.4.0-test12 randomly hangs up

2000-12-13 Thread Byron Stanoszek
On Wed, 13 Dec 2000, Lukasz Trabinski wrote: > In article <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> you wrote: > > > I can (re)confirm that. I work several hours on console without any > > problem ... then I start X session and after several minutes system > > hangs. > > I can confirm that, too. > Todaye, crashed tw

Re: [Korbit-cvs] Re: ANNOUNCE: Linux Kernel ORB: kORBit

2000-12-13 Thread Alexander Viro
On Wed, 13 Dec 2000, Chris Lattner wrote: > CORBA, today, gives us superior interoperability (through IIOP), with > extensibility for the future. As Alexander Viro mentions, 9P may be a > better protocol for local communications... Local? Funny. It lives atop of TCP or IL quite fine.

Re: test12 lockups -- need feedback

2000-12-13 Thread Mohammad A. Haque
Ok, got locked up. Dropped me into kdb and I was able to write down the oops after doing a ss on btp 0. I'll try to have something posted in an hour. On Wed, 13 Dec 2000, Mohammad A. Haque wrote: > At first I thought it was just me when I reported the lockups I was > having with test12 earlier

Re: ANNOUNCE: Linux Kernel ORB: kORBit

2000-12-13 Thread Michael Rothwell
Alexander Viro wrote: > p9fs exists. I didn't see these patches since August, but probably I can poke > Roman into porting it to the current tree. 9P is quite simple and unlike > CORBA it had been designed for taking kernel stuff to userland. Besides, > authors definitely understand UNIX... I

Re: ANNOUNCE: Linux Kernel ORB: kORBit

2000-12-13 Thread Chris Lattner
> > Err... how about this: Give me two or three kORBit syscalls and I can get > > rid of all the other 100+ syscalls! :) > Like it ioctl() does it? Number of entry points is _not_ an issue. Diversity > of the API is. Technically, kernel has 1 (_o_n_e_) entry point as far as > userland is conc

Re: [Korbit-cvs] Re: ANNOUNCE: Linux Kernel ORB: kORBit

2000-12-13 Thread Chris Lattner
> > Don't worry about kORBit. Like most open source projects, it will simply > > die out after a while, because people don't find it interesting and there > > is really no place for it. If it becomes useful, mature, and refined, > > however, it could be a very powerful tool for a large class of

VM problems still in 2.2.18

2000-12-13 Thread Mark Symonds
Hi, I upgraded from 2.2.14 to 2.2.16 after the security bug was discovered. Ever since, I have two boxes here that keep falling over. Box A will randomly lock without warning and box B will die and start printing this message repeatedly on the screen until I physically hit reset: VM: do_tr

Re: 2.2.18-25 DELL Laptop Video Problems

2000-12-13 Thread Petr Konecny
On Wed, Dec 13, 2000 at 01:34:46AM +0100, Dominik Kubla wrote: > On Mon, Dec 11, 2000 at 11:11:41AM -0700, Jeff V. Merkey wrote: > ... > > Then this is the vga=271 stuff? > > > > Jeff > > No, that's just selecting the VGA resolution. I am referring to the > video parameter: > > video=:[,,...] > >

Re: Pthreads, linux, gdb, oh my! (and ptrace must die!)

2000-12-13 Thread David Wagner
Mike Coleman wrote: >My limited mental abilities notwithstanding, I think this is one more reason >to ditch ptrace for a better method of process tracing/control. It's served >up to this point, but ptrace has a fundamental flaw, which is that it tries to >do a lot of interprocess signalling and

Re: ANNOUNCE: Linux Kernel ORB: kORBit

2000-12-13 Thread Alexander Viro
On Wed, 13 Dec 2000, Chris Lattner wrote: > Err... how about this: Give me two or three kORBit syscalls and I can get > rid of all the other 100+ syscalls! :) Like it ioctl() does it? Number of entry points is _not_ an issue. Diversity of the API is. Technically, kernel has 1 (_o_n_e_) entr

Re: test12: eth0 trasmit timed out after one hour uptime

2000-12-13 Thread James Stevenson
Hi i may have also had some problems with this when i was connected to the net though ppp (most of the night) so far in about 6 hours it has stoped transmitting 2 times but still recives it is fine after i disconnect and reconnect i will try and get it to stop working with heavry disk io BTW this

Re: ANNOUNCE: Linux Kernel ORB: kORBit

2000-12-13 Thread Alexander Viro
On Thu, 14 Dec 2000, Alan Cox wrote: > > Don't worry about kORBit. Like most open source projects, it will simply > > die out after a while, because people don't find it interesting and there > > is really no place for it. If it becomes useful, mature, and refined, > > however, it could be a

Re: [PATCH] bsd-style cursor

2000-12-13 Thread Lennert Buytenhek
On Wed, 13 Dec 2000, James Simmons wrote: > > included a patch against 2.4.0-test9 (should apply against latest but > > haven't checked) which adds the config option to have a bsd-style cursor > > in VT's by default. I was hoping it might be considered for inclusion so > > that I don't have to

Re: [PATCH] bsd-style cursor

2000-12-13 Thread James Simmons
> included a patch against 2.4.0-test9 (should apply against latest but > haven't checked) which adds the config option to have a bsd-style cursor > in VT's by default. I was hoping it might be considered for inclusion so > that I don't have to patch it in myself every time :-) How about placing

Re: test12: eth0 trasmit timed out after one hour uptime

2000-12-13 Thread Joseph Cheek
well, it seems to be working fine now, so i guess it was a fluke. Michael Peddemors wrote: > On Wed, 13 Dec 2000, Joseph Cheek wrote: > > 00:0e.0 Ethernet controller: 3Com Corporation 3c905B 100BaseTX [Cyclone] > > (rev 30) > > Hmm, maybe I thru it out too fast.. 3Com905B -TXNM XL PCI SN=6xb1b85

Re: Adaptec AIC7XXX v 6.0.6 BETA Released

2000-12-13 Thread Steven N. Hirsch
On Wed, 13 Dec 2000, Justin T. Gibbs wrote: > Subject: Adaptec AIC7XXX v6.0.6 BETA Released > --- > After several months of testing and refinement, the Adaptec > sponsored aic7xxx driver is now entering Beta testing. Although > still missing domain validation and the last bits of cardbus >

Re: test12: eth0 trasmit timed out after one hour uptime

2000-12-13 Thread Michael Peddemors
On Wed, 13 Dec 2000, Joseph Cheek wrote: > 00:0e.0 Ethernet controller: 3Com Corporation 3c905B 100BaseTX [Cyclone] > (rev 30) Hmm, maybe I thru it out too fast.. 3Com905B -TXNM XL PCI SN=6xb1b85caf -- Michael Peddemors - Senior Consultan

Re: test12: eth0 trasmit timed out after one hour uptime

2000-12-13 Thread Michael Peddemors
I wasted time trying to track something similar down, replaced the card instead :> My first clue was when smacking the box, it started working again... (j/k) You didna' mention the card type ... On Wed, 13 Dec 2000, Joseph Cheek wrote: > hi all, > > after about an hour of uptime [and heavy HD

Re: test12 lockups -- need feedback

2000-12-13 Thread dep
On Wednesday 13 December 2000 19:29, Mikael Djurfeldt wrote: | > I downloaded the full test12 and have lockups after using X | > (upstream version 4.0.1Z) 15-45 mins. For me, SysRq+u works, but | > if I then press SysRq+b, nothing happens. There are no signs in | > the syslog. | | I should add

Re: ANNOUNCE: Linux Kernel ORB: kORBit

2000-12-13 Thread Alan Cox
> Don't worry about kORBit. Like most open source projects, it will simply > die out after a while, because people don't find it interesting and there > is really no place for it. If it becomes useful, mature, and refined, > however, it could be a very powerful tool for a large class of problems

Re: ANNOUNCE: Linux Kernel ORB: kORBit

2000-12-13 Thread Chris Lattner
> > > It was just an example. Basically, you'd be able to do in with just > > > about any language that has ORBit bindings. > Agree. I remember a big complaint about Windows was the huge APIs, > compared with Unix' tiny list of syscalls. And then I saw the GNOME > docs... ew! Err... how about

Re: insmod problem after modutils upgrading

2000-12-13 Thread Alan Cox
> Well, if it is going to take that long to fix 2.2 ... modutils 2.3.23 It may do. 2.2.18 took a long time. > will make this a semi-warning. modules with invalid MODULE_PARM for > options that are not used will load, but the module will not support > persistent data. If somebody actually trie

Re: test12 lockups -- need feedback

2000-12-13 Thread Mikael Djurfeldt
Mikael Djurfeldt <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > "Mohammad A. Haque" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > > > Those of you who are having lockups, was test12 compiled from a patched > > tree that you've previously compiled? > > I downloaded the full test12 and have lockups after using X (upstream > vers

[PATCH] Maestro 2 sound driver update.

2000-12-13 Thread Daniel Pittman
The attached patch, against 2.4.0-test12, makes some changes to the Maestro 2 sound driver for Linux. The main changes are: * allow multiple opens of /dev/dsp * support persistent DMA buffer allocation * default number of channels at compile time * support kernel command line arguments The multi

Re: test12 lockups -- need feedback

2000-12-13 Thread Mikael Djurfeldt
"Mohammad A. Haque" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > Those of you who are having lockups, was test12 compiled from a patched > tree that you've previously compiled? I downloaded the full test12 and have lockups after using X (upstream version 4.0.1Z) 15-45 mins. For me, SysRq+u works, but if I the

[PATCH] ver_linux+kgcc

2000-12-13 Thread J . A . Magallon
Hello. In short: scripts/ver_linux can lie about the cc version used to build kernel. With recent add for the detection of gcc727, kgcc anc cc, kernel can be compiled with one cc and ver_linux report one other. This can help people reporting hangs or bugs, because usually give the output of ver_

Re: insmod problem after modutils upgrading

2000-12-13 Thread Keith Owens
On Wed, 13 Dec 2000 22:13:29 + (GMT), Alan Cox <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: >> previously because nobody used those options. Since these are bugs in >> the modules and only a few modules are affected (less than 5 reported), >> the fix is to correct the modules that have coding errors. > >That

Re: test1[12] + sparc + bind 9.1.0b1 == bad things

2000-12-13 Thread Pete Toscano
On Wed, 13 Dec 2000, Pete Zaitcev wrote: > > Is this the first OOPS it prints out? I don't think so. I am > > very sure it printed out messages from die_if_kernel first and > > we need that initial OOPS to diagnose this bug and fix it. > > > > All the rest of the OOPS messages are useless a

Re: test12 + initrd = swapper at 99.8% CPU time

2000-12-13 Thread Marcelo Tosatti
On Wed, 13 Dec 2000, Joseph Cheek wrote: > hi all, > > i'm using test12 to perform a clean linux install. as soon as i get to > a command prompt, ps axufw shows swapper at 99.8% CPU usage. this > didn't repro with test11, and doesn't repro if i don't use an initrd. > > my load avg stays abo

[PATCH] bsd-style cursor

2000-12-13 Thread Lennert Buytenhek
Hi, included a patch against 2.4.0-test9 (should apply against latest but haven't checked) which adds the config option to have a bsd-style cursor in VT's by default. I was hoping it might be considered for inclusion so that I don't have to patch it in myself every time :-) cheers, Lennert -

Re: linux ipv6 questions. bugs?

2000-12-13 Thread Pete Toscano
ugh, bad form, i know, but i forgot this little dollop of information: it looks like the incorrectly mac addressed n.s. packets are being fed right back into the linux box's ip stack (as it sees an ethernet packet with the destination set to its own mac address): [root@nsv6 /root]# ping6 X:Y::1

Re: [BUG] raid5 crash with 2.4.0-test12 [Was: Linux-2.4.0-test12]

2000-12-13 Thread Neil Brown
On Tuesday December 12, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: > > > On Wed, 13 Dec 2000, Neil Brown wrote: > > > > Yes... you are right. Alright, I can't escape it any other way so I > > guess I must admit that it is a raid5 bug. > > > > But how can raid5 be calling b_end_io on a buffer_head that was nev

Re: test1[12] + sparc + bind 9.1.0b1 == bad things

2000-12-13 Thread Pete Zaitcev
> Is this the first OOPS it prints out? I don't think so. I am > very sure it printed out messages from die_if_kernel first and > we need that initial OOPS to diagnose this bug and fix it. > > All the rest of the OOPS messages are useless and won't tell > us what the real problem is. > Late

Re: [patch] 2.4.0-test12:

2000-12-13 Thread Tim Waugh
On Wed, Dec 13, 2000 at 11:11:55PM +0100, Andi Kleen wrote: > Perhaps it should mention that the guaranteed useful range of atomic_t > is only 24bit ? Documentation without source would rather useless if it > didn't mention such pitfalls. Does ftp://people.redhat.com/twaugh/patches/linux24/lin

IDE bugs for intel 440LX chipset in Test12?

2000-12-13 Thread safemode
All I can say right now is that enabling DMA on a 440LX chipset with 2.4.0-test12 or any other kernel I can remember has caused DMA timeout and ide-reset problems. Disabling dma on the harddrives doesn't help that much either, I still get ide resets. What I'm looking for right now is some info

Re: test12: eth0 trasmit timed out after one hour uptime

2000-12-13 Thread Mohammad A. Haque
At first I thought my lockups were HD i/o related also but then the last lockup I had happened a while after I trashed my disk but while grabbing email (ppp link). Joseph Cheek wrote: > > 00:0e.0 Ethernet controller: 3Com Corporation 3c905B 100BaseTX [Cyclone] > (rev 30) > > i've been doing a t

test12 lockups -- need feedback

2000-12-13 Thread Mohammad A. Haque
At first I thought it was just me when I reported the lockups I was having with test12 earlier this week. Now the reports are flooding. Of course, now my machine isn't locking up anymore after recompiling from a clean source tree (test5 w/ patches through test12) Now, I'm trying to determine what

Re: cramfs filesystem patch

2000-12-13 Thread Shane Nay
Daniel, > Have you done a comparison of LZO against zlib (decompression > speed/size vs. compression ratio)? It uses less RAM/CPU to decompress > at the cost of wasting storage space, but it's hard to make a decision > without real numbers. I can't do a test on speed because I haven't had time

Re: Pthreads, linux, gdb, oh my! (and ptrace must die!)

2000-12-13 Thread Mike Coleman
Mark Kettenis <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > However, the "zombie problem" is caused by the way ptrace() interacts > with clone()/exit()/wait(), which I consider to be a kernel bug. [insightful analysis omitted] I think you've hit the nail on the head, and I'm a bit frustrated that I never noticed

Re: test12: eth0 trasmit timed out after one hour uptime

2000-12-13 Thread Joseph Cheek
00:0e.0 Ethernet controller: 3Com Corporation 3c905B 100BaseTX [Cyclone] (rev 30) i've been doing a ton of compiling which has thrashed the [IDE] HD, perhaps it is related. other than that, just normal web surfing... "Mohammad A. Haque" wrote: > I just crossed the 1 day mark. What ethernet car

Re: parport1 gone in 2.2.18

2000-12-13 Thread Tim Waugh
On Wed, Dec 13, 2000 at 09:01:56PM +0100, Peter Bornemann wrote: > I have a second parport installed as a PCI-card. In earlier Linux-versions > this would lock the machine completely if parport & Co where compiled as > modules (2.2.16 and 2.2.17). Compiled into the kernel however, everything > wo

Re: test12: eth0 trasmit timed out after one hour uptime

2000-12-13 Thread Mohammad A. Haque
I just crossed the 1 day mark. What ethernet card do you have? Joseph Cheek wrote: > > hi all, > > after about an hour of uptime [and heavy HD usage] my ethernet just > died. couldn't ping a thing. syslog showed: -- = Moha

test12 + initrd = swapper at 99.8% CPU time

2000-12-13 Thread Joseph Cheek
hi all, i'm using test12 to perform a clean linux install. as soon as i get to a command prompt, ps axufw shows swapper at 99.8% CPU usage. this didn't repro with test11, and doesn't repro if i don't use an initrd. my load avg stays above 1 even if nothing [a couple gettys and a shell] is runn

[PATCH] VIA82C694X based SMP board...

2000-12-13 Thread Petr Vandrovec
Hi, after couple of hours of hacking I finally got my VIA82C694X based SMP board (Gigabyte GA-6VXD7) to work. I had to add 'udelay(300);' after sending startup ipi, before we print something to screen. Without this udelay it died at the beginning of second printk (that is, Startup point 1. wa

test12: eth0 trasmit timed out after one hour uptime

2000-12-13 Thread Joseph Cheek
hi all, after about an hour of uptime [and heavy HD usage] my ethernet just died. couldn't ping a thing. syslog showed: Dec 13 14:51:46 sanfrancisco kernel: NETDEV WATCHDOG: eth0: transmit timed out Dec 13 14:51:46 sanfrancisco kernel: eth0: transmit timed out, tx_status 00 status e680. Dec 13

Re: test12: innd bug came back?

2000-12-13 Thread Albert Cranford
And the problem started with pre8 not final. currently investigating difference pre7-pre8 Albert Linus Torvalds wrote: > > In article <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, > Alexander Viro <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > > > >On 13 Dec 2000, Henrik [ISO-8859-1] Størner wrote: > > > >> Just to add a "me too" on

Re: 2.4.0-test12 randomly hangs up

2000-12-13 Thread Lukasz Trabinski
In article <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> you wrote: > I can (re)confirm that. I work several hours on console without any > problem ... then I start X session and after several minutes system > hangs. I can confirm that, too. Todaye, crashed two difference machines One: AMD-K6 3D, 300 MHz, RH 7.0 + update

RE: Signal 11 - the continuing saga

2000-12-13 Thread Rainer Mager
Err, for those of us who aren't up to our elbows in the kernel code, is there a patch for this? Presumeably this will be rolled into 2.4.0test13 but I'd like to try it out? Also, can someone summarize the fix in English along with the expected, improved behavior (e.g. Linux will never have a signa

Re: 2.4.0-test12 randomly hangs up

2000-12-13 Thread David Riley
Martin Macok wrote: > > Hi, > after 1-3 hours with -test12 system hangs up with > - no response from mouse > - no response from keyboard (no sysrq, only sysrq+'b' works ...) > - no response from network (ICMP, TCP) > - nothing on console, nothing in logs (ie. nothing interesting or relevant >

Re: via82cxxx_audio - bad latency

2000-12-13 Thread David Riley
Paul Jakma wrote: > > hi, > > i think somethings gone wrong with via82cxxx_audio. Playing anything > through it seems to cause massive latency in apps like xmms, esd, > asmixer, etc.. anything to do with playing or mixer levels suddenly > takes a minute or more to respond. > > It didn't always

Adaptec AIC7XXX v 6.0.6 BETA Released

2000-12-13 Thread Justin T. Gibbs
daptec SCSI HBA device driver for the Linux Operating System To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] cc: Fcc: +outbox Subject: Adaptec AIC7XXX v6.0.6 BETA Released --- After several months of testing and refinement, the Adaptec sponsored aic7xxx driver is now entering Beta testing. Although still missing doma

Re: insmod problem after modutils upgrading

2000-12-13 Thread Alan Cox
> previously because nobody used those options. Since these are bugs in > the modules and only a few modules are affected (less than 5 reported), > the fix is to correct the modules that have coding errors. That wont be happening in 2.2 until 2.2.19 which probably means 6 months. If this is your

Re: [patch] 2.4.0-test12:

2000-12-13 Thread Andi Kleen
On Wed, Dec 13, 2000 at 07:23:52PM +, Tim Waugh wrote: > + * atomic_add - add integer to atomic variable > + * @i: integer value to add > + * @v: pointer of type atomic_t > + * > + * Atomically adds @i to @v. Perhaps it should mention that the guaranteed useful range of atomic_t is only 24b

Re: insmod problem after modutils upgrading

2000-12-13 Thread Keith Owens
On Wed, 13 Dec 2000 21:10:54 + (GMT), Alan Cox <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: >It is modutils. Their behaviour changed in a non back compatible way. Do not >use modutils 2.3.22 with Linux 2.2.* is the simple answer. Perhaps Keith can >make this a warning in 2.3.23 Adding persistent module data t

Re: test12: innd bug came back?

2000-12-13 Thread Linus Torvalds
In article <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, Alexander Viro <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > >On 13 Dec 2000, Henrik [ISO-8859-1] Størner wrote: > >> Just to add a "me too" on this. I didn't report when I saw it last week, >> because I was uncertain of exactly what might have caused it - I was >> booting severa

Re: test12: innd bug came back?

2000-12-13 Thread Alexander Viro
On 13 Dec 2000, Henrik [ISO-8859-1] Størner wrote: > Just to add a "me too" on this. I didn't report when I saw it last week, > because I was uncertain of exactly what might have caused it - I was > booting several different kernels at the time, including one from a > rescue disk (I was trying

Re: test12: innd bug came back?

2000-12-13 Thread Henrik Størner
In <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Anton Petrusevich <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: >Today I saw well-known "innd bug"(truncate(tm)), and my brother said >he had seen it with -test12-pre7. I don't know about -test12-pre3, >neither I nor my brother hadn't noticed it since -test10. But we could >miss it with -te

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