Re: [paperboy@g2news.com: Client Server NEWS FLASH: Linus Savages Red Hat 7.0]

2000-12-15 Thread Stephen Williams
[EMAIL PROTECTED] said: > As a producer of free software myself (Icarus Verilog) I've come to > the conclusion that the mass media is perfectly capable of turning > away the idiots that you don't really want as customers anyhow:-) Actually, I didn't intend that to go out to a public forum, as

Re: USB-related Oops in test12

2000-12-15 Thread Keith Owens
On Fri, 15 Dec 2000 15:37:29 +0100, Ingo Oeser <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: >> Trace; c01091d8 > >> Trace; c0105000 >> Trace; c0100191 > >Once again we have these two symbols on the stack. Probably spurious. Remember that ix86 show stack prints anything that looks like a kernel address,

linux-2.0.4test12: nmap reboots kernel

2000-12-15 Thread Meino Christian Cramer
hi! Using nmapfe/nmap as root locks or reboots the kernel at once. No logs, nothing... Nmap version was nmap-2.54BETA16.tar.bz2 If I can do more, please give me a hint...currently I dont know, what I can do without any log... Meino - To unsubscribe from this list: send the line

Re: [PATCH] Re: Linux 2.2.19pre1 : procfs api

2000-12-15 Thread Willy Tarreau
Hello Michael, I wonder about this patch which only fixes an Id/author but no code. It may be perfectly normal, but could also come from a mangled file in one of your trees. Just for info anyway... Cheers, Willy > diff -r -u -x CVS -x *.o linux-2.2.18pre25-VIRGIN/fs/proc/openpromfs.c

Re: [OT] Re: Linus's include file strategy redux

2000-12-15 Thread Keith Owens
On Fri, 15 Dec 2000 19:37:49 -0800 (PST), [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: >Do you have an alternative reccomendation? I've shown where the symlink >method WILL fail. You disagree that having the configured headers copied >is a workable idea. What else is there? Use the pcmcia-cs method. Ask where the

Re: [paperboy@g2news.com: Client Server NEWS FLASH: Linus Savages Red Hat 7.0]

2000-12-15 Thread Stephen Williams
[EMAIL PROTECTED] said: > FYI Guys, This just went over the wire from CSN. Might need some > damage control. ... and I wonder about the press that MSVC 6.0 got before the first few service packs got released. (Weren't there a few difficulties with MFC42.dll? Correct me if I'm wrong.) As a

Re: test13pre2 - netfilter modiles compile failure

2000-12-15 Thread Andrew Morton
"Barry K. Nathan" wrote: > > I got the same error with the ipchains-compatible netfilter compiled as > modules. This works for me: --- linux-2.4.0-test13-pre2/net/ipv4/netfilter/Makefile Sat Dec 16 14:23:48 2000 +++ linux-akpm/net/ipv4/netfilter/Makefile Sat Dec 16 15:01:23 2000 @@ -61,6

Re: test13pre2 - netfilter modiles compile failure

2000-12-15 Thread Linus Torvalds
In article <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, Barry K. Nathan <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: >I got the same error with the ipchains-compatible netfilter compiled as >modules. Compiling into the kernel instead, I also get an error. I've >included the error and my .config below. Try removing "$(ip_conntrack-objs)

Re: Linux 2.4.0-test11/12 freezes when copying large amounts of data to loop file system

2000-12-15 Thread Keith Owens
On Thu, 14 Dec 2000 14:55:59 -0500, Gerard Beekmans <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: >Every time I try to copy a specific directory to a mounted loop file system, >Linux freezes up on me. I've tried this several times and it freezes up at >the same place every time. When I copy that same directory

Re: test13pre2 - netfilter modiles compile failure

2000-12-15 Thread Barry K. Nathan
I got the same error with the ipchains-compatible netfilter compiled as modules. Compiling into the kernel instead, I also get an error. I've included the error and my .config below. -Barry K. Nathan <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> ld -m elf_i386 -r -o netfilter.o ipchains.o ip_nf_compat.o ip_nf_compat.o:

Sound (emu10k1) broken in 2.2.18

2000-12-15 Thread Dima Brodsky
Hi, The sound (emu10k1) seems to be broken under 2.2.18. If I do: cat x > /dev/dsp I get: bash: /dev/dsp: No such device But an ls -l shows: crw-rw-rw- 1 root sys 14, 3 Dec 15 21:25 dsp crw-rw-rw- 1 root sys 14, 19 Dec 15 21:25 dsp1 Same thing

Re: Problems compiling test13-pre2

2000-12-15 Thread Derek Wildstar
I got this also, but the compile worked with nfs/nfsd compiled in. Same thing with netfilters. Problem now is ACPI hung after initialization...not a hard hang (ctrl/alt/del still worked) but it was waiting for something it never got. -dwild On Sat, 16 Dec 2000, Jon Akers wrote: > Date: Sat,

Problems compiling test13-pre2

2000-12-15 Thread Jon Akers
This appears to be a problem with the Makefile changes and NFS/NFSD/lockd and module compilation. Using egcs-2.91.66, modutils version 2.3.18, GNU Make version 3.77, GNU ld version 2.10.91 (with BFD 2.10.0.33) make[1]: Leaving directory `/usr/src/linux/arch/i386/lib' cd

test13pre2 - netfilter modiles compile failure

2000-12-15 Thread Mohammad A. Haque
ld -m elf_i386 -r -o ip_nf_compat.o ipfwadm_core.o ip_fw_compat.o ip_fw_compat_redir.o ip_fw_compat_masq.o ip_conntrack_standalone.o ip_conntrack_core.o ip_conntrack_proto_generic.o ip_conntrack_proto_tcp.o ip_conntrack_proto_udp.o ip_conntrack_proto_icmp.o ip_nat_standalone.o ip_nat_rule.o

Re: Unable to boot 2.4.0-test12 (0224 AX:0212 BX:BC00 CX:5101 DX:000.)

2000-12-15 Thread Niels Kristian Bech Jensen
On Sat, 16 Dec 2000, infernix wrote: > Hi, > > After compiling 2.4.0-test12 on my (P2-266, 440LX) Debian 2.2 system (make > bzdisk), i am unable to boot the kernel. When I boot up with the floppy > disk, I do get the Loading.. screen (I think it does load completely), > but afterwards I get

What about 'kernel package'? was: Re: Linus's include file strategy redux

2000-12-15 Thread ferret
On Fri, 15 Dec 2000, richard offer wrote: > In article <91e0vj$b6alr$[EMAIL PROTECTED]> you write: > >In article <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, > >LA Walsh <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > >>It was at that > >>point, the externally compiled module "barfed", because like many modules, > >>it expected, like

Re: Linus's include file strategy redux

2000-12-15 Thread ferret
On Fri, 15 Dec 2000, J . A . Magallon wrote: > > On 2000/12/15 Werner Almesberger wrote: > > LA Walsh wrote: > > > > Exception: opaque types; there one would have to go via a __ identifier, > > i.e. > > > > /foo.h defines struct __foo ...; > > /bar.h includes /foo.h > >and

Re: Linus's include file strategy redux

2000-12-15 Thread ferret
On 15 Dec 2000, Miquel van Smoorenburg wrote: > In article <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, > LA Walsh <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > >It was at that > >point, the externally compiled module "barfed", because like many modules, > >it expected, like many externally compiled modules, that it could simply >

Re: [OT] Re: Linus's include file strategy redux

2000-12-15 Thread ferret
On Fri, 15 Dec 2000, Ingo Oeser wrote: > On Fri, Dec 15, 2000 at 09:31:57AM -0800, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: > > > Maybe you did not notice, but for months we have > > > /lib/modules/`uname -r`/build/include, which points to kernel headers, > > > and which should be used for compiling

Kernel panic: VFS: LRU block list corrupted

2000-12-15 Thread Lee Leahu
Hello all, One of my linux servers crash with a 'kernal panic: VFS: LRU block list corrupted' message on my screen. I reboot with a boot disk - it was find, then rebooted of the hard drive and it was fine. The systems is runing fine now, but i thought maybe someone on this list could explain

USB 2.4.0test13-pre1 pci latency changes to 0?! stops working

2000-12-15 Thread bert hubert
[skip to the end for syslog snippet, full dmesg and lspci -v -v -v output & .config] Hi, I'm fighting my PPro200 desktop to get it to support the USB pci card I just bought. At first the entire computer became instable but choosing CMD640 chipset support solved that problem. But now I find

Re: Linus's include file strategy redux

2000-12-15 Thread richard offer
In article <91e0vj$b6alr$[EMAIL PROTECTED]> you write: >In article <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, >LA Walsh <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: >>It was at that >>point, the externally compiled module "barfed", because like many modules, >>it expected, like many externally compiled modules, that it could simply

mga_dma.c, i810_dma.c error

2000-12-15 Thread Jeff Chua
I got the following errors compiling the kernel 2.4.0-test12 mga_dma.c: In function `mga_irq_install': mga_dma.c:821: structure has no member named `next' make[3]: *** [mga_dma.o] Error 1 make[3]: Leaving directory `/u2/src/linux-2.4.0/drivers/char/drm' i810_dma.c: In function

test13-pre2

2000-12-15 Thread Linus Torvalds
This is mostly still Makefile updates. Right now there are still architecture-specific Makefiles that haven't been updated, but x86 and sparc are done, along with the drivers you can enable for those architectures. Expect the other architectures to follow soonish. The other large part is the

Re: TIOCGDEV ioctl

2000-12-15 Thread Alexander Viro
On Fri, 15 Dec 2000, Linus Torvalds wrote: > Please instead do the same thing /dev/tty does, namely a sane interface > that shows it as a symlink in /proc (or even in /dev) There you go... (/proc/tty/console -> /dev/tty; may very well be dangling, but then you have a current VC even if your

[paperboy@g2news.com: Client Server NEWS FLASH: Linus Savages Red Hat 7.0]

2000-12-15 Thread Jeff V. Merkey
FYI Guys, This just went over the wire from CSN. Might need some damage control. Jeff - Forwarded message from PaperBoy <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> - Return-Path: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Received: from stmpy-1.cais.net (stmpy-1.cais.net [205.252.14.71]) by vger.timpanogas.org

Re: Signal 11gy

2000-12-15 Thread Alan Cox
> It's not in the X tree or anything, but here's a personal example. > Machine: Dual P3 550 > HDD: Dual Ultra2Wide Seagate 18GB Hdd > OS: RedHat 7 > Compile Target: Linux Kernel 2.2.17 > Result with gcc 2.96: Failure (syntax errors in the i386 branch of the > arch tree) > Result with

Re: Signal 11

2000-12-15 Thread Dan Egli
On Thu, 14 Dec 2000, Linus Torvalds wrote: > Yes. > > And I realize that somebody inside RedHat really wanted to use a snapshot > in order to get some C++ code to compile right. > > But it at the same time threw C stability out the window, by using a > not-very-widely-tested snapshot for a

Re: TIOCGDEV ioctl

2000-12-15 Thread James Simmons
> Hi Linus, Alan, > > some applications do need to know where the console (/dev/console) > actually maps to. For processes with a controlling terminal, you may see > it in /proc/$$/stat. However, daemons are supposed to run detached (they > don't want to get killed by ^C) and some processes

Re: Test12 ll_rw_block error.

2000-12-15 Thread Linus Torvalds
On Sat, 16 Dec 2000, Jeff Chua wrote: > > > Now, I also agree that we should be able to clean this up properly for > > 2.5.x, and actually do exactly this for the anonymous buffers, so that > > the VM no longer needs to worry about buffer knowledge, and fs/buffer.c > > becomes just another user

Re: TIOCGDEV ioctl

2000-12-15 Thread Linus Torvalds
On Sat, 16 Dec 2000, Kurt Garloff wrote: > > The kernel provides this information -- sort of: > It contains the TIOCTTYGSTRUCT syscall which returns a struct. Of course, > it changes between different kernel archs and revisions, so using it is > an ugly hack. Grab for TIOCTTYGSTRUCT_HACK in

Unable to boot 2.4.0-test12 (0224 AX:0212 BX:BC00 CX:5101 DX:000.)

2000-12-15 Thread infernix
Hi, After compiling 2.4.0-test12 on my (P2-266, 440LX) Debian 2.2 system (make bzdisk), i am unable to boot the kernel. When I boot up with the floppy disk, I do get the Loading.. screen (I think it does load completely), but afterwards I get this error: 0224 AX:0212 BX:BC00 CX:5101 DX:000.

Re: Test12 ll_rw_block error.

2000-12-15 Thread Jeff Chua
> Now, I also agree that we should be able to clean this up properly for > 2.5.x, and actually do exactly this for the anonymous buffers, so that > the VM no longer needs to worry about buffer knowledge, and fs/buffer.c > becomes just another user of the writepage functionality. That is not >

TIOCGDEV ioctl

2000-12-15 Thread Kurt Garloff
Hi Linus, Alan, some applications do need to know where the console (/dev/console) actually maps to. For processes with a controlling terminal, you may see it in /proc/$$/stat. However, daemons are supposed to run detached (they don't want to get killed by ^C) and some processes like init or

Re: IRQ problem? (oops in test12)

2000-12-15 Thread Bob Chiodini
Harley Anderson wrote: > Howdy again folks, I have another oops for ya's to look over... > > Yesterday when I was about to patch and build the new (test12) kernel I found > the ominous message: > Kernel panic: attempted to kill init! > Something like that anyway. No other info, just locked up

Re: lock_kernel() / unlock_kernel inconsistency Don't do this!

2000-12-15 Thread george anzinger
Alan Cox wrote: > > > Both of these methods have problems, especially with the proposed > > preemptions changes. The first case causes the thread to run with the > > BKL for the whole time. This means that any other task that wants the > > BKL will be blocked. Surly the needed protections

Re: UP 2.2.18 makes kernels 3% faster than UP 2.4.0-test12

2000-12-15 Thread george anzinger
Russell King wrote: > > Rogier Wolff writes: > > Alan Cox wrote: > > > What better interactivity ;) > > Thus to me, 2.4 FEELS much less interactive. When I move windows they > > don't follow the mouse in real-time. > > Interesting observation: in a scrolling rxvt, kernel 2.0 is smoother than >

Re: lock_kernel() / unlock_kernel inconsistency Don't do this!

2000-12-15 Thread Alan Cox
> Both of these methods have problems, especially with the proposed > preemptions changes. The first case causes the thread to run with the > BKL for the whole time. This means that any other task that wants the > BKL will be blocked. Surly the needed protections don't require this. The BKL

RE: recommended build environment

2000-12-15 Thread Dunlap, Randy
> From: Borislav Deianov [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] > > In article <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> you wrote: > >> > oWe tell vendors to build RPMv3 , glibc 2.1.x > >> Curious HOW do you tell vendors?? > > > When they ask. More usefully Dan Quinlann and most vendors > put together a > >

Re: ANNOUNCE: Linux Kernel ORB: kORBit

2000-12-15 Thread Mikulas Patocka
> > I guess that when you mmap large files over nfs and write to them, you get > > similar problems. > > > > > Oh, and try to eat atomic memory by ping -f kORBit-ized box. > > > > When linux is out of atomic memory, it will die anyway. > > Not unless your driver is broken. ok_to_allocate:

pci_match_device question

2000-12-15 Thread Jani Monoses
Hi, why is pci_match_device supposed to return a _const_ struct pci_device_id?What are the implications of defining it this way? Is it just a contract or the compiler/linker does smt special with it if its const? Sorry if the second part of the question is a bit OT. Jani - To

Re: yenta, pm, ioremap(!) problems (was: PCI irq routing..)

2000-12-15 Thread Martin Diehl
On Fri, 15 Dec 2000, Linus Torvalds wrote: > I'm surprised: "yenta_init()" will re-initialize the yenta > PCI_BASE_ADDRESS_0 register, but maybe there's something wrong there. Try right - but it is just writing back the bogus 0xe6000 thing. > adding a pci_enable_device() to turn the device on

Re: lock_kernel() / unlock_kernel inconsistency Don't do this!

2000-12-15 Thread george anzinger
Jason Wohlgemuth wrote: > > In an effort to stay consistent with the community, I migrated some code > to a driver to use the daemonize() routine in the function specified by > the kernel_thread() call. > > However, in looking at a few drivers in the system (drivers/usb/hub.c , >

recommended build environment

2000-12-15 Thread Borislav Deianov
In article <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> you wrote: >> > o We tell vendors to build RPMv3 , glibc 2.1.x >> Curious HOW do you tell vendors?? > When they ask. More usefully Dan Quinlann and most vendors put together a > recommended set of things to build with and use. It warns about library > pitfalls,

Re: Linus's include file strategy redux

2000-12-15 Thread Werner Almesberger
Joe deBlaquiere wrote: > but actually the best thing about it is > that the compiler people of the work might make generating a proper > cross-toolchain less difficult by one or two magnitudes... You have a point here ... particularly gcc-glibc interdependencies are a little irritating (not

Re: Linus's include file strategy redux

2000-12-15 Thread Werner Almesberger
J . A . Magallon wrote: > Easier: public kernel interfaces only work through pointers. Requires more elaborate wrappers or a new layer of wrapper functions around system calls, if you want to make this completely general. Also, doesn't provide FOOSIZE to "public" space. > Too

Re: Is this a compromise and how?

2000-12-15 Thread brian
Thanks for all the reponses. I happened to have /home in its own partition, so I reinstalled from scratch via CD and installed all the security updates, among a myriad of other security measures. I decided not to restore /usr/local from backups, but instead to rebuild everything in /usr/local

Re: DPMS kicks in at the wrong time

2000-12-15 Thread John Fremlin
John Summerfield <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: [...] > 3) When I then switch back to a virtual console, the screen blanks > and switches to power-saving mode. Which powersave mode? There are three, IIRC. You can tell them apart by the color of or whether the light blinks on some monitors. If

Re: Linus's include file strategy redux

2000-12-15 Thread Alex Buell
On Fri, 15 Dec 2000, Dana Lacoste wrote: > We really need a documented way to deal with this! It's getting silly > the number of questions that people ask! Please, that would be helpful - I'm still using a heavily mutated slackware 3.1 that's been hacked up to the same level (if not beyond) as

select() call crash

2000-12-15 Thread Ratko Vidakovic
Hi, Im running Redhat 6.2 i386 and Ive recently upgraded to the 2.2.17 kernel. The reason for the kernel upgrade was that the select() call in one of the programs I wrote, crashes periodically (once a day in the evening). I was wondering if anyone has heard of anything like that, and if so,

Re: [patch] 2.2.18 PCI_DEVICE_ID_OXSEMI_16PCI954

2000-12-15 Thread Bruce Korb
Lukasz Trabinski wrote: > include/linux/pci_ids.h:#define PCI_DEVICE_ID_OXSEMI_16PCI954 0x9501 > > (IMHO that is correct), but in kernel 2.2.18 we have: > (include/kernel/pci.h) > #define PCI_DEVICE_ID_OXSEMI_16PCI954PP0x9513 > ^^ > > Please

Re: bluetooth and linux

2000-12-15 Thread Greg KH
On Fri, Dec 15, 2000 at 11:53:58PM +0100, Philipp Schmid wrote: > > i'm going to buy a notebook in the near future, which supports bluetooth. > so my question is: is anyone working on bluetooth drivers or do i have to > forget about it ? There's a bluetooth USB driver already in the kernel,

Re: Linus's include file strategy redux

2000-12-15 Thread Joe deBlaquiere
Werner Almesberger wrote: > Joe deBlaquiere wrote: > >> My solution to this has always been to make a cross compiler environment > > > ;-))) I think lots of people would really enjoy to have "build a > cross-gcc" added to the prerequisites for installing some driver > module ;-) > > I

Re: Linus's include file strategy redux

2000-12-15 Thread J . A . Magallon
On 2000/12/15 Werner Almesberger wrote: > LA Walsh wrote: > > Exception: opaque types; there one would have to go via a __ identifier, > i.e. > > /foo.h defines struct __foo ...; > /bar.h includes /foo.h >and uses #define FOOSIZE sizeof(struct __foo) > /foo.h either typedef

Re: Is there a Linux trademark issue with sun?

2000-12-15 Thread Rob Landley
> I am not sure it is a big deal. If you read the > comment it was more of an off-the-cuff remark. > > I doubt anyone would testify in court that McNealy > said this. The only way it is something to worry > about is if they used it in a printed format (IANAL) Law isn't an all-or-nothing thing.

Re: strange directory problem

2000-12-15 Thread Wayne . Brown
Is anyone besides me getting multiple copies of Jeff Epler's message? I've gotten at least a couple of dozen copies of this (and another long message by Ted T'so with the subject "Re: Serial cardbus code for testing, please. ") since yesterday. They arrive once or twice an hour, all

Re: 2.2.18 signal.h

2000-12-15 Thread Andrea Arcangeli
On Fri, Dec 15, 2000 at 03:56:52PM -0600, Jesse Pollard wrote: > [..] A null expression, specified with > the ";" is a small price to pay for simplifying the error detection. [..] I'm not convinced this is a significant simplification (also considering the "hard" way is just working fine). I

Re: ANNOUNCE: Linux Kernel ORB: kORBit

2000-12-15 Thread Alan Cox
> I guess that when you mmap large files over nfs and write to them, you get > similar problems. > > > Oh, and try to eat atomic memory by ping -f kORBit-ized box. > > When linux is out of atomic memory, it will die anyway. Not unless your driver is broken. Alan - To unsubscribe from this

Re: [OT] Re: Is there a Linux trademark issue with sun?

2000-12-15 Thread Rob Landley
--- Dana Lacoste <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > I don't think he did that at all : > (Devil's Advocate time :) Always a fun occupation. :) > What he did was say that, while everyone was looking > at Linux as the solution to modern computing > problems, > he didn't need to : he already has

Non-Blocking socket (SOCK_STREAM send) - SOLVED

2000-12-15 Thread Adam Scislowicz
I Previously Wrote: > Could someone explain why send is failing with EPIPE on the 2.4.x > kernel, while it is working with the 2.2.x kernels. It turns our the socket family was not being set to AF_INET :/ It was working in 2.2.x because in our situation the sock family was being initialized to

Re: 2.2.18 signal.h

2000-12-15 Thread Jesse Pollard
- Received message begins Here - > From: Andrea Arcangeli <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > On Fri, Dec 15, 2000 at 11:18:35AM -0800, Ulrich Drepper wrote: > > Andrea Arcangeli <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > > > > > x() > > > { > > > > > > switch (1) { > > > case 0: > > > case 1: >

bluetooth and linux

2000-12-15 Thread Philipp Schmid
Gnome vs kde2: ja ich verwende kde2 auf debian, na und ? MIME-Version: 1.0 Message-Id: <00121523535800.06182@dagobert> Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit hi, i'm going to buy a notebook in the near future, which supports bluetooth. so my question is: is anyone working on bluetooth drivers or do i

lx240test12 hangs VAIO after "OK, booting the kernel"

2000-12-15 Thread Gunther Mayer
Hi, Linux-2.4.0-test12 doesn't boot on VAIO PCG-N505SN, whereas linux-2.2.10 works fine (both booted by lilo-21). It just hangs after printing: Uncompressing Linux... Ok, booting the kernel. HANG Btw. Raw bzImage booted over USB-floppy just reboots... Can this be infamous A20 again ? Regards,

test13p1 - NFS module problem

2000-12-15 Thread David Relson
Greetings, I just built test13-pre1 and have some unresolved nfs symbols. Here's the relevant portion of .config: CONFIG_NFS_FS=m CONFIG_NFS_V3=y # CONFIG_ROOT_NFS is not set CONFIG_NFSD=m CONFIG_NFSD_V3=y "make oldconfig dep bzImage modules" ran file. "make modules_install" generated the

Re: Linus's include file strategy redux

2000-12-15 Thread Werner Almesberger
Matt D. Robinson wrote: > I personally think the definition of an environment variable to point to > a header file location is the right way to go. I see two disadvantages of this, compared to a script: - need to hard-code a default (unless we assume the variables are always set) - the way

2.2.16 Q: unexpected page/buffer cache behaviour

2000-12-15 Thread Rafal Boni
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii [...please CC me on replies, as I generally only read the list via the archives...] I've asked the list before on a similar topic and haven't gotten any replies, but it's happening again with a different

RE: Linus's include file strategy redux

2000-12-15 Thread LA Walsh
> From: Werner Almesberger [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] > Sent: Friday, December 15, 2000 1:21 PM > I don't think restructuring the headers in this way would cause > a long period of instability. The main problem seems to be to > decide what is officially private and what isn't. --- If

Re: Linus's include file strategy redux

2000-12-15 Thread Werner Almesberger
Joe deBlaquiere wrote: > My solution to this has always been to make a cross compiler environment ;-))) I think lots of people would really enjoy to have "build a cross-gcc" added to the prerequisites for installing some driver module ;-) I know, it's not *that* bad. But it still adds quite a

Re: Linus's include file strategy redux

2000-12-15 Thread Miquel van Smoorenburg
In article <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, LA Walsh <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: >It was at that >point, the externally compiled module "barfed", because like many modules, >it expected, like many externally compiled modules, that it could simply >access all of it's needed files through /usr/include/linux

[patch] 2.2.18 PCI_DEVICE_ID_OXSEMI_16PCI954

2000-12-15 Thread Lukasz Trabinski
Hello I'm tring to use serial driver 5.05 with kernel in version 2.2.18. There is a little problem with vendor definition in kernel source. In serial dirver from Theodore Ts'o we have: { PCI_VENDOR_ID_SPECIALIX, PCI_DEVICE_ID_OXSEMI_16PCI954,

Re: Linux 2.2.19pre1

2000-12-15 Thread Tom Rini
On Fri, Dec 15, 2000 at 07:51:04PM +, Alan Cox wrote: > Ok this is the first block of changes before we merge the VM stuff. This is > mostly the bits left over from the 2.2.18 port that were deferred as too > risky near the end of a prerelease set and some bug swats I believe Brad Douglas

Scheduling Scalability Update

2000-12-15 Thread Mike Kravetz
The following new items have been added to the Scheduling Scalability project on SourceForge: - Description of a priority queue scheduler implementation. - Description of a multi-queue scheduler implementation. - Prototype code for the above implementations. - Preliminary benchmark results. The

Re: Is there a Linux trademark issue with sun?

2000-12-15 Thread Kevin A. Burton
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Rob Landley <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > Heads up everybody. Scott McNealy has apparently been > calling Solaris Sun's implementation of Linux. > Trademark violation time. Yeah... isn't he a moron :) > Assuming the quote is accurate (which,

Re: ANNOUNCE: Linux Kernel ORB: kORBit

2000-12-15 Thread Mikulas Patocka
> > > > For one of our demos, we ran a file server on a remote linux box (that we > > > > just had a user account on), mounted it on a kORBit'ized box, and ran > > > > programs on SPARC Solaris that accessed the kORBit'ized linux box's file > > > > syscalls. If nothing else, it's pretty nifty

Re: Linus's include file strategy redux

2000-12-15 Thread Joe deBlaquiere
My solution to this has always been to make a cross compiler environment (even if it is the same processor family). Thusly i386-linux-gcc knows that the target system's include files are in: /usr/local/-tools/i386-linux/include (/linux, /asm) The other advantage to this is that I can switch

[OT] Re: Is there a Linux trademark issue with sun?

2000-12-15 Thread Dana Lacoste
Rob Landley wrote : > Sun feels that their core product, Solaris, is > threatened by Linux. They have several options: > A) Jump on board and use Linux on their hardware. > B) Improve Solaris until it can compete on its own > merits. > C) Market Solaris better, to make people want Solaris >

Re: [Q] Remote serial ports?

2000-12-15 Thread Andreas Dilger
Jens Petersohn writes: > I have an application in which it would be useful to have access to > remote serial ports as if they where local ports. > > Machine A has several serial ports on it connected to various > special types of devices in a locked machine room. > > Developers on workstation

Re: ANNOUNCE: Linux Kernel ORB: kORBit

2000-12-15 Thread Pavel Machek
Hi! > > > For one of our demos, we ran a file server on a remote linux box (that we > > > just had a user account on), mounted it on a kORBit'ized box, and ran > > > programs on SPARC Solaris that accessed the kORBit'ized linux box's file > > > syscalls. If nothing else, it's pretty nifty what

Re: 2.2.18 signal.h

2000-12-15 Thread Michael Meissner
On Fri, Dec 15, 2000 at 07:54:33PM +0100, Andrea Arcangeli wrote: > On Fri, Dec 15, 2000 at 06:59:24PM +0100, Franz Sirl wrote: > > It's required by ISO C, and since that's the standard now, gcc spits out a > > warning. Just adding a ; is enough and already done for most stuff in > >

Re: 2.2.18 signal.h

2000-12-15 Thread Andrea Arcangeli
On Fri, Dec 15, 2000 at 06:09:16PM -0200, Rik van Riel wrote: > On Fri, 15 Dec 2000, Andrea Arcangeli wrote: > > > And yes I can see that the whole point of the change is that > > they want to also forbids this: > > > > x() > > { > > goto out; > > out: > > } > > > > and I dislike not being

Re: ANNOUNCE: Linux Kernel ORB: kORBit

2000-12-15 Thread Mikulas Patocka
Hi. > > For one of our demos, we ran a file server on a remote linux box (that we > > just had a user account on), mounted it on a kORBit'ized box, and ran > > programs on SPARC Solaris that accessed the kORBit'ized linux box's file > > syscalls. If nothing else, it's pretty nifty what you can

Re: 2.2.18 signal.h

2000-12-15 Thread Andrea Arcangeli
On Fri, Dec 15, 2000 at 05:55:08PM -0200, Rik van Riel wrote: > On Fri, 15 Dec 2000, Andrea Arcangeli wrote: > > > x() > > { > > > > switch (1) { > > case 0: > > case 1: > > case 2: > > case 3: > > ; > > } > > } > > > > Why am I required to put a `;' only in the

Re: 2.2.18 signal.h

2000-12-15 Thread Michael Meissner
On Fri, Dec 15, 2000 at 04:06:36PM -0300, Horst von Brand wrote: > "Richard B. Johnson" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> said: > > [...] > > > Both examples allow an extern declaration inside a function scope > > which is also contrary to any (even old) 'C' standards. 'extern' > > is always file

Re: 2.2.18 signal.h

2000-12-15 Thread Rik van Riel
On Fri, 15 Dec 2000, Andrea Arcangeli wrote: > And yes I can see that the whole point of the change is that > they want to also forbids this: > > x() > { > goto out; > out: > } > > and I dislike not being allowed to do the above as well infact ;). What's wrong with the - more readable -

Re: swapoff weird

2000-12-15 Thread Pavel Machek
Hi! > >[David Feuer] > > > Perhaps it would be good to put a check in unlink to make sure that > > > this is not the last link to a swapfile. > > > >Much better to add code to /sbin/swapon and /sbin/swapoff to set and > >clear immutable bit. Sure it only works on ext2 but how far do you > >want

Re: BOOTP (and DHCP) not working in 2.2.18?

2000-12-15 Thread Michael J. Dikkema
On Fri, 15 Dec 2000, Matt Bernstein wrote: > In the file net/ipv4/ipconfig.c is a variable called ic_enabled which is > initialised to zero and never set anywhere. a check is made and bootp > isn't run if its not set. Setting it to 1 before the check makes it appear > to work. If I change the

[PATCH] Re: Linux 2.2.19pre1 64-bit printk

2000-12-15 Thread Michael Rothwell
Alan Cox wrote: > Ok this is the first block of changes before we merge the VM stuff. This is > mostly the bits left over from the 2.2.18 port that were deferred as too > risky near the end of a prerelease set and some bug swats And here is the 64-bit printk patch -- a backport of the 2.4.0

[PATCH] Re: Linux 2.2.19pre1 : procfs api

2000-12-15 Thread Michael Rothwell
Alan Cox wrote: > Ok this is the first block of changes before we merge the VM stuff. This is > mostly the bits left over from the 2.2.18 port that were deferred as too > risky near the end of a prerelease set and some bug swats Here's the procfs patch again... :) Because the 2.2.18 procfs api

Re: 2.2.18 signal.h

2000-12-15 Thread Andrea Arcangeli
On Fri, Dec 15, 2000 at 11:18:35AM -0800, Ulrich Drepper wrote: > Andrea Arcangeli <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > > > x() > > { > > > > switch (1) { > > case 0: > > case 1: > > case 2: > > case 3: > > ; > > } > > } > > > > Why am I required to put a `;' only in the

Re: 2.2.18 signal.h

2000-12-15 Thread Rik van Riel
On Fri, 15 Dec 2000, Andrea Arcangeli wrote: > x() > { > > switch (1) { > case 0: > case 1: > case 2: > case 3: > ; > } > } > > Why am I required to put a `;' only in the last case and not in > all the previous ones? That `;' above is NOT in just the

Linux 2.2.19pre1

2000-12-15 Thread Alan Cox
Ok this is the first block of changes before we merge the VM stuff. This is mostly the bits left over from the 2.2.18 port that were deferred as too risky near the end of a prerelease set and some bug swats 2.2.19pre1 o Basic page aging(Neil Schemenauer)

Re: Is there a Linux trademark issue with sun?

2000-12-15 Thread Rob Landley
--- Larry McVoy <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Yup, that's Scooter (all the Sun old timers call him > Scooter, I dunno where > it came from, I wasn't enough of an old timer). > And, yeah, he does a lot > of marketing. But in many respects, he's the > perfect CEO. He's always > out in public,

Re: Linus's include file strategy redux

2000-12-15 Thread Matt D. Robinson
Werner Almesberger wrote: > > Alexander Viro wrote: > > In the situation above they should have -I/include > > in CFLAGS. Always had to. No links, no pain in ass, no interference with > > userland compiles. > > As long as there's a standard location for "", > this is fine. In most cases, the

Re: Is there a Linux trademark issue with sun?

2000-12-15 Thread Rob Landley
--- Rik van Riel <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > On Thu, 14 Dec 2000, Rob Landley wrote: > > >people just don't get it, do you? All Linux > > >applications run on Solaris, which is our > > >implementation of Linux. Now ask the question > again," > > I wouldn't worry about this. It's only a

Re: Is there a Linux trademark issue with sun?

2000-12-15 Thread Rob Landley
--- "Jon 'maddog' Hall, Executive Director, Linux International" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > [Warning: Highly controversial topic ahead. > Messenger does not want to be shot] Aw come on, it's traditional. :) > This does bring up an interesting situation. > > The Linux community keeps saying

Re: 2.2.18 signal.h

2000-12-15 Thread Ulrich Drepper
Andrea Arcangeli <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > x() > { > > switch (1) { > case 0: > case 1: > case 2: > case 3: > ; > } > } > > Why am I required to put a `;' only in the last case and not in all > the previous ones? Or maybe gcc-latest is forgetting

Re: [lkml]Re: VM problems still in 2.2.18

2000-12-15 Thread Alan Cox
> Now we know when we can block so we can run f_ops->write ourselfs that's also > more efficient in terms of both performance and also memory pressure during > swap of course. Yep > As said reiserfs AFIK didn't need any change, so only VFS is using > fs_down/fs_up from the point of view of

Re: [lkml]Re: VM problems still in 2.2.18

2000-12-15 Thread Andrea Arcangeli
On Fri, Dec 15, 2000 at 06:46:32PM +, Alan Cox wrote: > so the actual problem is either - the returning 1 when it is the wrong answer > - or the failure to block somewhere else (where its safe) based on a kpiod > maintained semaphore ? The problem is not to find a safe place where to wait,

Re: 2.2.18 signal.h

2000-12-15 Thread Horst von Brand
"Richard B. Johnson" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> said: [...] > Both examples allow an extern declaration inside a function scope > which is also contrary to any (even old) 'C' standards. 'extern' > is always file scope, there's no way to make it otherwise. AFAIR (rather dimly... no K

Re: Test12 ll_rw_block error.

2000-12-15 Thread Linus Torvalds
In article <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, Stephen C. Tweedie <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > >> What we really need is a way for VFS/VM to pass the pressure on filesystem. >> That's it. If fs wants unusual completions for requests - let it have its >> own queueing mechanism and submit these requests when it

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