Re: re. too long mac address for --mac-source netfilter option

2001-02-17 Thread Darren Tucker
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: > Jack Bowling wrote - > >> iptables v1.1.1: Bad mac address `xx:xx:xx:xx:xx:xx:xx:xx:xx:xx:xx:xx:xx:xx' > >> > >> to the respective iptable line: > >> > >> $IPT -A INPUT -p tcp -s xxx.xxx.xxx.xxx -d $NET -m mac --mac-source >xx:xx:xx:xx:xx:xx:xx:xx:xx:xx:xx:xx:xx:xx

Re: Is this the ultimate stack-smash fix?

2001-02-17 Thread Eric W. Biederman
Peter Samuelson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > [Manfred Spraul] > > > Unless you modify the ABI and pass the array bounds around you won't > > > catch such problems, > > [Eric W. Biederman] > > Of course. But this is linux and you have the source. And I did > > mention you needed to

Boot fails in Avanti AS 400 4/233, include boot log and sysrq dump

2001-02-17 Thread Rafael E. Herrera
Hello, I compiled both kernel versions 2.4.2-pre4 and 2.4.1-ac18 on my Alpha Station 400 4/233 and both stop when they are start init. I include the boot log and sysrq dumps for 2.4.1-ac18, I passed init=/bin/bash as kernel parameter. I'd appreciate any help. Thanks. -- Rafael Linux

Re: 2.4.1 crashing every other day

2001-02-17 Thread Mordechai Ovits
On Sun, Feb 18, 2001 at 02:46:30AM +0100, Andre Tomt wrote: > Very recently I installed a new mailserver for my company, based around > qmail, linux 2.4.1, and software raid 1. > It works very nicely untill it spews out oops's after a few days, leaving > hundreds of qmail-popup processes hanging,

Re: 2.4.1ac17 hang on mounting loopback fs

2001-02-17 Thread Pete Toscano
Excellent! Thanks, that worked. pete On Sat, 17 Feb 2001, Thomas Molina wrote: > On Sat, 17 Feb 2001, Pete Toscano wrote: > > > reading this, I see now why mkbootdisk was locking in the D state with > > the loop mounted... Would this also explain not being able to seek > > forward while

Re: Linux stifles innovation...

2001-02-17 Thread Ben Ford
> > On the other hand, they make excellent mice. The mouse wheel and > the new optical mice are truly innovative and Microsoft should be > commended for them. > The wheel was a nifty idea, but I've seen workstations 15 years old with optical mice. It wasn't MS's idea. -b - To unsubscribe

Re: Asus CUV4X-D mobo

2001-02-17 Thread David D.W. Downey
On Sat, 17 Feb 2001, Mark Hahn wrote: > the 0-4 drives attached to the primary controller are fundamentally > different in behavior than any other controller's drives. > Wait, when I first started in computers I found that by using the CHS count on the drive made the drives work correctly due

Re: [LONG RANT] Re: Linux stifles innovation...

2001-02-17 Thread Ben Ford
Jacob Luna Lundberg wrote: >> Speaking as a Linux _USER_, if this happens, can I get said print >> engine working on my ARM machines with these closed source drivers? >> Can Alpha users get this print system working? Can Sparc uses >> get it working? What? I can't? They can't? Well, its no

RE: Linux stifles innovation...

2001-02-17 Thread Torrey Hoffman
Dennis wrote: >At 07:01 PM 02/16/2001, Alan Olsen wrote: >>On Fri, 16 Feb 2001, Dennis wrote: >> >> > There is much truth to the concept, although Microsoft should not be ones >> > to comment on it as such. >> >>What truth? I have seen more "innovation" in the Open Source movement >>than I ever

Re: 2.4.1ac17 hang on mounting loopback fs

2001-02-17 Thread Thomas Molina
On Sat, 17 Feb 2001, Pete Toscano wrote: > reading this, I see now why mkbootdisk was locking in the D state with > the loop mounted... Would this also explain not being able to seek > forward while writing a floppy? > > I was trying to make the GRUB boot disk by writing the stage 1 and 2 >

Re: reiserfs on 2.4.1,2.4.2-pre (with null bytes patch) breaks mozilla compile

2001-02-17 Thread David
> Well, I run glibc-2.2.1 as well, so that might be one of the factors > contributing to this. Then again, glibc-2.2.1 with ext2 does not cause any > problems whatsoever with mozilla. So it could be that reiserfs + glibc-2.2.1 is > a bad combination, question remains which of these two is the

Serverworks HE quad Xeon: strange network lockups

2001-02-17 Thread Emil Briggs
We just got a SuperMicro S2QE6 which is a quad Xeon motherboard using the Serverworks HE chipset. It has onboard ethernet (Intel 82559). After installing Redhat 6.2 the Ethernet stopped working with the message "eth0: card reports no resources" >From what I have seen there is nothing that

RE: Linux stifles innovation...

2001-02-17 Thread Torrey Hoffman
Henning P. Schmiedehausen wrote: > ... If you > write for Windows, you have an ugly and complicated API with lots of > bugs Yes, that is true. > , but the API itself is stable since six (!) years. You can write > programs that run on 95/98/ME/NT/2000 unchanged. That is not always true, as I

Re: reiserfs on 2.4.1,2.4.2-pre (with null bytes patch) breaks mozilla compile

2001-02-17 Thread Frank de Lange
On Sat, Feb 17, 2001 at 05:47:49PM -0800, David wrote: > I can say "me too" for this. I thought it was perhaps glibc or binutils > tho. I only have reiserfs systems now so I don't have a basis for > comparison. > > However I -can- say that I didn't experience this until I put glibc > 2.2.1

Re: XOR [ was: Linux stifles innovation... ]

2001-02-17 Thread Dan Hollis
On Sat, 17 Feb 2001 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: > In 1984 I received a demand letter for $10,000 from the above > referenced company as a unlimited license for use of a that > patent and another patent. > At the time I ran a company that made graphics cards for IBM PCs. Did you ignore it or did you

Oops in 2.4.1 with apache nfs and netapp

2001-02-17 Thread Krzysztof Adamski
Here is the setup: Compaq proliant dual PIII 800 with 1G of memory. Debian potato system with the 2.4.1 kernel compiled from source (from ftp.kernel.org) SMP enabled. Reading specs from /usr/lib/gcc-lib/i386-linux/2.95.2/specs gcc version 2.95.2 2220 (Debian GNU/Linux) Server version:

Re: [LK] Re: lkml subject line

2001-02-17 Thread Chipzz
> > If the above procmail filter doesn't work (untested) let me know > > and I will MAKE it work. Windows users - tough luck - procmail > > is open source - hire someone to port it... This procmail rule has caught all the mail, never slipped even one in the last year: :0 * ^Sender:

Re: SO_SNDTIMEO: 2.4 kernel bugs

2001-02-17 Thread Chris Evans
Hi, By the way - I tested SO_RCVLOWAT, another 2.4 addition. Good news this time - seems to work fine. Cheers Chris - To unsubscribe from this list: send the line "unsubscribe linux-kernel" in the body of a message to [EMAIL PROTECTED] More majordomo info at

Re: reiserfs on 2.4.1,2.4.2-pre (with null bytes patch) breaks mozilla compile

2001-02-17 Thread David
I can say "me too" for this. I thought it was perhaps glibc or binutils tho. I only have reiserfs systems now so I don't have a basis for comparison. However I -can- say that I didn't experience this until I put glibc 2.2.1 on my systems. I do use an "approved" gcc, stock 2.95.2. I

Re: [PATCH] a more efficient BUG() macro

2001-02-17 Thread Keith Owens
On Sun, 18 Feb 2001 12:33:35 +1100, Andrew Morton <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: >__BASE_FILE__ does this. It expands to the thing which you >typed on the `gcc' command line. > >bix:/home/morton> ./a.out >3 at a.c >3 at a.c But __LINE__ is wrong. Forget what I said about __C_FILE__ and

2.4.1 crashing every other day

2001-02-17 Thread Andre Tomt
Very recently I installed a new mailserver for my company, based around qmail, linux 2.4.1, and software raid 1. It works very nicely untill it spews out oops's after a few days, leaving hundreds of qmail-popup processes hanging, unkillable. THe server is very lightly loaded for now, doing only a

Re: [PATCH] a more efficient BUG() macro

2001-02-17 Thread Andrew Morton
"J . A . Magallon" wrote: > > On 02.18 Andrew Morton wrote: > > > > __BASE_FILE__ does this. It expands to the thing which you > > typed on the `gcc' command line. > > > .. > > 3 at a.c > > 3 at a.c > > I also thought that, but look at the line numbers...wrong and repeated. Sure. There's no

Re: [PATCH] a more efficient BUG() macro

2001-02-17 Thread J . A . Magallon
On 02.18 Andrew Morton wrote: > > __BASE_FILE__ does this. It expands to the thing which you > typed on the `gcc' command line. > .. > 3 at a.c > 3 at a.c I also thought that, but look at the line numbers...wrong and repeated. -- J.A. Magallon

Re: [PATCH] a more efficient BUG() macro

2001-02-17 Thread Andrew Morton
Keith Owens wrote: > > But > > a.h > static inline void hello(void) { printf("%d at %s\n",__LINE__,__FILE__); } > > a.c > #include > #include "a.h" > > int main() > { > hello(); > hello(); > return 0; > } > > # ./a > 1 at a.h > 1 at a.h > __BASE_FILE__ does this. It

Re: reiserfs on 2.4.1,2.4.2-pre (with null bytes patch) breaks mozilla compile

2001-02-17 Thread Frank de Lange
On Sun, Feb 18, 2001 at 01:57:15AM +0100, Frank de Lange wrote: > I will retry this with 'all warnings and bells and whistles' turned on in > reiserfs (on 2.4.1-ac18), and see if anything out of the ordinary is logged. I > somehow doubt it, since repeated forced reiserfsck's have turned up

Re: reiserfs on 2.4.1,2.4.2-pre (with null bytes patch) breaks mozilla compile

2001-02-17 Thread Frank de Lange
> At least the patch didn't make it worse. Would anyone care to comment on > how the elf-dynstr-gc option changes the file access patterns for the > compile? It does not change the file access patterns, it adds an extra step. A separate binary (dist/bin/elf-dynstr-gc, a convoluted version of

Re: [LONG RANT] Re: Linux stifles innovation...

2001-02-17 Thread Peter Samuelson
[Jacob Luna Lundberg] > Just out of curiosity, why can't the specification be along the lines > of a vendor data file saying ``if you want the printer to do x then > say y'' and ``if the printer says x then it means y''. That ought to > add a lot of functionality right there. Think about it.

Re: reiserfs on 2.4.1,2.4.2-pre (with null bytes patch) breaks mozilla compile

2001-02-17 Thread Frank de Lange
> That's not good. Which compiler did you use to compile the kernel? This > sounds lame, but reiserfs exercises the cpu/mem more than ext2, so we hit > bad ram more often. If we run out of other things to try, please run a > memory tester. I use 'good old' gcc 2.95.2: gcc -v: gcc version 2.95.2

Re: SMP: bind process to cpu

2001-02-17 Thread Andrew Morton
Thomas Widmann wrote: > ... > * Andrew Morton wrote: > > > http://www.uow.edu.au/~andrewm/linux/#cpus_allowed > > > > You just write a bitmask into it. > > Thanks for this information. I patched my the kernel with it. > After rebooting with the new kernel i can see the bitmask > for every

Re: Linux stifles innovation...

2001-02-17 Thread Peter Samuelson
[Dennis] > For example, if there were six different companies that marketed > ethernet drivers for the eepro100, you'd have a choice of which one > to buy..perhaps with different "features" that were of value to > you. Instead, you have crappy GPL code that locks up under load, and > its not

Re: [PATCH] a more efficient BUG() macro

2001-02-17 Thread Keith Owens
On Sun, 18 Feb 2001 01:33:53 +0100, "J . A . Magallon" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: >Try this: >a.h: >#define hello printf("%d at %s\n",__LINE__,__FILE__) > >a.c: >#include >#include "a.h" > >int main() >{ >hello; >hello; >return 0; >} > >werewolf:~/ko> gcc a.c -o a >werewolf:~/ko> a

Re: [PATCH] a more efficient BUG() macro

2001-02-17 Thread J . A . Magallon
On 02.18 Keith Owens wrote: > > __C_FILE__ and __C_LINE__ refer to the .c or .s file that included the > header, so you get the exact location of the failing code instead of > the name and line number of a common header which is used all over the > place. __C_FILE__ would be replaced with the

Re: 2.4.1ac17 hang on mounting loopback fs

2001-02-17 Thread Pete Toscano
hmmm... I've been trying to play with GRUB on my 2.4.2-pre4 system. For safety's sake, I wanted to make a bookdisk with mkbootdisk. After reading this, I see now why mkbootdisk was locking in the D state with the loop mounted... Would this also explain not being able to seek forward while

Re: reiserfs on 2.4.1,2.4.2-pre (with null bytes patch) breaksmozilla compile

2001-02-17 Thread Chris Mason
On Saturday, February 17, 2001 05:21:18 PM +0100 Frank de Lange <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Hi'all, > > Well, subject says it all... When I try to compile mozilla (CVS version) > with the '--enable-elf-dynstr-gc' option, the compile fails with a > segfault: > > ../../dist/bin/elf-dynstr-gc

Re: Fwd: Re: System V msg queue bugs in latest kernels

2001-02-17 Thread Andries . Brouwer
From [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sat Feb 17 22:45:36 2001 I'm sending this to you with the hope that lines like this (in ipcs.c) can be modified to report proper values: printf ("%-10o%-12ld%-12ld\n", ipcp->mode & 0777, /* *

Re: Linux stifles innovation... [way O.T.]

2001-02-17 Thread Gerhard Mack
On Sat, 17 Feb 2001, Dennis wrote: > BSDI is distributing FreeBSD now. They havent done anything useful to > support it. They are just cashing in on it. That's BS last I heard they were merging their SMP support. Btw have you submitted bug reports for your networking card? If not you have no

Re: aic7xxx (and sym53c8xx) plans

2001-02-17 Thread Peter Samuelson
[Nathan Black] > This really improved the performance of my dual PIII-866 w/512MB Ram > and AIC7899 scsi. [...] > I would suggest, if at all possible, putting this in the 2.4.2 > kernel. Have you any idea the breadth of cards and chips that aic7xxx supports? Sure, Justin's driver does great

Re: [PATCH] a more efficient BUG() macro

2001-02-17 Thread Keith Owens
On Sat, 17 Feb 2001 13:15:42 + (GMT), Hugh Dickins <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: >On Sat, 17 Feb 2001, Paul Gortmaker wrote: >> Anyway this small patch makes sure there is only one "kernel BUG..." string, >> and dumps __FILE__ in favour of an address value since System.map data is >> needed to

Re: 2.4.1ac17 hang on mounting loopback fs

2001-02-17 Thread Ville Herva
On Sat, Feb 17, 2001 at 12:42:42PM -0800, you [Nate Eldredge] claimed: > Alan Cox writes: > > > # mount -t ext2 -o loop /spare/i486-linuxaout.img /spare/mnt > > > loop: enabling 8 loop devices > > > > Loop does not currently work in 2.4. It might partly work by luck > > but thats it. This

Re: System V msg queue bugs in latest kernels

2001-02-17 Thread Christopher Allen Wing
Manfred: > If you want to access values > 65535 from your app you have 2 options: > > 1) use the new msqid64_ds structure. You must pass IPC_64 to the msgctl > call. This is the only option if you need correct 32-bit uids. glibc 2.2 will support this natively without needing any changes to

usb audio

2001-02-17 Thread Landsberger Brian J
Has anyone been able to get the Apple Pro (the round clear) speakers to work in Linux? I've read the howto's and followed the various steps to no avail. The various usb modules print the following to syslog: Feb 17 14:05:50 fux0r kernel: usb.c: registered new driver audio Feb 17

Linux 2.4.1ac18

2001-02-17 Thread Alan Cox
ftp://ftp.kernel.org/pub/linux/kernel/people/alan/2.4/ 2.4.1-ac18 o Fix SO_SNDTIMEO bugs(Alexey Kuznetsov) o Fix tmpfs fsync (Lennert Buytenhek) o PPC now uses generic pci bus setup (Paul

Re: Linux stifles innovation...

2001-02-17 Thread Michael H. Warfield
On Sat, Feb 17, 2001 at 02:38:19PM -0800, Andre Hedrick wrote: > On Sat, 17 Feb 2001, Dennis wrote: > > good commercial drivers dont need fixing. another point. You are arguing > > that having source is required to fix crappy code, which i agree with. > > You "guys" like to have source, and

Re: SO_SNDTIMEO: 2.4 kernel bugs

2001-02-17 Thread Chris Evans
Hi Alexey, This patch fixes my simple read()/write() tests, nice one. The behaviour also now matches BSD (someone kindly donated me a FreeBSD shell for testing). Unfortunately, I discovered a bug with SO_SNDTIMEO/sendfile(): - Connect an AF_INET, SOCK_STREAM socket to a local listening

Re: Linux stifles innovation...

2001-02-17 Thread Andre Hedrick
On Sat, 17 Feb 2001, Dennis wrote: > good commercial drivers dont need fixing. another point. You are arguing > that having source is required to fix crappy code, which i agree with. > > You "guys" like to have source, and there is nothing wrong with that. But > requiring that all code be

Comparing buffer cache algorithms on 2.2.17. Suggestions?

2001-02-17 Thread Fireball Freddy
Howdy, Trying to implement some different buffer caching algorithms in Linux. This is just for comparison purposes for a thesis, not suggesting any problem with the current scheme. Here is what I'm attempting: o Eliminate BUF_CLEAN, BUF_DIRTY, and BUF_LOCKED lists in favor of a single

Re: re. too long mac address for --mac-source netfilter option

2001-02-17 Thread jpinpg
James L. wrote - > Hello All, > > On Sat, 17 Feb 2001 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: > > Stefan Hanse writes - > > >Umm.. An ethernet MAC address is 48bit long, ie AA:BB:CC:DD:EE:FF, 6 > >groups, not 14. Is this really an ethernet > > >interface? (If it really has 14 groups). > > > >> Good question.

Re: Linux stifles innovation...

2001-02-17 Thread Felix von Leitner
Thus spake Dennis ([EMAIL PROTECTED]): > You are confusing "progress" with "innovation". If there is only 1 choice, > thats not innovation. Expanding on a bad idea, or even a good one, is not > innovation. This is bizarre. Please name one innovation in the history of mankind that could not be

Re: [LONG RANT] Re: Linux stifles innovation...

2001-02-17 Thread Felix von Leitner
Thus spake Henning P . Schmiedehausen ([EMAIL PROTECTED]): > "If a company does not write a driver which works on all hardware > platforms in all cases and gives us the source, then it is better, > that the company writes no drivers at all." > "If I can't force a company to write a driver for

Changes to ide-cd for 2.4.1 are broken?

2001-02-17 Thread John Fremlin
Specifically, this part: @@ -2324,11 +2309,17 @@ sense.ascq == 0x04) return CDS_DISC_OK; + + /* +* If not using Mt Fuji extended media tray reports, +* just return TRAY_OPEN since ATAPI doesn't provide +

Re: SO_SNDTIMEO: 2.4 kernel bugs

2001-02-17 Thread Chris Evans
Alexey, Damn you are quick! :) Testing immediately Cheers Chris On Sat, 17 Feb 2001 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: > Hello! > > > Unfortunately, it seems to be very buggy. Here are two buggy scenarios. > > > --- ../vger3-010210/linux/net/ipv4/tcp.c Sat Feb 10 23:16:51 2001 > +++

[patch] clean up inconsistent formatting in MAINTAINERS

2001-02-17 Thread john slee
against 2.4.1: this may seem rather frivolous, but... patch below makes all data lines start with the appropriate letter, a colon, then a tab. previously some entries used (varying amounts of) space characters instead of tabs. --- MAINTAINERS.origSun Feb 18 01:48:03 2001 +++ MAINTAINERS

Re: [PATCH] starfire reads irq before pci_enable_device.

2001-02-17 Thread David S. Miller
Jeff Garzik writes: > And in another message, On Mon, 12 Feb 2001, David S. Miller wrote: > > 3) The acenic/gbit performance anomalies have been cured > >by reverting the PCI mem_inval tweaks. > > > Just to be clear, acenic should or should not use MWI? > > And can a general rule

Multi-sized MMU page support

2001-02-17 Thread Jeremy Jackson
Greetings, I have been staying up late thinking about this, so I'm writing to clear my head. (and get some sleep in the future) Background: Under ia32 Pentium and higher, 3 different MMU page sizes are available in hardware: 4kB, 4MB & 2MB. Under Alpha (21064), sizes include 8kB, 4MB for

Re: PROBLEM: virtual console corruption (2.4.1/p4/radeon/XFree864.0.2)

2001-02-17 Thread Ingo Buescher
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On Wed, 14 Feb 2001, David Wood wrote: > Everything actually works rather well, with the exception that when I've > started XFree86 a few times, coupled with switching virtual consoles, I > get irretrievably "corrupted" text virtual consoles. The

Re: Linux stifles innovation...

2001-02-17 Thread Alan Cox
> both lock up under load. You dont run a busy ISP i guess. The fact that > they come out with a new release every few minutes is clear evidence that > it is problematic. I've been technical director of an ISP. I help manage sites that have not insignificant loads and no eepro100 driver

Re: Linux stifles innovation...

2001-02-17 Thread Alan Cox
> When is that specification for 2.4 drivers going to be available? Talk > about "stifling the marketplace"!!! Vendors cant even write reliable > drivers if they want to. Its called the source code, which includes example driver skeletons. WHere is the documentation for writing your own etinc

Re: 2.4.1ac17 hang on mounting loopback fs

2001-02-17 Thread Nate Eldredge
Alan Cox writes: > > # mount -t ext2 -o loop /spare/i486-linuxaout.img /spare/mnt > > loop: enabling 8 loop devices > > Loop does not currently work in 2.4. It might partly work by luck > but thats it. This will change as and when the new loop patches go > in. Until then if you need loop

Re: Linux stifles innovation...

2001-02-17 Thread Gregory Maxwell
On Sat, Feb 17, 2001 at 03:08:48PM -0500, Dennis wrote: > good commercial drivers dont need fixing. another point. You are arguing > that having source is required to fix crappy code, which i agree with. Too bad we havn't seen much (any?) good closed-source (what you ment to say when you said

Re: Linux stifles innovation... [way O.T.]

2001-02-17 Thread Michael H. Warfield
On Sat, Feb 17, 2001 at 02:56:15PM -0500, Dennis wrote: > At 05:59 PM 02/16/2001, John Cavan wrote: > >Dennis wrote: > > > objective, arent we? > > > >You might ask yourself the same question... > > > For example, if there were six different companies that marketed ethernet > > > drivers for the

Re: Is this the ultimate stack-smash fix?

2001-02-17 Thread Alan Cox
> need fat pointers, which would make sizeof (long) /= sizeof (void *), > which would break quite some software, I think. There are plenty of architectures where sizeof long != sizeof (void *). If your code makes bad assumptions and a bounds checking cc breaks it then its progress. - To

Re: 2.4.1ac17 hang on mounting loopback fs

2001-02-17 Thread Alan Cox
> # mount -t ext2 -o loop /spare/i486-linuxaout.img /spare/mnt > loop: enabling 8 loop devices Loop does not currently work in 2.4. It might partly work by luck but thats it. This will change as and when the new loop patches go in. Until then if you need loop use 2.2 - To unsubscribe from this

Re: SO_SNDTIMEO: 2.4 kernel bugs

2001-02-17 Thread kuznet
Hello! > Unfortunately, it seems to be very buggy. Here are two buggy scenarios. --- ../vger3-010210/linux/net/ipv4/tcp.cSat Feb 10 23:16:51 2001 +++ linux/net/ipv4/tcp.cSat Feb 17 23:27:43 2001 @@ -691,6 +691,8 @@ set_current_state(TASK_INTERRUPTIBLE); +

Re: Linux stifles innovation...

2001-02-17 Thread Michael H. Warfield
On Sat, Feb 17, 2001 at 03:08:48PM -0500, Dennis wrote: > At 07:10 PM 02/16/2001, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: > >Dennis wrote: > >... > > > objective, arent we? > >Nope. Are you claiming to be? > > > > > For example, if there were six different companies that marketed ethernet > > > drivers for the

Re: Linux stifles innovation...

2001-02-17 Thread Michael H. Warfield
On Sat, Feb 17, 2001 at 03:05:36PM -0500, Dennis wrote: > At 07:01 PM 02/16/2001, Alan Olsen wrote: > >On Fri, 16 Feb 2001, Dennis wrote: > > > There is much truth to the concept, although Microsoft should not be ones > > > to comment on it as such. > >What truth? I have seen more "innovation"

Re: Linux stifles innovation...

2001-02-17 Thread Alan Olsen
On Sat, 17 Feb 2001, Dennis wrote: > At 07:01 PM 02/16/2001, Alan Olsen wrote: > >On Fri, 16 Feb 2001, Dennis wrote: > > > > > There is much truth to the concept, although Microsoft should not be ones > > > to comment on it as such. > > > >What truth? I have seen more "innovation" in the Open

Re: re. too long mac address for --mac-source netfilter option

2001-02-17 Thread Mr. James W. Laferriere
Hello All, On Sat, 17 Feb 2001 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: > Stefan Hanse writes - > >Umm.. An ethernet MAC address is 48bit long, ie AA:BB:CC:DD:EE:FF, 6 >groups, not 14. Is this really an ethernet > >interface? (If it really has 14 groups). > >> Good question. I have determined by

Re: Linux stifles innovation...

2001-02-17 Thread James A. Sutherland
On Sat, 17 Feb 2001, Michael Bacarella wrote: > On Sat, Feb 17, 2001 at 02:38:29PM -0500, Dennis wrote: > > >It's not about facts, it's not about the truth, it's not about Jim > > >Allchin being an idiot or deluded. It's about propaganda, > > >misinformation, and marketing. It's about business.

Re: System V msg queue bugs in latest kernels

2001-02-17 Thread Manfred Spraul
Manfred Spraul wrote: > > Mark Swanson wrote: > > > > Hello, > > > > ipcs (msg) gives incorrect results if used-bytes is above 65536. It > > stays at 65536 even though messages are being read and removed from the > > msg queue. > > Ok, does the value stay at 65536 or 65535? It should stay at

Re: SMP: bind process to cpu

2001-02-17 Thread Tim Hockin
> Is it possible to bind a process to a specific > cpu on this SMP machine (process affinity) ? > > I there something like pset ? http://isunix.it.ilstu.edu/~thockin/pset - pset for linux-2.2 (not ported to 2.4 yet) - To unsubscribe from this list: send the line "unsubscribe linux-kernel" in

Re: Linux stifles innovation...

2001-02-17 Thread James A. Sutherland
On Sat, 17 Feb 2001, Dennis wrote: > At 07:01 PM 02/16/2001, Alan Olsen wrote: > >On Fri, 16 Feb 2001, Dennis wrote: > > > > > There is much truth to the concept, although Microsoft should not be ones > > > to comment on it as such. > > > >What truth? I have seen more "innovation" in the Open

Re: Linux stifles innovation... [way O.T.]

2001-02-17 Thread Dennis
At 05:59 PM 02/16/2001, John Cavan wrote: >Dennis wrote: > > objective, arent we? > >You might ask yourself the same question... > > > For example, if there were six different companies that marketed ethernet > > drivers for the eepro100, you'd have a choice of which one to buy..perhaps > > with

Re: Linux stifles innovation...

2001-02-17 Thread Dennis
At 07:01 PM 02/16/2001, Alan Olsen wrote: >On Fri, 16 Feb 2001, Dennis wrote: > > > There is much truth to the concept, although Microsoft should not be ones > > to comment on it as such. > >What truth? I have seen more "innovation" in the Open Source movement >than I ever have in my 18+ years

Re: Linux stifles innovation...

2001-02-17 Thread Dennis
At 07:10 PM 02/16/2001, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: >Dennis wrote: >... > > objective, arent we? >Nope. Are you claiming to be? > > > For example, if there were six different companies that marketed ethernet > > drivers for the eepro100, you'd have a choice of which one to buy..perhaps >... Rant

Re: Linux stifles innovation...

2001-02-17 Thread Michael Bacarella
On Sat, Feb 17, 2001 at 02:38:29PM -0500, Dennis wrote: > >It's not about facts, it's not about the truth, it's not about Jim > >Allchin being an idiot or deluded. It's about propaganda, > >misinformation, and marketing. It's about business. Nothing new, nor > >unexpected. And to the comment "It

Re: SMP: bind process to cpu

2001-02-17 Thread Francis Galiegue
On Sat, 17 Feb 2001, Thomas Widmann wrote: > > #cat /proc/1310/cpus_allowed > > > Now, if i want to run this process on only one cpu, i which way > do i have to set the bitmask ? > Let's say, i want to run it on cpu0. how look's the bitmask ? > Wild guess: as this is a bitmask, you

[help] _syscall2 fails with -fPIC

2001-02-17 Thread Mark Swanson
Hello, I am building a -fPIC shared object that will define and access a Linux kernel system call, but _syscall2 fails with -fPIC .so compilation. What can I do? F.E. the statement: _syscall2 (int, tux, unsigned int, action, user_req_t *, req) Gives the following gcc error when

re. too long mac address for --mac-source netfilter option

2001-02-17 Thread jbinpg
Jack Bowling wrote - >> I am trying to use the --mac-source option in the netfilter code to better refine >access to my linux box. However, I > have run up against something. The router >through which my private subnet work box passes sends a 14-group "invalid" > mac >address, presumably as

Re: System V msg queue bugs in latest kernels

2001-02-17 Thread Mark Swanson
The exact error is in /usr/include/linux/msg.h The three unsigned shorts should be unsigned int instead. Would too many things break if this was changed? Should user-space tools like ipcs be rewritten to use /proc/sysvipc instead? (I notice that my old 2.2.14 kernel doesn't have

Re: Linux stifles innovation...

2001-02-17 Thread Francois Romieu
Dennis <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> écrit : [...] > When is that specification for 2.4 drivers going to be available? Talk > about "stifling the marketplace"!!! Vendors cant even write reliable > drivers if they want to. May be said vendors should give a look at l-k between 2.2 and 2.4 instead of

RE: Linux stifles innovation...

2001-02-17 Thread Dennis
At 08:34 PM 02/16/2001, Neal Dias wrote: >-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- >Hash: SHA1 > >It's not about facts, it's not about the truth, it's not about Jim >Allchin being an idiot or deluded. It's about propaganda, >misinformation, and marketing. It's about business. Nothing new, nor

Re: Ingo's RAID patch for 2.2.18 final?

2001-02-17 Thread Andrea Arcangeli
On Fri, Feb 16, 2001 at 10:53:51AM -0500, David Mansfield wrote: > This may be a bit OT, but when you say O_DIRECT, that implies that you > can pass that flag to open(2) and it will bypass the page cache, and yes. > read directly into user-space buffers (zero-copy IO)? Does this also yes. >

Re: System V msg queue bugs in latest kernels

2001-02-17 Thread Mark Swanson
You are right. /proc/sysvipc/msg is correct. It shows: cbytes: 1048575 qnum: 95325 ipcs shows: used-bytes: 65535 messages: 65535 It's a 16-bit number issue. --- Manfred Spraul <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Mark Swanson wrote: > > > > Hello, > > > > ipcs (msg) gives incorrect results if

Re: [LONG RANT] Re: Linux stifles innovation...

2001-02-17 Thread Jacob Luna Lundberg
> Speaking as a Linux _USER_, if this happens, can I get said print > engine working on my ARM machines with these closed source drivers? > Can Alpha users get this print system working? Can Sparc uses > get it working? What? I can't? They can't? Well, its no good to > me nor them. You've

Re: [LONG RANT] Re: Linux stifles innovation...

2001-02-17 Thread Henning P . Schmiedehausen
On Sat, Feb 17, 2001 at 01:37:58PM +, Russell King wrote: > Henning P. Schmiedehausen writes: > > But at least I would be happy if there would be a printing > > engine that is entirely open source and all the printer vendors can > > write a small, closed source stub that drives their printer

Re: Linux stifles innovation...

2001-02-17 Thread Dennis
At 05:31 PM 02/16/2001, Dan Hollis wrote: >On Fri, 16 Feb 2001, Dennis wrote: > > The biggest thing that the linux community does to stifle innovation is to > > bash commercial vendors trying to make a profit by whining endlessly about > > "sourceless" distributions and recommending "open-source"

Re: Linux stifles innovation...

2001-02-17 Thread Mohammad A. Haque
I'm using these drivers just fine on a couple of streaming servers that get hit pretty hard. Dennis wrote: > both lock up under load. You dont run a busy ISP i guess. The fact that > they come out with a new release every few minutes is clear evidence that > it is problematic. --

Re: SMP: bind process to cpu

2001-02-17 Thread Thomas Widmann
Hi, * Andrew Morton wrote: > > Hi, > > > > I run an 3*XEON 550MHz Primergy with 2GB of RAM. > > On this machine, i have compiled kernel 2.4.0SMP. > > > > Is it possible to bind a process to a specific > > cpu on this SMP machine (process affinity) ? > > > > I there something like pset ? > >

[PATCH] APMD on Linux 2.2.18 and include/linux/mc146818rtc.h

2001-02-17 Thread Marc Esipovich
I've noticed this when attempting to build APMD, mc146818rtc.h has a reference to a spinlock_t while asm/spinlock.h is not included. Patch follows: --- linux-2.2.18.orig/include/linux/mc146818rtc.hFri Jan 12 19:15:00 2001 +++ linux-2.2.18/include/linux/mc146818rtc.h Tue

Re: System V msg queue bugs in latest kernels

2001-02-17 Thread Manfred Spraul
Mark Swanson wrote: > > Hello, > > ipcs (msg) gives incorrect results if used-bytes is above 65536. It > stays at 65536 even though messages are being read and removed from the > msg queue. > I'm testing it. Could you check /proc/sysvipc/msg? I know that several API's have 16-bit numbers,

Re: Linux stifles innovation...

2001-02-17 Thread Dennis
> >Fortunately despite your best efforts there is now a choice in 2.4 When is that specification for 2.4 drivers going to be available? Talk about "stifling the marketplace"!!! Vendors cant even write reliable drivers if they want to. db - To unsubscribe from this list: send the line

Re: Linux stifles innovation...

2001-02-17 Thread Dennis
At 05:20 PM 02/16/2001, Alan Cox wrote: > > For example, if there were six different companies that marketed ethernet > > drivers for the eepro100, you'd have a choice of which one to buy..perhaps > > with different "features" that were of value to you. Instead, you have > > crappy GPL code that

Re: [LONG RANT] Re: Linux stifles innovation...

2001-02-17 Thread Jonathan Morton
>Henning P. Schmiedehausen writes: >> But at least I would be happy if there would be a printing >> engine that is entirely open source and all the printer vendors can >> write a small, closed source stub that drives their printer over >> parallel port, ethernet or USB and give us all the

Re: Linux stifles innovation...

2001-02-17 Thread Henning P . Schmiedehausen
On Sat, Feb 17, 2001 at 02:58:45PM +0100, Jean Francois Micouleau wrote: > > On Sat, 17 Feb 2001, Henning P. Schmiedehausen wrote: > > > If IBM, Intel, Compaq, HP, Dell, SGI and other companies would > > wholeheartedly drop their Windows support in favour of Linux, that I > > would call "a

System V msg queue bugs in latest kernels

2001-02-17 Thread Mark Swanson
Hello, ipcs (msg) gives incorrect results if used-bytes is above 65536. It stays at 65536 even though messages are being read and removed from the msg queue. The sysv msg queue either ignores the /proc/sys/kernel/msgmnb value if it is above 65536 or simply gets it wrong. Proof: I can place more

Re: Flushing buffer and page cache

2001-02-17 Thread Douglas Gilbert
James Bottomley wrote: > > Is it possible to flush all entries in the buffer cache corresponding > > to a single block device (i.e. simply drop them if they aren't dirty, > > or write them to disk and drop them after this if they are dirty)? > > Yes, just send the BLKFLSBUF ioctl to the device

Re: SMP: bind process to cpu

2001-02-17 Thread Christoph Hellwig
[Nick, I've added you to the Cc list so you can look at it for future versions of your patch] On Sat, Feb 17, 2001 at 03:13:45PM +0100, Manfred Spraul wrote: > You must also update wake_process_synchroneous(), otherwise you can get > lost wakeups with pipes. > > Something like

Re: XOR [ was: Linux stifles innovation... ]

2001-02-17 Thread brian
> > On Fri, 16 Feb 2001, Michael H. Warfield wrote: > > > > You know XOR is patented (yes, the logical bit operation XOR). > > > But wasn't that Xerox that had that? > > US Patent #4,197,590 held by NuGraphics, Inc. On Fri, Feb 16, 2001 at 09:20:34PM -0500, David Relson wrote: > The patent

Re: Linux stifles innovation...

2001-02-17 Thread Robert Read
On Sat, Feb 17, 2001 at 12:41:57PM +, Henning P. Schmiedehausen wrote: > > If HP would spent only 5% of their driver writing > buget for Windows into Linux driver development, that I would call "a > move". Have you seen this: http://hp.sourceforge.net/ I certainly don't know what the

Re: LILO and serial speeds over 9600

2001-02-17 Thread James Sutherland
On Sat, 17 Feb 2001, Patrick Michael Kane wrote: > * Pavel Machek ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) [010217 05:40]: > > Being able to remotely resed machine with crashed userland would be > > *very* nice, too... > > If it provides a true remote console, enable SYSRQ and youi should get this > for free. Yes,

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