Re: [PATCH] sockreg2.4.5-05 inet[6]_create() register/unregistertable

2001-06-06 Thread Matt D. Robinson
Richard Gooch wrote: > David S. Miller writes: > > Matt D. Robinson writes: > > > > This allows people to make proprietary implementations of TCP under > > > > Linux. And we don't want this just as we don't want to add a way to > > > > allow someone to do a proprietary Linux VM. > > > > > >

2.2.20 pre2 compilation broken

2001-06-06 Thread Steve Kieu
hi, here is the message: ld -m elf_i386 -T /mnt/hda3/linux-2.2.19/arch/i386/vmlinux.lds -e stext arch/i386/kernel/head.o arch/i386/kernel/init_task.o init/main.o init/version.o \ --start-group \ arch/i386/kernel/kernel.o arch/i386/mm/mm.o kernel/kernel.o mm/mm.o fs/fs.o

Re: PROBLEM: I/O system call never returns if file desc is closedin the

2001-06-06 Thread Alexander Viro
On 7 Jun 2001, Florian Weimer wrote: > Matthias Urlichs <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > > > Select is defined as to return, with the appropriate bit set, if/when > > a nonblocking read/write on the file descriptor won't block. You'd get > > EBADF in this case, therefore causing the select to

Re: Break 2.4 VM in five easy steps

2001-06-06 Thread Mike Galbraith
On 6 Jun 2001, Eric W. Biederman wrote: > Mike Galbraith <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > > > > If you could confirm this by calling swapoff sometime other than at > > > reboot time. That might help. Say by running top on the console. > > > > The thing goes comatose here too. SCHED_RR vmstat

Re: PROBLEM: I/O system call never returns if file desc is closed in the

2001-06-06 Thread Florian Weimer
Matthias Urlichs <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > Select is defined as to return, with the appropriate bit set, if/when > a nonblocking read/write on the file descriptor won't block. You'd get > EBADF in this case, therefore causing the select to return would be a > Good Thing. How do you avoid

Re: temperature standard - global config option?

2001-06-06 Thread watermodem
FLAME Protection ON WARNING -- Do not read if you are humor impaired. Euro-centric here? The US is mm/dd/yy or mm/dd/ Many countries/religions/peoples have different base years, and calendars... It happens to have a US format in the current kernel... so what... Convert it in

Re: forcibly unmap pages in driver?

2001-06-06 Thread Dan Maas
Just an update to my situation... I've implemented my idea of clearing the associated PTE's when I need to free the DMA buffer, then re-filling them in nopage(). This seems to work fine; if the user process tries anything fishy, it gets a SIGBUS instead of accessing the old mapping. I

xircom_cb problems

2001-06-06 Thread Tom Sightler
> The patch does only one thing: it instructs the card not to negotiate > full-duplex modes, because (for undocumented and yet unexplained > reasons) > full-duplex modes don't work well on this card. > > If you had problems before, then their cause is most likely elsewhere. > 1-second ping time

Re: symlink_prefix

2001-06-06 Thread Edgar Toernig
Alexander Viro wrote: > > On Thu, 7 Jun 2001, Edgar Toernig wrote: > > > Alexander Viro wrote: > > > ... > > > dir = open("/usr/local", O_DIRECTORY); > > > /* error handling */ > > > new_mount(dir, MNT_SET, fs_fd); /* closes dir and fs_fd */ > > > > Do you really

Re: Break 2.4 VM in five easy steps

2001-06-06 Thread Miles Lane
On 06 Jun 2001 20:34:49 -0400, Mike A. Harris wrote: > On Wed, 6 Jun 2001, Derek Glidden wrote: > > >> Derek> overwhelmed. On the system I'm using to write this, with > >> Derek> 512MB of RAM and 512MB of swap, I run two copies of this > >> > >> Please see the following message on the kernel

Re: kernel oops when burning CDs

2001-06-06 Thread Douglas Gilbert
Tachino wrote: > At Mon, 4 Jun 2001 22:43:30 +0100 (BST), > Alan Cox wrote: > > > > > I get an ooops and immediate kernel panic when I break (CTRL-C) cdrecord. I > > > can reproduce it anytime. I use 2.4.5-ac series. Obviously, Linus' 2.4.5 is > > > fine. > > > I know, I know. I was supposed

Re: Requirement: swap = RAM x 2.5 ??

2001-06-06 Thread Jan Harkes
On Wed, Jun 06, 2001 at 12:42:03PM -0600, Eric W. Biederman wrote: > Jeff Garzik <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > > I'm sorry but this is a regression, plain and simple. > > > > Previous versons of Linux have worked great on diskless workstations > > with NO swap. > > > > Swap is "extra space to

Re: symlink_prefix

2001-06-06 Thread Alexander Viro
On Thu, 7 Jun 2001, Edgar Toernig wrote: > Alexander Viro wrote: > > ... > > dir = open("/usr/local", O_DIRECTORY); > > /* error handling */ > > new_mount(dir, MNT_SET, fs_fd); /* closes dir and fs_fd */ > > Do you really want to start using fds instead of

Re: symlink_prefix

2001-06-06 Thread Edgar Toernig
Alexander Viro wrote: > ... > dir = open("/usr/local", O_DIRECTORY); > /* error handling */ > new_mount(dir, MNT_SET, fs_fd); /* closes dir and fs_fd */ Do you really want to start using fds instead of strings for tree modifying commands (link, unlink, symlink,

SHM/TMPFS broken on s390x in 2.4.5

2001-06-06 Thread Oliver Paukstadt
HY HY I tried 2.4.5-ac8 which includes the newest s390-Patches from IBM and I found out, that it is possible to access shared memory but when you free it, the machine crashs. The output on console seems to come from __swap_free in swapfile.c: It was a mixture of swap_free: Trying to free

Re: [PATCH] sockreg2.4.5-05 inet[6]_create() register/unregister table

2001-06-06 Thread Ben Greear
Richard Gooch wrote: > > David S. Miller writes: > > > > Matt D. Robinson writes: > > > > This allows people to make proprietary implementations of TCP under > > > > Linux. And we don't want this just as we don't want to add a way to > > > > allow someone to do a proprietary Linux VM. > > >

Re: Break 2.4 VM in five easy steps

2001-06-06 Thread Mike A. Harris
On Wed, 6 Jun 2001, android wrote: >associated with that mindset that made Microsoft such a [fill in the blank]. >As for the 2.4 VM problem, what are you doing with your machine that's >making it use up so much memory? I have several processes running >on mine all the time, including a slew in

irqtune in kernel 2.4

2001-06-06 Thread tcm
Hi. I will try to keep this as informative as possible, just in case I've missed something. First off, I've already searched all the kernel archives I could, google, I've looked around on IRC for help in four different networks, I've emailed the debian hwtools package maintainer (who

Re: Break 2.4 VM in five easy steps

2001-06-06 Thread Mike A. Harris
On Wed, 6 Jun 2001, Dr S.M. Huen wrote: >> For large memory boxes, this is ridiculous. Should I have 8GB of swap? >> > >Do I understand you correctly? >ECC grade SDRAM for your 8GB server costs £335 per GB as 512MB sticks even >at today's silly prices (Crucial). Ultra160 SCSI costs £8.93/GB as

2.4.2 yenta_socket problems on ThinkPad 240

2001-06-06 Thread Eric Smith
I upgraded my IBM ThinkPad 240 (Type 2609-31U) from Red Hat 7.0 to Red Hat 7.1, which uses the 2.4.2 kernel and the kernel PCMCIA drivers. Before the upgrade, all my CardBus and PCMCIA devices were working fine. Now the yenta_socket module seems to be causing problems, and none of the cards

RTL8139, IRQ sharing, etc.

2001-06-06 Thread Matthias Andree
On Fri, 01 Jun 2001, Matthias Andree wrote: > Not sure if it's related to IRQ sharing or another initialization issue. Looks like IRQ sharing is still in the play. Yesterday, I purchased a pair of used 3C905TXs, replaced the RTL 8139 by the 3C905, and got complaints by the 3C905 about "eth0:

Re: [PATCH] sockreg2.4.5-05 inet[6]_create() register/unregister table

2001-06-06 Thread David S. Miller
Matt D. Robinson writes: > > This allows people to make proprietary implementations of TCP under > > Linux. And we don't want this just as we don't want to add a way to > > allow someone to do a proprietary Linux VM. > > And if as Joe User I don't want Linux TCP, but Joe's TCP, they can't

Re: temperature standard - global config option?

2001-06-06 Thread David Flynn
> On Wed, 6 Jun 2001, Kipp Cannon wrote: > > > If the kernel tells me the temperature is 1 (one) what should that mean? > > If it's spitting out 0.1* as people are claiming the > > ACPI stuff does then 1 means 10 kelvin or 1 dekakelvin, not a > > >

Re: [PATCH] sockreg2.4.5-05 inet[6]_create() register/unregister table

2001-06-06 Thread Matt D. Robinson
"David S. Miller" wrote: > > La Monte H.P. Yarroll writes: > > Matt D. Robinson writes: > > > Is there any way to add in the capability to _replace_ TCP with > > > your own, so you can use your own layer? > > ABSOLUTELY NOT! > > And I will never in my lifetime allow such a facility to be

[PATCH] scsi_scan fix (for usb)

2001-06-06 Thread Andries . Brouwer
Recently I reported for 2.4.3 and 2.4.5 a failure to detect a USB CF card reader caused by the occurrence of a Unit Attention at boot time. An ugly solution is to remove this "error" in usb/storage/transport.c, but since this is perfectly normal SCSI behaviour, and can in principle occur with all

Re: Break 2.4 VM in five easy steps

2001-06-06 Thread Kai Henningsen
[EMAIL PROTECTED] (Alexander Viro) wrote on 06.06.01 in <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>: > On Wed, 6 Jun 2001, Sean Hunter wrote: > > > This is completely bogus. I am not saying that I can't afford the swap. > > What I am saying is that it is completely broken to require this amount > > of swap given the

Re: temperature standard - global config option?

2001-06-06 Thread Maciej Zenczykowski
On Wed, 6 Jun 2001, Kipp Cannon wrote: > If the kernel tells me the temperature is 1 (one) what should that mean? > If it's spitting out 0.1* as people are claiming the > ACPI stuff does then 1 means 10 kelvin or 1 dekakelvin, not a > > decikelvin

Re: NFS caching issues on 2.4

2001-06-06 Thread Trond Myklebust
> " " == Phil Oester <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > I've stumbled upon a wierd NFS caching issue on 2.4 which does > not seem to exist in 2.2. Our www docroot is NFS mounted on a > NetApp 760. We have a cron job which make changes to the > index.html every 5 minutes.

Re: Break 2.4 VM in five easy steps

2001-06-06 Thread Jonathan Morton
At 11:27 pm +0100 6/6/2001, android wrote: >> >I'd be happy to write a new routine in assembly >> >>I sincerely hope you're joking. >> >>It's the algorithm that needs fixing, not the implementation of that >>algorithm. Writing in assembler? Hope you're proficient at writing in >>x86, PPC, 68k,

Re: Linux 2.4.5-ac9

2001-06-06 Thread arjan
In article <002e01c0eead$03c6d890$[EMAIL PROTECTED]> you wrote: >> 2.4.5-ac9 >> o Fix xircom_cb problems with some cisco kit (Ion Badulescu) > One other note, the version in 2.4.4-ac11 is listed as 1.33 while the > version in 2.4.5-ac9 is 1.11, why did we go backwards? Were there > significant

Re: [driver] New life for Serial mice

2001-06-06 Thread James Simmons
> > It would be nice if we had > > > > 1) A seperate serial directory under drivers. > > > > 2) A nice structure that input devices and the tty layer can use. It is > >just a waste to go threw the tty layer for input devices. It would also > >make serial driver writing easier if the

Re: Break 2.4 VM in five easy steps

2001-06-06 Thread Robert Love
On 06 Jun 2001 15:27:57 -0700, android wrote: > >I sincerely hope you're joking. > > I realize that assembly is platform-specific. Being that I use the IA32 class > machine, that's what I would write for. Others who use other platforms could > do the deed for their native language. no, look at

Re: Break 2.4 VM in five easy steps

2001-06-06 Thread Antoine
hi, I have a problem with kswapd, it takes suddenly 98 % CPU and crash my server I dono why, I have a linux kernel 2.2.17 debian distro if anyone can help me ... thx ;) Antoine - To unsubscribe from this list: send the line "unsubscribe linux-kernel" in the body of a message to [EMAIL

FW: Kernel 2.4.4 fails to boot

2001-06-06 Thread Clive Jordan
Hi Chaps, I cannot get a newly compiled 2.4.4 kernel to boot. I've searched several archives but have not found a suitable answer. Can someone please point me to a suitable FAQ ? Fails at: Loading linux ... Uncompressing Linux... Ok, booting kernel. Same result with kernel versions

Re: Break 2.4 VM in five easy steps

2001-06-06 Thread android
> >I'd be happy to write a new routine in assembly > >I sincerely hope you're joking. > >It's the algorithm that needs fixing, not the implementation of that >algorithm. Writing in assembler? Hope you're proficient at writing in >x86, PPC, 68k, MIPS (several varieties), ARM, SPARC, and

Re: Break 2.4 VM in five easy steps

2001-06-06 Thread Jonathan Morton
>I'd be happy to write a new routine in assembly I sincerely hope you're joking. It's the algorithm that needs fixing, not the implementation of that algorithm. Writing in assembler? Hope you're proficient at writing in x86, PPC, 68k, MIPS (several varieties), ARM, SPARC, and whatever other

Re: [PATCH] sockreg2.4.5-05 inet[6]_create() register/unregister table

2001-06-06 Thread La Monte H.P. Yarroll
Thanks! I'm glad you like our code. This patch does allow you to override TCP with a new implementation for new connections and then back out safely to the old TCP later. I think the feature you are asking for (replace TCP for EXISTING connections) is quite dangerous. You COULD grub around in

Re: Break 2.4 VM in five easy steps

2001-06-06 Thread LA Walsh
"Eric W. Biederman" wrote: > The hard rule will always be that to cover all pathological cases swap > must be greater than RAM. Because in the worse case all RAM will be > in thes swap cache. That this is more than just the worse case in 2.4 > is problematic. I.e. In the worst case: > Virtual

Re: Linux 2.4.5-ac9

2001-06-06 Thread Ion Badulescu
On Wed, 6 Jun 2001 13:20:41 -0400, Tom Sightler <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: >> 2.4.5-ac9 > >> o Fix xircom_cb problems with some cisco kit (Ion Badulescu) > > I'm not sure what this is supposed to fix, but it makes my Xircom > RBEM56G-100 almost useless on my network at the office. Actually, I

Re: temperature standard - global config option?

2001-06-06 Thread J . A . Magallon
On 06.06 Pavel Machek wrote: > > ACPI is already using 0.1*K, so everything should use that to be > consistent. > Pavel Which is the data type for temperature ? Would not it be better to use 0.01*K ? So you get the full accuracy of

[PATCH] Reap dead swap cache earlier v2

2001-06-06 Thread Marcelo Tosatti
Hi, As suggested by Linus, I've cleaned the reapswap code to be contained inside an inline function. (yes, the if statement is really ugly) Tested and against 2.4.6pre1. --- linux.orig/mm/vmscan.c Wed Jun 6 18:16:45 2001 +++ linux/mm/vmscan.c Wed Jun 6 18:28:26 2001 @@ -407,6

[PATCH] timer vector printed inconsistently

2001-06-06 Thread Philip Pokorny
When trying to debug a recent problem with some interrupt routing, I found the output to be confusing... The TIMER vector is printed with %d, but when the APIC tables are printed, the vector is printed using %02X. This was particularly confusing in this case because the TIMER vector was 49d

Re: temperature standard - global config option?

2001-06-06 Thread Kipp Cannon
Hi, It seems that a lot of people are agreeing that the unit should be a multiple of 1 kelvin but to my eyes there are two camps and I just want to make sure that everyone's being clear with their notation. If the kernel tells me the temperature is 1 (one) what should that mean? If it's

Re: Break 2.4 VM in five easy steps

2001-06-06 Thread android
>Is anybody interested in making "swapoff()" better? Please speak up.. > > Linus I'd be happy to write a new routine in assembly, if I had a clue as to how the VM algorithm works in Linux. What should swapoff do if all physical memory is in use? How does the swapping algorithm

pcap_setfilter: to dump the unread packets

2001-06-06 Thread ashley thomas
Hi, I am using libpcap 0.6 on Linux to capture packets from the interface. In my application I am using pcap_setfilter to modify the filter for capturing packets from the interface. But after filter has been modified the libpcap retains the packets that libpcap had got using the old filter (ie

Re: [driver] New life for Serial mice

2001-06-06 Thread Russell King
On Wed, Jun 06, 2001 at 01:20:53PM -0700, James Simmons wrote: > Never noticed it until now. Very nice patch :-) I have to agree as well. > It would be nice if we had > > 1) A seperate serial directory under drivers. > > 2) A nice structure that input devices and the tty layer can use. It is >

Re: How to know HZ from userspace?

2001-06-06 Thread Linus Torvalds
In article <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, Harald Welte <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > >Is there any way to read out the compile-time HZ value of the kernel? In 2.4.x, you'll get it on the stack as one of the ELF auxilliary entries (AT_CLKTCK). Strictly speaking that's the "frequency at which 'times()'

Re: How to know HZ from userspace?

2001-06-06 Thread Harald Welte
On Wed, Jun 06, 2001 at 08:59:51PM +0200, Tomas Telensky wrote: > > On Wed, Jun 06, 2001 at 08:09:33PM +0200, Tomas Telensky wrote: > > > > Hi! > > > > > > > > Is there any way to read out the compile-time HZ value of the kernel? > > > > > > Why simply #include ? > > > > because the include

Re: temperature standard - global config option?

2001-06-06 Thread H. Peter Anvin
Followup to: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> By author:Peter Svensson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> In newsgroup: linux.dev.kernel > > Kelvin (decikelvin?) is probably a good unit to use in the kernel. If you > want something else you convert it in the programs you use to interact > with the kernel. This is a

Re: Break 2.4 VM in five easy steps

2001-06-06 Thread Linus Torvalds
In article <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, Derek Glidden <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > >After reading the messages to this list for the last couple of weeks and >playing around on my machine, I'm convinced that the VM system in 2.4 is >still severely broken. Now, this may well be true, but what you

NFS caching issues on 2.4

2001-06-06 Thread Phil Oester
I've stumbled upon a wierd NFS caching issue on 2.4 which does not seem to exist in 2.2. Our www docroot is NFS mounted on a NetApp 760. We have a cron job which make changes to the index.html every 5 minutes. Recently, we upgraded all the web servers to 2.4 and noticed that there were big

[PATCH] Promise ATARAID

2001-06-06 Thread Jim Wright
Working with 2.4.5-ac8, a "_" was omitted in the Config.in file's rule for the Promise ATARAID card. The following will fix that. --- drivers/ide/Config.in.orig Tue Jun 5 17:46:08 2001 +++ drivers/ide/Config.in Tue Jun 5 17:46:19 2001 @@ -180,6 +180,6 @@ define_bool

Re: 2.4.5-ac8 hardlocks when going to standby

2001-06-06 Thread Remi Turk
On Wed, Jun 06, 2001 at 07:03:09PM +0200, Remi Turk wrote: > > By applying the following patch (lookalike)? > > arch/i386/kernel/apm.c:send_event(): > > case APM_SYS_SUSPEND: > case APM_CRITICAL_SUSPEND: > case APM_USER_SUSPEND: > + case APM_USER_STANDBY: > + case

Re: Break 2.4 VM in five easy steps

2001-06-06 Thread Daniel Phillips
On Wednesday 06 June 2001 20:27, Eric W. Biederman wrote: > The hard rule will always be that to cover all pathological cases > swap must be greater than RAM. Because in the worse case all RAM > will be in thes swap cache. Could you explain in very simple terms how the worst case comes about?

Re: temperature standard - global config option?

2001-06-06 Thread Pavel Machek
Hi! > > Please, don't. > > > > Use kelvins *0.1, and use them consistently everywhere. This is what > > ACPI does, and it is probably right. > > I'm sorry, by I don't feel like adding 273 to every number I get just to > find the temperature of something. What I would do is give configuration

es1371 compile issue in 2.4.5-ac9

2001-06-06 Thread Alan Olsen
Try to reproduce one problem and find another... I rebuilt from clean source and patch for 2.4.5-ac9 and neglected to add in anything using the joystick. (Which I should have done since this thing has most of the games (I mean "X test utilities") on it.) This should be pretty straightforward

RE: Problem: NIC doesn't work anymore Winbond 89C940

2001-06-06 Thread Ali Sanaie
Hi, I have the same problem with my network card Winbond 89C940 on a linksys etherPCI lan card II. The kernel recommends ne2k-pci for winbond, It's detected by the kernel but I get the "bogus packet size" error and it does not send any info! my kernel is 2.4.5 and RH7.1 is the system. which

Re: [driver] New life for Serial mice

2001-06-06 Thread James Simmons
> > > hmmm. I just looked over this, and drivers/char/joystick/ser*.[ch]. > > > > > > Bad trend. > > > > > > Serial needs to be treated just like parport: the basic hardware code, > > > then on top of that, a selection of drivers, all peers: dumb serial > > > port, serial mouse, joystick,

RE: kHTTPd hangs 2.4.5 boot when moduled

2001-06-06 Thread Manfred Spraul
Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit > > package RH7.0 has...2.4.2 and on needs... > util-linux 2.10m 2.10o > modutils2.3.21 2.4.2 > e2fsprogs 1.181.19 Which compiler do you use? The default

Re: PID's

2001-06-06 Thread Erik Mouw
On Tue, Jun 05, 2001 at 12:50:55PM -0700, android wrote: > Is there a way to recycle unused PID's without rebooting the kernel? > So instead of the next available PID always getting larger and larger, > just reset it to use the first unused PID after 1. Is this possible? It already works like

Re: temperature standard - global config option?

2001-06-06 Thread Paul Fulghum
> Kernel is worldwide, should not use anlo-saxon shifted units. Use the > International System of Units (SI) > http://physics.nist.gov/cuu/Units/units.html Hmmm... I don't see bogomips on this list! :-) Paul Fulghum [EMAIL PROTECTED] Microgate Corporation www.microgate.com - To unsubscribe

Re: isolating process..

2001-06-06 Thread Erik Mouw
On Tue, Jun 05, 2001 at 12:37:55PM +0300, Bohdan Vlasyuk wrote: > Is it possible by any means to isolate any given process, so that > it'll be unable to crash system. Suppose all the process needs is > stdin, stdout, and CPU time. Can Linux guarantee that given process > won't hurt system

RE: ethernet and pointopoint

2001-06-06 Thread Adam
> > From: Adam [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] > > Is there reason why I can't set pointopoint for ethernet? I have > > If your network cards & their drivers (both hosts) support full duplex > operation, just enable it, and you're done. did you read my email? The patch below has detailed

Re: VIA's Southbridge bug: Latest (pseudo-)patch

2001-06-06 Thread Gérard Roudier
On Sun, 3 Jun 2001, Adrian Cox wrote: > Marc Lehmann wrote: > > > > Aren't PCI delayed transaction supposed to be handled by the pci master > > (e.g. my northbridge), not by the (software) driver for my pdc(?) I would > > also be surprised if my pdc actually used that feature, not to speak

Re: Break 2.4 VM in five easy steps

2001-06-06 Thread Derek Glidden
Mike Galbraith wrote: > > Can you try the patch below to see if it helps? If you watch > with vmstat, you should see swap shrinking after your test. > Let is shrink a while and then see how long swapoff takes. > Under a normal load, it'll munch a handfull of them at least > once a second and

'SIG: sigpending lied' on 2.2.14 (Cobalt Networks)

2001-06-06 Thread Bart Trojanowski
I have been seeing 'SIG: sigpending lied' when I change the current->blocked value to ignore 'non shutdown' signals. The messages does not show up on 2.2.16. Searching with google I found a lot of problems being reported but no solutions... Is this a 2.2.14 "feature"? I ask because we have

Re: Break 2.4 VM in five easy steps

2001-06-06 Thread Eric W. Biederman
Mike Galbraith <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > On 6 Jun 2001, Eric W. Biederman wrote: > > > Derek Glidden <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > > > > > > > The problem I reported is not that 2.4 uses huge amounts of swap but > > > that trying to recover that swap off of disk under 2.4 can leave the > >

Re: temperature standard - global config option?

2001-06-06 Thread Matthias Urlichs
At 18:06 +0200 2001-06-06, Chris Boot wrote: >I'm sorry, by I don't feel like adding 273 to every number I get just to >find the temperature of something. That's much easier than subtracting 32 and multiplying by 5/9. ;-) > What I would do is give configuration >options to choose the default

Re: Break 2.4 VM in five easy steps

2001-06-06 Thread Derek Glidden
"Eric W. Biederman" wrote: > > Derek Glidden <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > > > The problem I reported is not that 2.4 uses huge amounts of swap but > > that trying to recover that swap off of disk under 2.4 can leave the > > machine in an entirely unresponsive state, while 2.2 handles identical

Re: temperature standard - global config option?

2001-06-06 Thread J . A . Magallon
On 06.06 john slee wrote: > > On Wed, Jun 06, 2001 at 02:27:22PM +0200, David N. Welton wrote: > > Perusing the kernel sources while investigating watchdog drivers, I > > notice that in some places, Fahrenheit is used, and in some places, > > Celsius. It would seem logical to me to have a

ide speeds

2001-06-06 Thread J . A . Magallon
Hi, A little test-question. I am getting some strange timings... Hardware: PIIX4: 00:07.1 IDE interface: Intel Corporation 82371AB PIIX4 IDE (rev 01) (prog-if 80 [Master]) Flags: bus master, medium devsel, latency 64 I/O ports at ffa0 [size=16] and a Creative 52mx CD-ROM

Re: Break 2.4 VM in five easy steps

2001-06-06 Thread Mike Galbraith
On 6 Jun 2001, Eric W. Biederman wrote: > Derek Glidden <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > > > > The problem I reported is not that 2.4 uses huge amounts of swap but > > that trying to recover that swap off of disk under 2.4 can leave the > > machine in an entirely unresponsive state, while 2.2

Re: Break 2.4 VM in five easy steps

2001-06-06 Thread android
>Furthermore, I am not demanding anything, much less "priority fixing" >for this bug. Its my personal opinion that this is the most critical bug >in the 2.4 series, and if I had the time and skill, this is what I would >be working on. Because I don't have the time and skill, I am perfectly

Re: temperature standard - global config option?

2001-06-06 Thread Dr. Kelsey Hudson
On 6 Jun 2001, David N. Welton wrote: > > [ please CC replies to me ] > > Perusing the kernel sources while investigating watchdog drivers, I > notice that in some places, Fahrenheit is used, and in some places, > Celsius. It would seem logical to me to have a global config option, > so that

Re: How to know HZ from userspace?

2001-06-06 Thread Tomas Telensky
> On Wed, Jun 06, 2001 at 08:09:33PM +0200, Tomas Telensky wrote: > > > Hi! > > > > > > Is there any way to read out the compile-time HZ value of the kernel? > > > > Why simply #include ? > > because the include file doesn't say anything about the HZ value of > the currently running kernel,

Re: Break 2.4 VM in five easy steps

2001-06-06 Thread Mike Galbraith
On Tue, 5 Jun 2001, Derek Glidden wrote: > After reading the messages to this list for the last couple of weeks and > playing around on my machine, I'm convinced that the VM system in 2.4 is > still severely broken. ... Hi, Can you try the patch below to see if it helps? If you watch with

Re: Break 2.4 VM in five easy steps

2001-06-06 Thread Eric W. Biederman
Derek Glidden <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > The problem I reported is not that 2.4 uses huge amounts of swap but > that trying to recover that swap off of disk under 2.4 can leave the > machine in an entirely unresponsive state, while 2.2 handles identical > situations gracefully. > The

Re: Break 2.4 VM in five easy steps

2001-06-06 Thread Mark Salisbury
On Wed, 06 Jun 2001, Dr S.M. Huen wrote: > The whole screaming match is about whether a drastic degradation on using > swap with less than the 2*RAM swap specified by the developers should lead > one to conclude that a kernel is "broken". I would argue that any system that performs substantially

Re: Break 2.4 VM in five easy steps

2001-06-06 Thread Derek Glidden
"Eric W. Biederman" wrote: > > > Or are you saying that if someone is unhappy with a particular > > situation, they should just keep their mouth shut and accept it? > > It's worth complaining about. It is also worth digging into and find > out what the real problem is. I have a hunch that

Re: Requirement: swap = RAM x 2.5 ??

2001-06-06 Thread Eric W. Biederman
Jeff Garzik <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > I'm sorry but this is a regression, plain and simple. > > Previous versons of Linux have worked great on diskless workstations > with NO swap. > > Swap is "extra space to be used if we have it" and nothing else. Given the slow speed of disks to use

RE: ethernet and pointopoint

2001-06-06 Thread Khachaturov, Vassilii
> From: Adam [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] > Is there reason why I can't set pointopoint for ethernet? I have If your network cards & their drivers (both hosts) support full duplex operation, just enable it, and you're done. V. - To unsubscribe from this list: send the line "unsubscribe

Re: How to know HZ from userspace?

2001-06-06 Thread Harald Welte
On Wed, Jun 06, 2001 at 08:09:33PM +0200, Tomas Telensky wrote: > > Hi! > > > > Is there any way to read out the compile-time HZ value of the kernel? > > Why simply #include ? because the include file doesn't say anything about the HZ value of the currently running kernel, but only about some

Re: VIA's Southbridge bug: Latest (pseudo-)patch

2001-06-06 Thread Dan Hollis
On Wed, 6 Jun 2001, Marc Lehmann wrote: > I *do* hate silent data corruption :() An "integrity loopback" device would certainly detect silent corruption. Eg a loopback which CRC's all blocks read/written and screams loudly if the CRC fails. -Dan - To unsubscribe from this list: send the line

ethernet and pointopoint

2001-06-06 Thread Adam
hello, Is there reason why I can't set pointopoint for ethernet? I have to computers (and two 100mbps ethernet cards) connected via null-modem ethernet cable (with no hub in between). So since there's no way to have more than two hosts talking to each other for

Re: Break 2.4 VM in five easy steps

2001-06-06 Thread Dr S.M. Huen
On Wed, 6 Jun 2001, Kurt Roeckx wrote: > On Wed, Jun 06, 2001 at 10:57:57AM +0100, Dr S.M. Huen wrote: > > On Wed, 6 Jun 2001, Sean Hunter wrote: > > > > > > > > For large memory boxes, this is ridiculous. Should I have 8GB of swap? > > > > > > > Do I understand you correctly? > > ECC grade

Re: Break 2.4 VM in five easy steps

2001-06-06 Thread Eric W. Biederman
Derek Glidden <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > John Alvord wrote: > > > > On Wed, 06 Jun 2001 11:31:28 -0400, Derek Glidden > > <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > > > > > >I'm beginning to be amazed at the Linux VM hackers' attitudes regarding > > >this problem. I expect this sort of behaviour

Re: Break 2.4 VM in five easy steps

2001-06-06 Thread José Luis Domingo López
On Wednesday, 06 June 2001, at 10:19:30 +0200, Xavier Bestel wrote: > On 05 Jun 2001 23:19:08 -0400, Derek Glidden wrote: > > On Wed, Jun 06, 2001 at 12:16:30PM +1000, Andrew Morton wrote: > [...] > Did you try to put twice as much swap as you have RAM ? (e.g. add a 512M > swapfile to your box)

Re: How to know HZ from userspace?

2001-06-06 Thread Tomas Telensky
> Hi! > > Is there any way to read out the compile-time HZ value of the kernel? Why simply #include ? Tomas > > I had a brief look at /proc/* and didn't find anything. > > The background, why it is needed: > > There are certain settings, for example the icmp rate limiting values,

Re: [patch] Re: Linux 2.4.5-ac6

2001-06-06 Thread Maciej W. Rozycki
On Wed, 6 Jun 2001, Jeff Garzik wrote: > There are two things you can do here, one is easy: use linker tricks to > make sure that an application built on alpha -- with 64-bit pointers -- > uses no more than the lower 32 bits of each pointer for addressing. > This should fix a ton of

Re: temperature standard - global config option?

2001-06-06 Thread José Luis Domingo López
On Wednesday, 06 June 2001, at 18:06:56 +0200, Chris Boot wrote: > Hi, > > > Please, don't. > > > > Use kelvins *0.1, and use them consistently everywhere. This is what > > ACPI does, and it is probably right. > > I'm sorry, by I don't feel like adding 273 to every number I get just to > find

Re: patches sound driver locking issue

2001-06-06 Thread Jeff Garzik
Frank Davis wrote: > > Hello all, > I have attached patches against the following sound drivers to fix the locking >issues mentioned in Alan's release notes for 2.4.5-ac9 . Please CC me on your >comments to the code (I can address the issues quicker). Thanks. Do these patches have the

Re: Linux 2.4.5-ac9

2001-06-06 Thread Tom Sightler
> 2.4.5-ac9 > o Fix xircom_cb problems with some cisco kit (Ion Badulescu) I'm not sure what this is supposed to fix, but it makes my Xircom RBEM56G-100 almost useless on my network at the office. Actually, I can't quite blame just this patch, it only makes the problem worse, the driver from

Re: Break 2.4 VM in five easy steps

2001-06-06 Thread Kurt Roeckx
On Wed, Jun 06, 2001 at 10:57:57AM +0100, Dr S.M. Huen wrote: > On Wed, 6 Jun 2001, Sean Hunter wrote: > > > > > For large memory boxes, this is ridiculous. Should I have 8GB of swap? > > > > Do I understand you correctly? > ECC grade SDRAM for your 8GB server costs £335 per GB as 512MB

Re: [driver] New life for Serial mice

2001-06-06 Thread Russell King
On Wed, Jun 06, 2001 at 07:01:58PM +0200, Vojtech Pavlik wrote: > On Wed, Jun 06, 2001 at 12:31:28PM -0400, Jeff Garzik wrote: > > hmmm. I just looked over this, and drivers/char/joystick/ser*.[ch]. > > > > Bad trend. > > > > Serial needs to be treated just like parport: the basic hardware

Re: Break 2.4 VM in five easy steps

2001-06-06 Thread Remi Turk
On Wed, Jun 06, 2001 at 06:48:32AM -0400, Alexander Viro wrote: > On Wed, 6 Jun 2001, Sean Hunter wrote: > > > This is completely bogus. I am not saying that I can't afford the swap. > > What I am saying is that it is completely broken to require this amount > > of swap given the boundaries of

patches sound driver locking issue

2001-06-06 Thread Frank Davis
Hello all, I have attached patches against the following sound drivers to fix the locking issues mentioned in Alan's release notes for 2.4.5-ac9 . Please CC me on your comments to the code (I can address the issues quicker). Thanks. drivers/sound/esssolo1.c drivers/sound/maestro.c

Re: [driver] New life for Serial mice

2001-06-06 Thread Vojtech Pavlik
On Wed, Jun 06, 2001 at 09:17:56AM -0700, James Simmons wrote: > Is it possible to move serio.c and serport.c up into drivers/char. I'm > finding many drivers that use this and it is a mess to have to enable > joysticks just to use other types of devices like touchscreens. Possible it indeed

Re: Requirement: swap = RAM x 2.5 ??

2001-06-06 Thread Greg Hennessy
In article <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, Richard Gooch <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > Swap is "extra space to be used if we have it" and nothing else. > > Sure. But Linux still works without swap. It's just that if you *do* > have swap, it works best with 2* RAM. There is a large difference between

Re: temperature standard - global config option?

2001-06-06 Thread Bill Pringlemeir
> "Peter" == Peter Svensson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: Peter> Kelvin (decikelvin?) is probably a good unit to use in the Peter> kernel. If you want something else you convert it in the Peter> programs you use to interact with the kernel. This is a Peter> usespace issue, I think. How

Re: [driver] New life for Serial mice

2001-06-06 Thread Vojtech Pavlik
On Wed, Jun 06, 2001 at 12:31:28PM -0400, Jeff Garzik wrote: > hmmm. I just looked over this, and drivers/char/joystick/ser*.[ch]. > > Bad trend. > > Serial needs to be treated just like parport: the basic hardware code, > then on top of that, a selection of drivers, all peers: dumb serial >

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