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> > > Given the choice between only "atime" and "noatime" I'd agree with you.
> > > Heck, I use it myself. But "relatime" seems
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On Sat, 2007-08-04 at 12:47 -0700, Linus Torvalds wrote:
On Sat, 4 Aug 2007, Jörn Engel wrote:
Given the choice between only atime and noatime I'd agree with you.
Heck, I use it myself. But relatime seems to combine the best
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ect warning but if we fix the warning old old binutils
> will then refuse to assemble it right.
What old old binutils ?
Isn't there a clear requirement for a minimum binutils version in
Documentation/Changes ( or maybe it is README ... ) ?
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to assemble it right.
What old old binutils ?
Isn't there a clear requirement for a minimum binutils version in
Documentation/Changes ( or maybe it is README ... ) ?
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> When is the 'CONFIG_APUS' flag used ?
On APUS systems ( Amiga PowerUp System - amigas with PPC cards )
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It should ( among other things ) improve concurent performance
of two devices on the same channel.
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Is there support in linux for ATA overlap/queuing ?
It should ( among other things ) improve concurent performance
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When is the 'CONFIG_APUS' flag used ?
On APUS systems ( Amiga PowerUp System - amigas with PPC cards )
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mehow have some "meaning", and that it guarantees that the
> disks don't move in the namespace. That's crap. You can do that in user
> space ("what controller are you on?") if you really really care.
So what is your solution for preventing a boot failure after disks
crap. You can do that in user
space (what controller are you on?) if you really really care.
So what is your solution for preventing a boot failure after disks/partitions
change ?
volume labels/UUID ?
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Andre , you promised ATA/IDE hot-swap on "normal" hardware
several weeks ( months ? ) ago. What happened ?
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Andre , you promised ATA/IDE hot-swap on "normal" hardware
several weeks ( months ? ) ago. What happened ?
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;audio_ioctl(cdi, CDROMREADTOCENTRY, ))
return ret;
sanitize_format(_addr, _format, CDROM_LBA);
*last_written = toc.cdte_addr.lba; # seems OK
return 0;
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turning off PCI Latency a good thing ?
Anyway the article (http://home.tiscalinet.de/au-ja/review-kt133a-4.html)
says that any value below 32 is good, so why not use 16 for example ?
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> Some settings:
According to your dmesg output , hde is working in UDMA/100.
Since hde is the only device on your ATA/100 ( the PDC20265 )
controller , I don't see any problem.
Are the transfer rates not good ?
Whet is the output of hdparm -ti /dev/hde ?
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> Try ide0=ata66 instead. The option should have been named ide0=80wire,
> but, well, "ata66" was chosen as the name, because that was it at the
> time.
Any chance of auto detecting this ?
I just hate when linux is relaying on the BIOS ...
BTW , why
just hate when linux is relaying on the BIOS ...
BTW , why are there 666 CONFIG_.*IDE.*DMA.* switches ?
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ding to your dmesg output , hde is working in UDMA/100.
Since hde is the only device on your ATA/100 ( the PDC20265 )
controller , I don't see any problem.
Are the transfer rates not good ?
Whet is the output of hdparm -ti /dev/hde ?
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Latency a good thing ?
Anyway the article (http://home.tiscalinet.de/au-ja/review-kt133a-4.html)
says that any value below 32 is good, so why not use 16 for example ?
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> > > The problem on my computer with my (re)im
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To implement off-button you only need the APM_IOC_REJECT ioctl and
The problem on my computer with my (re)implementation of
APM_IOC_REJECT is that the screen goes into powersaving when
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The maintainer hasn't the time to do it. He promised me he would in
February, when I telephone, but hasn't bothered to do anything
AFAICS. I
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the APM_IOC_REJECT ioctl which is useful for example
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It was just a line or two bugfix, not a real patch. I will dig it up
and send a patch for 2.4
When I have the time :-)
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candidate for a "reboot properly" button,
but there is no hardware support. That is why I used the power button,
which is ( more or less ) under software control.
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for a "reboot properly" button,
but there is no hardware support. That is why I used the power button,
which is ( more or less ) under software control.
Gerhard
On Fri, 23 Mar 2001, David Balazic wrote:
I had a similar experience:
X crashed , hosing the console , so I could no
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When I have the time :-)
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s done
with all modern hard drives and was done also on the Commodore 64
5.25 inch floppies ( at least they used different number of sectors
per track , I don't know if the actual bit density was variable or not )
> You can't
> do this with a floppy controller because the heads "step"
children never go close to any abyss or doesn't have
> alpinist a saying "never go to the limits"? So why is this simple rule
> always broken with computers?
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> O. Wyss
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E cable ( set to CABLE-SELECT , connected to the end connector;
you must always first use both connectors on the end of the cable !
never left one end unused )
Without doing any settings with hdparm, I get the full transfer rate
of the disk, measured with hdparm : ~35MB/s
kernel is 2.4.recent
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you must always first use both connectors on the end of the cable !
never left one end unused )
Without doing any settings with hdparm, I get the full transfer rate
of the disk, measured with hdparm : ~35MB/s
kernel is 2.4.recent or redhat recent 2.4.x versions.
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t;? So why is this simple rule
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You can't
do this with a floppy controller because the heads "step" to
discrete positions.
So you do it with "classic" concentrical tracks.
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> > > Also, sometime between ac7 and ac18 (spring break kept me from testing
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Also, sometime between ac7 and ac18 (spring break kept me from testing
stuff inbetween), i assume during the new aic7xxx driver merge, the
order of detection got changed, and now the ide-scsi virtual
isk enumeration ( sdb becomes sdc )
or partition enumeration ( hda6 becomes hda5 ).
* - theoreticaly no, but practicaly yes ( most of the time )
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or partition enumeration ( hda6 becomes hda5 ).
* - theoreticaly no, but practicaly yes ( most of the time )
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edictive sector stretcher as the energy from the
> inertia by the DC three-phase motor executes the dump.
So where is a list of drives that do this ?
www.list-of-hardware-that-doesnt-suck.com is not responding ...
> Ever wondered why modern drives have open collectors o
of drives that do this ?
www.list-of-hardware-that-doesnt-suck.com is not responding ...
Ever wondered why modern drives have open collectors on the databuss?
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Alan is right - we needs a "sync" command or something. I don't know
> if IDE has one (it already might, for all I know).
ATA , SCSI and ATAPI all have a FLUSH_CACHE command. (*)
Whether the drives implement it is another question ...
(*) references :
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s mythical port of the 'file-access
> monitoring daemon'
This notification exists in 2.4.x ( at least the docs say so :-)
see /usr/src/linux/Documentation/dnotify.txt
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On Mon, Feb 19, 2001 at 01:45:57PM +0100, David Balazic wrote:
> It is a good idea IMO to flush the write cache of storage devices
> at shutdown and other critical mome
CONFIG_TQM8xxL.
include/asm-ppc/tqm8xx.h: 72: need CONFIG_TQM860.
net/lapb/lapb_iface.c: 18: not needed.
[root@localhost linux]# head Makefile
VERSION = 2
PATCHLEVEL = 4
SUBLEVEL = 3
EXTRAVERSION =-pre2
someone should also run 'make checkhelp' ...
reports a LOT of missing help text
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On Mon, Feb 19, 2001 at 01:45:57PM +0100, David Balazic wrote:
It is a good idea IMO to flush the write cache of storage devices
at shutdown and other critical moments.
Not needed. All devi
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ATA , SCSI and ATAPI all have a FLUSH_CACHE command. (*)
Whether the drives implement it is another question ...
(*) references :
ATA-6 draft standard from www.t13.org
MtFuji document from ????
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ave to patch the kernel.
Or : echo 0 > /proc/sys/dev/cdrom/lock
( I am not sure if this is the right filename )
Or run magicdev ;-)
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> Zero is a counting number. 0->255 == 1->256.
I don't understand.
This doesn't explain (value) is bigger than (max).
Are you saying that (value) is counted from 1 , while
(max) ( and min too ? ) is counted from 0 ?
david
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matically enable DMA for PCI-IDE" kernel configuration
option. It is said in the help text for the VIA-IDE option.
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Zero is a counting number. 0-255 == 1-256.
I don't understand.
This doesn't explain (value) is bigger than (max).
Are you saying that (value) is counted from 1 , while
(max) ( and min too ? ) is counted from 0 ?
david
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IA IDE v4.3
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if the journal is not stored on non-volatile
memory, which is not guarantied in the current kernel.
What is the official word on this issue ?
I think this is important to the "enterprise" guys, at the least.
Sincerely,
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if the journal is not stored on non-volatile
memory, which is not guarantied in the current kernel.
What is the official word on this issue ?
I think this is important to the "enterprise" guys, at the least.
Sincerely,
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ks that would normally be inaccessible through
> the normal API seemed like the best bet to me.
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I was deliberately trying to limit the scope to avoid misuse. This is to
work around a flaw in the current API, not to create a new API. Limiting
access to only those blocks that would normally be inaccessible through
the normal API seemed like the best bet to me.
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not 2.4.1)
>> dual Pentium III 933 MHz (STL2 board)
>> SAMSUNG 20 GB IDE hard drive
> > ServerWorks chipset
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IDE Secondary slave : nothing
both set to "cable select"
both cables are ATA-66 , 80-wire cables
( the system is not oveclocked :-)
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AMD Duron 700MHz CPU
IDE Primary master : Quantum Fireball lct20 harddisk 20 GB
IDE Primary slave: nothing
IDE Secondary master : Teac CD532E-B , CDROM drive
IDE Secondary slave : nothing
both set to "cable select"
both cables are ATA-66 , 80-wire cables
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e logical ones. That is true with /dev/sdXP case as well
> as with /dev/hdXP case.
What is the difference between physical and logical partitions ?
How does this solve the "I deleted hda5 and now the old hda6 became
hda5"
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sdc , which doesn't exists any more ???
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In the end I re-wrote most of the patch, so
that we resolve ROOT_DEV before calling mount_root(), just to be a bit
more consistent. I will release a new patch for 2.2.18 and 2.4.0 after
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and logical partitions ?
How does this solve the "I deleted hda5 and now the old hda6 became
hda5"
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change this before you insert the other disk. Possibilities :
( to change in /etc/fstab)
- use UUID instead of volume-label -> no conflicts ever
- temporarily relabel your /home
- temporarily use a device node
>
> so tell me then, how would one discern
> > The only problem is BIOS boot. That information is, I believe, stored in the
> > ESCD, but I don't know if it's reliable enough and complete enough to be usable
> > by Linux.
>
> It seems to work well enough.
For the "load the kernel" part.
Most of the t
n /etc/fstab (i.e. LABEL= and UUID=
> instead of L: and UUID:).
A trivial change...
> In the end I re-wrote most of the patch, so
> that we resolve ROOT_DEV before calling mount_root(), just to be a bit
> more consistent. I will release a new patch for 2.2.18 and 2.4.0 after
> Davi
hat are assigned in the
"order I found them today" , like audio devices , network devices etc...
BTW, where is the scsihosts= kernel parameter documented ?
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BTW, where is the scsihosts= kernel parameter documented ?
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A trivial change...
In the end I re-wrote most of the patch, so
that we resolve ROOT_DEV before calling mount_root(), just to be a bit
more consistent. I will release a new patch for 2.2.18 and 2.4.0 after
David Balazic has a look at it.
Cool, send it to me !
I know a bit about LILO, so I
x.
It seems to work well enough.
For the "load the kernel" part.
Most of the times.
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UUID instead of volume-label - no conflicts ever
- temporarily relabel your /home
- temporarily use a device node
so tell me then, how would one discern between two partitions with the
same label?
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mplained about this years ago , but nothing happened.
If someone knows a way to reliably find a certain partition ,
regardless of the (non)existence and position of other partitions
and disks in the system , short of scanning the contents of all
available
partitions , please tell me.
Party
/dspX and
X * 16 + 4 for /dev/audioX
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X * 16 + 4 for /dev/audioX
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someone knows a way to reliably find a certain partition ,
regardless of the (non)existence and position of other partitions
and disks in the system , short of scanning the contents of all
available
partitions , please tell me.
Party on !
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Tobias Ringstrom wrote:
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> On Mon, 15 Jan 2001, David Balazic wrote:
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> > It also reports something like :
> > PCI chipset unknown : assuming transparent
>
> Are you sure it's not
>
> Unknown bridge resource 0: assuming transparent
Might be, I don't remem
A recent 2.4.0 ( not the final , but close ) kernel prints this :
mtrr: detected mtrr type: intel
I have an AMD K7 Duron 700 CPU
Is this correct ?
It also reports something like :
PCI chipset unknown : assuming transparent
I have a VIA KT133 chipset
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