RE: [ADMIN] some list related topics ..

2000-10-20 Thread Alexander Viro
On Thu, 19 Oct 2000, Marty Fouts wrote: > > -Original Message- > > From: Matti Aarnio [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] > > Sent: Thursday, October 19, 2000 1:26 PM > > To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > Subject: [ADMIN] some list related topics .. > > [snip] >

Re: [ADMIN] some list related topics ..

2000-10-20 Thread David S. Miller
From: Marty Fouts <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Date:Thu, 19 Oct 2000 19:30:33 -0700 > -Original Message- > From: Matti Aarnio [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] > Sent: Thursday, October 19, 2000 1:26 PM > To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > Subject: [ADMIN] som

Re: [ADMIN] some list related topics ..

2000-10-20 Thread Matti Aarnio
On Thu, Oct 19, 2000 at 07:30:33PM -0700, Marty Fouts wrote: > [snip] > > > > 3) some ISP systems yield 500 series errors with text: > > "system is temporarily busy" > > or something of that effect. Now THAT is really offensive > > stupidity by the ISP software folks... > > Th

RE: [ADMIN] some list related topics ..

2000-10-20 Thread Marty Fouts
> -Original Message- > From: Matti Aarnio [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] > Sent: Thursday, October 19, 2000 1:26 PM > To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > Subject: [ADMIN] some list related topics .. [snip] > > 3) some ISP systems yield 500 series errors with text: >

Re: [ADMIN] some list related topics ..

2000-10-19 Thread Matti Aarnio
On Thu, Oct 19, 2000 at 03:08:12PM -0700, Philippe Troin wrote: > 8< snip >8 > > > For the subset 1 above, I am preparing to begin to run regularly > > (weekly very least, daily possibly) scanner which tries interactive > > testing of recipients address at all of user's domain's MX servers, > >

Re: [ADMIN] some list related topics ..

2000-10-19 Thread Philippe Troin
Matti Aarnio <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > We ([EMAIL PROTECTED] -> me & DaveM) got just reports that > somebody is diverting incoming email to some sort of auto-responding > ticket system. > > The thing does not carry original message "Received:" headers in replies, > and is reporting invalid U

Re: [ADMIN] some list related topics ..

2000-10-19 Thread Jeff V. Merkey
Matti Aarnio wrote: > > On Thu, Oct 19, 2000 at 03:08:46PM -0600, Jeff V. Merkey wrote: > > Matt said someone was diverting email. diverting or intercepting email > > is a crime in the US. > > Perhaps Matt was wrong? > > Or using words which have different sets of meanings for you >

Re: [ADMIN] some list related topics ..

2000-10-19 Thread Matti Aarnio
On Thu, Oct 19, 2000 at 03:08:46PM -0600, Jeff V. Merkey wrote: > Matt said someone was diverting email. diverting or intercepting email > is a crime in the US. > Perhaps Matt was wrong? Or using words which have different sets of meanings for you (lawyer mind?) vs. me (techn

Re: [ADMIN] some list related topics ..

2000-10-19 Thread Jeff V. Merkey
It's up to you guys what you want to do. I was just giving you a bigger club to use, if you needed it. Playing games with LKML is not cool since about a dozen companies who ship Linux (including now us) depend on it as an "essential facility" of our businesses to get bug reports and track the

Re: [ADMIN] some list related topics ..

2000-10-19 Thread Matti Aarnio
On Thu, Oct 19, 2000 at 02:40:36PM -0600, Jeff V. Merkey wrote: > Matt, > > A legal perspective. > > It is a Felony Federal) in the United States to divert or re-route > emails on the internet, ... > I would suggest calling the FBI office in your area and file a formal > complaint. You can be

Re: [ADMIN] some list related topics ..

2000-10-19 Thread Jeff V. Merkey
Matt said someone was diverting email. diverting or intercepting email is a crime in the US. Perhaps Matt was wrong? :-) Jeff "H. Peter Anvin" wrote: > > Followup to: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > By author:"Jeff V. Merkey" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > In newsgroup: linux.dev.kernel > > > > If som

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2000-10-19 Thread H. Peter Anvin
Followup to: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> By author:"Jeff V. Merkey" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> In newsgroup: linux.dev.kernel > > If someone committs a crime in the US, and you don't report it, you have > also just committed another one by failing to report it (like if you > witness a murder, and turn and

Re: [ADMIN] some list related topics ..

2000-10-19 Thread David S. Miller
Date:Thu, 19 Oct 2000 14:40:36 -0600 From: "Jeff V. Merkey" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> A legal perspective. We have no interest in sending the FBI to go knock down someones doors, just removing the offending address and fixing the problem, thats all. I used to live in New Jersey, wher

Re: [ADMIN] some list related topics ..

2000-10-19 Thread Jeff V. Merkey
Matt, A legal perspective. It is a Felony Federal) in the United States to divert or re-route emails on the internet, esspecially across interstate lines. It's also a Felony (Federal) to misuse and email address to disrupt interstate or international commerce. I would suggest calling the FBI

[ADMIN] some list related topics ..

2000-10-19 Thread Matti Aarnio
We ([EMAIL PROTECTED] -> me & DaveM) got just reports that somebody is diverting incoming email to some sort of auto-responding ticket system. The thing does not carry original message "Received:" headers in replies, and is reporting invalid URL. Independent of that, people with supposedly work