>>> Nobody has a problem understanding "blacklist" and "whitelist". These
>>> are universally understood words even outside of computing. Claiming
>>> that we need clearer alternatives is smoke and mirrors.
>>
>> Actually, as a non-native English speaker, the first time I saw
>> "list", I had to
On Thu, 2020-07-09 at 17:13 +0100, Mark Brown wrote:
> On Thu, Jul 09, 2020 at 10:01:18AM -0600, Shuah Khan wrote:
> > On 7/9/20 4:43 AM, Mauro Carvalho Chehab wrote:
> > > For coherency, if "blacklist/whitelist" won't be used anymore, an
> > > alternative to graylist should also be provided.
> >
On 7/9/20 4:43 AM, Mauro Carvalho Chehab wrote:
Em Tue, 7 Jul 2020 01:58:21 +0200
Tibor Raschko escreveu:
Allowlist/denylist terms are intuitive and action based which have a
globally uniform meaning.
Nobody has a problem understanding "blacklist" and "whitelist". These
are universally
Em Tue, 7 Jul 2020 01:58:21 +0200
Tibor Raschko escreveu:
> > Allowlist/denylist terms are intuitive and action based which have a
> > globally uniform meaning.
>
> Nobody has a problem understanding "blacklist" and "whitelist". These
> are universally understood words even outside of
On 08/07/2020 06:42, Stephen Hemminger wrote:
> On Tue, 7 Jul 2020 02:03:36 +0300
> Pavel Begunkov wrote:
>
>> On 07/07/2020 01:28, Steven Rostedt wrote:
>>> On Tue, 7 Jul 2020 01:17:47 +0300
>>> Pavel Begunkov wrote:
>>>
Totally agree with you! But do we care then whether two _devices_
On Tue, 7 Jul 2020 02:03:36 +0300
Pavel Begunkov wrote:
> On 07/07/2020 01:28, Steven Rostedt wrote:
> > On Tue, 7 Jul 2020 01:17:47 +0300
> > Pavel Begunkov wrote:
> >
> >> Totally agree with you! But do we care then whether two _devices_ or
> >> _objects_
> >> are slave-master? Can't see
On Tue, Jul 07, 2020 at 05:45:42PM +0300, Mike Rapoport wrote:
> On Tue, Jul 07, 2020 at 09:41:47AM -0400, Steven Rostedt wrote:
> > On Tue, 7 Jul 2020 01:54:23 -0700
> > Kees Cook wrote:
> >
> > > "I will whitelist the syscall" -- sounds correct to me (same for
> > > "it is whitelisted" or "it
> -Original Message-
> From: Steven Rostedt
>
> On Tue, 7 Jul 2020 09:49:21 +0300
> Mike Rapoport wrote:
>
> > > But that's all fine. The change is easy to do and is more descriptive
> > > even if I can't find terms that don't collide with my internal grammar
> > > checker. ;)
> >
>
> -Original Message-
> From: Steven Rostedt
>
> On Tue, 7 Jul 2020 08:33:33 -0700
> Randy Dunlap wrote:
>
> > >> I was thinking good-list / bad-list.
> > >>
> > >> /me that has been doing a lot of git bisect lately...
> > >
> > > I think it depends on the context. I'd prefer a
On Tue, 7 Jul 2020 08:33:33 -0700
Randy Dunlap wrote:
> >> I was thinking good-list / bad-list.
> >>
> >> /me that has been doing a lot of git bisect lately...
> >
> > I think it depends on the context. I'd prefer a grammatically awkward verb
> > that described
> > the action more
On 7/7/20 8:24 AM, Bird, Tim wrote:
>
>
>> -Original Message-
>> From: Steven Rostedt
>>
>> On Tue, 7 Jul 2020 09:49:21 +0300
>> Mike Rapoport wrote:
>>
But that's all fine. The change is easy to do and is more descriptive
even if I can't find terms that don't collide with my
On Tue, Jul 07, 2020 at 09:41:47AM -0400, Steven Rostedt wrote:
> On Tue, 7 Jul 2020 01:54:23 -0700
> Kees Cook wrote:
>
> > "I will whitelist the syscall" -- sounds correct to me (same for
> > "it is whitelisted" or "it is in whitelisting mode").
> >
> > "I will allow-list the syscall" --
On Mon, Jul 06, 2020 at 01:15:38PM +0200, Michael Kerrisk (man-pages) wrote:
> On 7/5/20 3:10 AM, Kees Cook wrote:
> > On Sat, Jul 04, 2020 at 08:10:33PM -0400, Matthew Wilcox wrote:
> >> Left-right tree makes no sense. It doesn't distinguish the rbtree from its
> >> predecessor the avl tree. I
On 7/5/20 3:10 AM, Kees Cook wrote:
> On Sat, Jul 04, 2020 at 08:10:33PM -0400, Matthew Wilcox wrote:
>> Left-right tree makes no sense. It doesn't distinguish the rbtree from its
>> predecessor the avl tree. I don't think it's helpful to rename a standard
>> piece of computing terminology unless
On Sun, 5 Jul 2020 09:39:29 +1000
Dave Airlie wrote:
> I don't totally agree on that, because like the CoC discussion, people
> need concrete examples. People need reasons, saying simply "be
> inclusive" doesn't work.
Which people? because so far the only people I've seen take these
On Sun, Jul 05, 2020 at 09:39:29AM +1000, Dave Airlie wrote:
> I don't totally agree on that, because like the CoC discussion, people
> need concrete examples. People need reasons, saying simply "be
> inclusive" doesn't work.
>
> You say "be inclusive" people don't think about it, they just go
On Sun, 2020-07-05 at 09:39 +1000, Dave Airlie wrote:
> Why haven't they submitted patches
> removing slavery terminology from the kernel before?
Because inhuman devices in a master/slave hierarchy isn't
anything like chattel slavery?
Blacklist/whitelist has nothing to do with skin color?
Are
On Sun, 5 Jul 2020 at 07:25, James Bottomley
wrote:
>
> On Sat, 2020-07-04 at 13:02 -0700, Dan Williams wrote:
> [...]
> > diff --git a/Documentation/process/inclusive-terminology.rst
> > b/Documentation/process/inclusive-terminology.rst
> > new file mode 100644
> > index
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