Re: [PATCH 3/3] net: wireless: bcm43xx: big_buffer_sem semaphore to mutex

2007-12-19 Thread Ingo Molnar
* Michael Buesch <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > On Wednesday 19 December 2007 09:11:02 Larry Finger wrote: > > > > > > or could tsc being marked as unstable have anything to do with the > > > speed of network transfers? > > > > Absolutely not. > > Well, if the clocksource of the machine is

Re: [PATCH 3/3] net: wireless: bcm43xx: big_buffer_sem semaphore to mutex

2007-12-19 Thread Larry Finger
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: > Larry, thanks for being so patient so far. Tomorrow I plan to take my > laptop to somewhere with coffee and a wireless network. For now > though, can you tell me if these messages could be related: > PCI: Cannot allocate resource region 7 of bridge :00:05.0 > PCI:

Re: [PATCH 3/3] net: wireless: bcm43xx: big_buffer_sem semaphore to mutex

2007-12-19 Thread Larry Finger
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Larry, thanks for being so patient so far. Tomorrow I plan to take my laptop to somewhere with coffee and a wireless network. For now though, can you tell me if these messages could be related: PCI: Cannot allocate resource region 7 of bridge :00:05.0 PCI: Cannot

Re: [PATCH 3/3] net: wireless: bcm43xx: big_buffer_sem semaphore to mutex

2007-12-19 Thread Ingo Molnar
* Michael Buesch [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Wednesday 19 December 2007 09:11:02 Larry Finger wrote: or could tsc being marked as unstable have anything to do with the speed of network transfers? Absolutely not. Well, if the clocksource of the machine is unstable it _can_

Re: [PATCH 3/3] net: wireless: bcm43xx: big_buffer_sem semaphore to mutex

2007-12-18 Thread mvtodevnull
Larry, thanks for being so patient so far. Tomorrow I plan to take my laptop to somewhere with coffee and a wireless network. For now though, can you tell me if these messages could be related: PCI: Cannot allocate resource region 7 of bridge :00:05.0 PCI: Cannot allocate resource region 8 of

Re: [PATCH 3/3] net: wireless: bcm43xx: big_buffer_sem semaphore to mutex

2007-12-18 Thread mvtodevnull
Larry, thanks for being so patient so far. Tomorrow I plan to take my laptop to somewhere with coffee and a wireless network. For now though, can you tell me if these messages could be related: PCI: Cannot allocate resource region 7 of bridge :00:05.0 PCI: Cannot allocate resource region 8 of

Re: [PATCH 3/3] net: wireless: bcm43xx: big_buffer_sem semaphore to mutex

2007-12-17 Thread mvtodevnull
On Dec 17, 2007 8:16 PM, Larry Finger <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > I hope that you have now convinced yourself that you should be using b43 and > not messing around > forcing b43legacy to use a device for which it was not intended. > I was convinced the moment I realized it worked exactly the

Re: [PATCH 3/3] net: wireless: bcm43xx: big_buffer_sem semaphore to mutex

2007-12-17 Thread Larry Finger
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: > > I don't know what happened before, but after a reboot, I can't repeat > the 200 kB/s speed. It's back down to 40 kB/s, just like originally. I > didn't move the laptop, or the ap, the only thing I can think of that > might have changed is the noise level. FWIW, link

Re: [PATCH 3/3] net: wireless: bcm43xx: big_buffer_sem semaphore to mutex

2007-12-17 Thread mvtodevnull
On Dec 17, 2007 6:18 PM, Michael Buesch <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > On Tuesday 18 December 2007 00:12:30 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: > > > > Well, I'm not sure what you mean by "requires" b43, but I did say that > > the device uses the b43 driver. > > Requires means requires. > Ok, noted. > >

Re: [PATCH 3/3] net: wireless: bcm43xx: big_buffer_sem semaphore to mutex

2007-12-17 Thread Michael Buesch
On Tuesday 18 December 2007 00:12:30 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: > On Dec 17, 2007 5:45 PM, Michael Buesch <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > > Ehm, excuse me. > > What are you doing exactly? In this thread you told me you have > > a device which requires b43: > > > > Well, I'm not sure what you mean

Re: [PATCH 3/3] net: wireless: bcm43xx: big_buffer_sem semaphore to mutex

2007-12-17 Thread mvtodevnull
On Dec 17, 2007 5:45 PM, Michael Buesch <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > Ehm, excuse me. > What are you doing exactly? In this thread you told me you have > a device which requires b43: > Well, I'm not sure what you mean by "requires" b43, but I did say that the device uses the b43 driver. > > I

Re: [PATCH 3/3] net: wireless: bcm43xx: big_buffer_sem semaphore to mutex

2007-12-17 Thread Michael Buesch
On Monday 17 December 2007 23:04:37 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: > On Dec 17, 2007 5:35 AM, <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > If this is a mac80211 related problem, then other systems connecting > > to the same ap and using mac80211 would also be affected? Like I said > > earlier, there are five

Re: [PATCH 3/3] net: wireless: bcm43xx: big_buffer_sem semaphore to mutex

2007-12-17 Thread mvtodevnull
On Dec 17, 2007 5:35 AM, <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > If this is a mac80211 related problem, then other systems connecting > to the same ap and using mac80211 would also be affected? Like I said > earlier, there are five machines connecting to this ap, and I just > realized one of them has a

Re: [PATCH 3/3] net: wireless: bcm43xx: big_buffer_sem semaphore to mutex

2007-12-17 Thread mvtodevnull
If this is a mac80211 related problem, then other systems connecting to the same ap and using mac80211 would also be affected? Like I said earlier, there are five machines connecting to this ap, and I just realized one of them has a ralink card that uses the rt2x00 driver, which I believe is

Re: [PATCH 3/3] net: wireless: bcm43xx: big_buffer_sem semaphore to mutex

2007-12-17 Thread mvtodevnull
On Dec 17, 2007 4:49 AM, Michael Buesch <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > Are you working with wireless-2.6's #everything branch? I've been working with vanilla wireless-2.6, but I've also tried the everything branch as well as other trees. Just for good measure, I just rebuilt the everything branch

Re: [PATCH 3/3] net: wireless: bcm43xx: big_buffer_sem semaphore to mutex

2007-12-17 Thread Michael Buesch
On Monday 17 December 2007 08:17:58 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: > On Dec 17, 2007 1:52 AM, Larry Finger <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > > One major difference between bcm43xx-SoftMAC and b43-mac80211 is that the > > former always used a fixed > > rate; whereas mac80211 tries to adjust the bit rate

Re: [PATCH 3/3] net: wireless: bcm43xx: big_buffer_sem semaphore to mutex

2007-12-17 Thread Michael Buesch
On Monday 17 December 2007 08:17:58 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Dec 17, 2007 1:52 AM, Larry Finger [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: One major difference between bcm43xx-SoftMAC and b43-mac80211 is that the former always used a fixed rate; whereas mac80211 tries to adjust the bit rate according

Re: [PATCH 3/3] net: wireless: bcm43xx: big_buffer_sem semaphore to mutex

2007-12-17 Thread mvtodevnull
On Dec 17, 2007 4:49 AM, Michael Buesch [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Are you working with wireless-2.6's #everything branch? I've been working with vanilla wireless-2.6, but I've also tried the everything branch as well as other trees. Just for good measure, I just rebuilt the everything branch and

Re: [PATCH 3/3] net: wireless: bcm43xx: big_buffer_sem semaphore to mutex

2007-12-17 Thread mvtodevnull
If this is a mac80211 related problem, then other systems connecting to the same ap and using mac80211 would also be affected? Like I said earlier, there are five machines connecting to this ap, and I just realized one of them has a ralink card that uses the rt2x00 driver, which I believe is

Re: [PATCH 3/3] net: wireless: bcm43xx: big_buffer_sem semaphore to mutex

2007-12-17 Thread mvtodevnull
On Dec 17, 2007 5:35 AM, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: If this is a mac80211 related problem, then other systems connecting to the same ap and using mac80211 would also be affected? Like I said earlier, there are five machines connecting to this ap, and I just realized one of them has a ralink

Re: [PATCH 3/3] net: wireless: bcm43xx: big_buffer_sem semaphore to mutex

2007-12-17 Thread Michael Buesch
On Monday 17 December 2007 23:04:37 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Dec 17, 2007 5:35 AM, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: If this is a mac80211 related problem, then other systems connecting to the same ap and using mac80211 would also be affected? Like I said earlier, there are five machines

Re: [PATCH 3/3] net: wireless: bcm43xx: big_buffer_sem semaphore to mutex

2007-12-17 Thread mvtodevnull
On Dec 17, 2007 5:45 PM, Michael Buesch [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Ehm, excuse me. What are you doing exactly? In this thread you told me you have a device which requires b43: Well, I'm not sure what you mean by requires b43, but I did say that the device uses the b43 driver. I don't know

Re: [PATCH 3/3] net: wireless: bcm43xx: big_buffer_sem semaphore to mutex

2007-12-17 Thread Michael Buesch
On Tuesday 18 December 2007 00:12:30 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Dec 17, 2007 5:45 PM, Michael Buesch [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Ehm, excuse me. What are you doing exactly? In this thread you told me you have a device which requires b43: Well, I'm not sure what you mean by requires

Re: [PATCH 3/3] net: wireless: bcm43xx: big_buffer_sem semaphore to mutex

2007-12-17 Thread mvtodevnull
On Dec 17, 2007 6:18 PM, Michael Buesch [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Tuesday 18 December 2007 00:12:30 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Well, I'm not sure what you mean by requires b43, but I did say that the device uses the b43 driver. Requires means requires. Ok, noted. Sorry, I should have

Re: [PATCH 3/3] net: wireless: bcm43xx: big_buffer_sem semaphore to mutex

2007-12-17 Thread Larry Finger
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I don't know what happened before, but after a reboot, I can't repeat the 200 kB/s speed. It's back down to 40 kB/s, just like originally. I didn't move the laptop, or the ap, the only thing I can think of that might have changed is the noise level. FWIW, link

Re: [PATCH 3/3] net: wireless: bcm43xx: big_buffer_sem semaphore to mutex

2007-12-17 Thread mvtodevnull
On Dec 17, 2007 8:16 PM, Larry Finger [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I hope that you have now convinced yourself that you should be using b43 and not messing around forcing b43legacy to use a device for which it was not intended. I was convinced the moment I realized it worked exactly the same as

Re: [PATCH 3/3] net: wireless: bcm43xx: big_buffer_sem semaphore to mutex

2007-12-16 Thread mvtodevnull
On Dec 17, 2007 1:52 AM, Larry Finger <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > One major difference between bcm43xx-SoftMAC and b43-mac80211 is that the > former always used a fixed > rate; whereas mac80211 tries to adjust the bit rate according to the > transmission conditions. > Perhaps it isn't working

Re: [PATCH 3/3] net: wireless: bcm43xx: big_buffer_sem semaphore to mutex

2007-12-16 Thread Larry Finger
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: > On Dec 15, 2007 7:38 AM, <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: >> I'll build latest wireless git without ipv6 late tonight. > > Ok, built and tested, and it's actually faster! Although still not as > fast as bcm43xx or softmac or whatever the problem is, I was getting a > steady

Re: [PATCH 3/3] net: wireless: bcm43xx: big_buffer_sem semaphore to mutex

2007-12-16 Thread mvtodevnull
On Dec 15, 2007 7:38 AM, <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > I'll build latest wireless git without ipv6 late tonight. Ok, built and tested, and it's actually faster! Although still not as fast as bcm43xx or softmac or whatever the problem is, I was getting a steady 200 kB/s (as opposed to 500 kB/s

Re: [PATCH 3/3] net: wireless: bcm43xx: big_buffer_sem semaphore to mutex

2007-12-16 Thread Johannes Berg
> > On Sun, 2007-12-16 at 00:27 +0100, Michael Buesch wrote: > > > On Sunday 16 December 2007 00:18:43 Rafael J. Wysocki wrote: > > > > Well, the only problem with that is I suspect there are some "newer" > > > > cards that > > > > work better with v3 firmware, although they are supposed to

Re: [PATCH 3/3] net: wireless: bcm43xx: big_buffer_sem semaphore to mutex

2007-12-16 Thread Rafael J. Wysocki
On Sunday, 16 of December 2007, Johannes Berg wrote: > > On Sun, 2007-12-16 at 00:27 +0100, Michael Buesch wrote: > > On Sunday 16 December 2007 00:18:43 Rafael J. Wysocki wrote: > > > Well, the only problem with that is I suspect there are some "newer" > > > cards that > > > work better with v3

Re: [PATCH 3/3] net: wireless: bcm43xx: big_buffer_sem semaphore to mutex

2007-12-16 Thread Johannes Berg
On Sun, 2007-12-16 at 00:27 +0100, Michael Buesch wrote: > On Sunday 16 December 2007 00:18:43 Rafael J. Wysocki wrote: > > Well, the only problem with that is I suspect there are some "newer" cards > > that > > work better with v3 firmware, although they are supposed to support both.

Re: [PATCH 3/3] net: wireless: bcm43xx: big_buffer_sem semaphore to mutex

2007-12-16 Thread Michael Buesch
On Sunday 16 December 2007 10:22:43 Ingo Molnar wrote: > > * John W. Linville <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > > It's not that simple. For example, regression testing will be a > > > major PITA if one needs to switch back and forth from the new driver > > > to the old one in the process. > >

Re: [PATCH 3/3] net: wireless: bcm43xx: big_buffer_sem semaphore to mutex

2007-12-16 Thread Michael Buesch
On Sunday 16 December 2007 03:30:16 Larry Finger wrote: > Michael Buesch wrote: > > On Sunday 16 December 2007 00:18:43 Rafael J. Wysocki wrote: > >> Well, the only problem with that is I suspect there are some "newer" cards > >> that > >> work better with v3 firmware, although they are supposed

Re: [PATCH 3/3] net: wireless: bcm43xx: big_buffer_sem semaphore to mutex

2007-12-16 Thread Ingo Molnar
* John W. Linville <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > It's not that simple. For example, regression testing will be a > > major PITA if one needs to switch back and forth from the new driver > > to the old one in the process. > > Not really true -- a single system can easily have firmware

Re: [PATCH 3/3] net: wireless: bcm43xx: big_buffer_sem semaphore to mutex

2007-12-16 Thread mvtodevnull
On Dec 15, 2007 7:38 AM, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I'll build latest wireless git without ipv6 late tonight. Ok, built and tested, and it's actually faster! Although still not as fast as bcm43xx or softmac or whatever the problem is, I was getting a steady 200 kB/s (as opposed to 500 kB/s for

Re: [PATCH 3/3] net: wireless: bcm43xx: big_buffer_sem semaphore to mutex

2007-12-16 Thread Larry Finger
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Dec 15, 2007 7:38 AM, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I'll build latest wireless git without ipv6 late tonight. Ok, built and tested, and it's actually faster! Although still not as fast as bcm43xx or softmac or whatever the problem is, I was getting a steady 200 kB/s

Re: [PATCH 3/3] net: wireless: bcm43xx: big_buffer_sem semaphore to mutex

2007-12-16 Thread mvtodevnull
On Dec 17, 2007 1:52 AM, Larry Finger [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: One major difference between bcm43xx-SoftMAC and b43-mac80211 is that the former always used a fixed rate; whereas mac80211 tries to adjust the bit rate according to the transmission conditions. Perhaps it isn't working quite

Re: [PATCH 3/3] net: wireless: bcm43xx: big_buffer_sem semaphore to mutex

2007-12-16 Thread Ingo Molnar
* John W. Linville [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: It's not that simple. For example, regression testing will be a major PITA if one needs to switch back and forth from the new driver to the old one in the process. Not really true -- a single system can easily have firmware installed for

Re: [PATCH 3/3] net: wireless: bcm43xx: big_buffer_sem semaphore to mutex

2007-12-16 Thread Michael Buesch
On Sunday 16 December 2007 03:30:16 Larry Finger wrote: Michael Buesch wrote: On Sunday 16 December 2007 00:18:43 Rafael J. Wysocki wrote: Well, the only problem with that is I suspect there are some newer cards that work better with v3 firmware, although they are supposed to support

Re: [PATCH 3/3] net: wireless: bcm43xx: big_buffer_sem semaphore to mutex

2007-12-16 Thread Michael Buesch
On Sunday 16 December 2007 10:22:43 Ingo Molnar wrote: * John W. Linville [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: It's not that simple. For example, regression testing will be a major PITA if one needs to switch back and forth from the new driver to the old one in the process. Not really

Re: [PATCH 3/3] net: wireless: bcm43xx: big_buffer_sem semaphore to mutex

2007-12-16 Thread Johannes Berg
On Sun, 2007-12-16 at 00:27 +0100, Michael Buesch wrote: On Sunday 16 December 2007 00:18:43 Rafael J. Wysocki wrote: Well, the only problem with that is I suspect there are some newer cards that work better with v3 firmware, although they are supposed to support both. Impossible. The

Re: [PATCH 3/3] net: wireless: bcm43xx: big_buffer_sem semaphore to mutex

2007-12-16 Thread Rafael J. Wysocki
On Sunday, 16 of December 2007, Johannes Berg wrote: On Sun, 2007-12-16 at 00:27 +0100, Michael Buesch wrote: On Sunday 16 December 2007 00:18:43 Rafael J. Wysocki wrote: Well, the only problem with that is I suspect there are some newer cards that work better with v3 firmware,

Re: [PATCH 3/3] net: wireless: bcm43xx: big_buffer_sem semaphore to mutex

2007-12-16 Thread Johannes Berg
On Sun, 2007-12-16 at 00:27 +0100, Michael Buesch wrote: On Sunday 16 December 2007 00:18:43 Rafael J. Wysocki wrote: Well, the only problem with that is I suspect there are some newer cards that work better with v3 firmware, although they are supposed to support both.

Re: [PATCH 3/3] net: wireless: bcm43xx: big_buffer_sem semaphore to mutex

2007-12-15 Thread Stefan Lippers-Hollmann
On Sonntag, 16. Dezember 2007, Rafael J. Wysocki wrote: > On Saturday, 15 of December 2007, John W. Linville wrote: > > On Sat, Dec 15, 2007 at 02:25:50AM +0100, Rafael J. Wysocki wrote: > > > On Friday, 14 of December 2007, Michael Buesch wrote: > > > > > > Either distributions have to install

Re: [PATCH 3/3] net: wireless: bcm43xx: big_buffer_sem semaphore to mutex

2007-12-15 Thread Larry Finger
Michael Buesch wrote: On Sunday 16 December 2007 00:18:43 Rafael J. Wysocki wrote: Well, the only problem with that is I suspect there are some "newer" cards that work better with v3 firmware, although they are supposed to support both. And I suspect that you are wrong until you show me one.

Re: [PATCH 3/3] net: wireless: bcm43xx: big_buffer_sem semaphore to mutex

2007-12-15 Thread Michael Buesch
On Sunday 16 December 2007 00:18:43 Rafael J. Wysocki wrote: > Well, the only problem with that is I suspect there are some "newer" cards > that > work better with v3 firmware, although they are supposed to support both. And I suspect that you are wrong until you show me one. :) -- Greetings

Re: [PATCH 3/3] net: wireless: bcm43xx: big_buffer_sem semaphore to mutex

2007-12-15 Thread Rafael J. Wysocki
On Saturday, 15 of December 2007, John W. Linville wrote: > On Sat, Dec 15, 2007 at 02:25:50AM +0100, Rafael J. Wysocki wrote: > > On Friday, 14 of December 2007, Michael Buesch wrote: > > > > Either distributions have to install it automatically or people simply > > > have > > > to read one or

Re: [PATCH 3/3] net: wireless: bcm43xx: big_buffer_sem semaphore to mutex

2007-12-15 Thread Rafael J. Wysocki
On Saturday, 15 of December 2007, Michael Buesch wrote: > On Saturday 15 December 2007 01:51:47 Rafael J. Wysocki wrote: > > On Friday, 14 of December 2007, Michael Buesch wrote: > > > On Friday 14 December 2007 13:59:54 Simon Holm Thøgersen wrote: > > > > > This user did get the following

Re: [PATCH 3/3] net: wireless: bcm43xx: big_buffer_sem semaphore to mutex

2007-12-15 Thread John W. Linville
On Sat, Dec 15, 2007 at 02:25:50AM +0100, Rafael J. Wysocki wrote: > On Friday, 14 of December 2007, Michael Buesch wrote: > > Either distributions have to install it automatically or people simply have > > to read one or two lines of documentation. That's just what I wanted to > > say. > >

Re: [PATCH 3/3] net: wireless: bcm43xx: big_buffer_sem semaphore to mutex

2007-12-15 Thread mvtodevnull
On Dec 15, 2007 2:18 AM, Larry Finger <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > It will take a while to finish looking over those logs, but are you using > ipv6? If not, please > blacklist the ipv6 module to prevent it from loading - add the line > 'blacklist ipv6' to file > /etc/modprobe.d/blacklist. In

Re: [PATCH 3/3] net: wireless: bcm43xx: big_buffer_sem semaphore to mutex

2007-12-15 Thread Michael Buesch
On Saturday 15 December 2007 01:51:47 Rafael J. Wysocki wrote: > On Friday, 14 of December 2007, Michael Buesch wrote: > > On Friday 14 December 2007 13:59:54 Simon Holm Thøgersen wrote: > > > > This user did get the following messages in dmesg: > > > > > > > > b43err(dev->wl, "Firmware file

Re: [PATCH 3/3] net: wireless: bcm43xx: big_buffer_sem semaphore to mutex

2007-12-15 Thread Michael Buesch
On Saturday 15 December 2007 01:51:47 Rafael J. Wysocki wrote: On Friday, 14 of December 2007, Michael Buesch wrote: On Friday 14 December 2007 13:59:54 Simon Holm Thøgersen wrote: This user did get the following messages in dmesg: b43err(dev-wl, Firmware file \%s\ not found

Re: [PATCH 3/3] net: wireless: bcm43xx: big_buffer_sem semaphore to mutex

2007-12-15 Thread mvtodevnull
On Dec 15, 2007 2:18 AM, Larry Finger [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: It will take a while to finish looking over those logs, but are you using ipv6? If not, please blacklist the ipv6 module to prevent it from loading - add the line 'blacklist ipv6' to file /etc/modprobe.d/blacklist. In some

Re: [PATCH 3/3] net: wireless: bcm43xx: big_buffer_sem semaphore to mutex

2007-12-15 Thread John W. Linville
On Sat, Dec 15, 2007 at 02:25:50AM +0100, Rafael J. Wysocki wrote: On Friday, 14 of December 2007, Michael Buesch wrote: Either distributions have to install it automatically or people simply have to read one or two lines of documentation. That's just what I wanted to say. It's not

Re: [PATCH 3/3] net: wireless: bcm43xx: big_buffer_sem semaphore to mutex

2007-12-15 Thread Rafael J. Wysocki
On Saturday, 15 of December 2007, Michael Buesch wrote: On Saturday 15 December 2007 01:51:47 Rafael J. Wysocki wrote: On Friday, 14 of December 2007, Michael Buesch wrote: On Friday 14 December 2007 13:59:54 Simon Holm Thøgersen wrote: This user did get the following messages in dmesg:

Re: [PATCH 3/3] net: wireless: bcm43xx: big_buffer_sem semaphore to mutex

2007-12-15 Thread Rafael J. Wysocki
On Saturday, 15 of December 2007, John W. Linville wrote: On Sat, Dec 15, 2007 at 02:25:50AM +0100, Rafael J. Wysocki wrote: On Friday, 14 of December 2007, Michael Buesch wrote: Either distributions have to install it automatically or people simply have to read one or two lines of

Re: [PATCH 3/3] net: wireless: bcm43xx: big_buffer_sem semaphore to mutex

2007-12-15 Thread Michael Buesch
On Sunday 16 December 2007 00:18:43 Rafael J. Wysocki wrote: Well, the only problem with that is I suspect there are some newer cards that work better with v3 firmware, although they are supposed to support both. And I suspect that you are wrong until you show me one. :) -- Greetings

Re: [PATCH 3/3] net: wireless: bcm43xx: big_buffer_sem semaphore to mutex

2007-12-15 Thread Larry Finger
Michael Buesch wrote: On Sunday 16 December 2007 00:18:43 Rafael J. Wysocki wrote: Well, the only problem with that is I suspect there are some newer cards that work better with v3 firmware, although they are supposed to support both. And I suspect that you are wrong until you show me one. :)

Re: [PATCH 3/3] net: wireless: bcm43xx: big_buffer_sem semaphore to mutex

2007-12-15 Thread Stefan Lippers-Hollmann
On Sonntag, 16. Dezember 2007, Rafael J. Wysocki wrote: On Saturday, 15 of December 2007, John W. Linville wrote: On Sat, Dec 15, 2007 at 02:25:50AM +0100, Rafael J. Wysocki wrote: On Friday, 14 of December 2007, Michael Buesch wrote: Either distributions have to install it

Re: [PATCH 3/3] net: wireless: bcm43xx: big_buffer_sem semaphore to mutex

2007-12-14 Thread Larry Finger
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Dec 14, 2007 11:37 PM, <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: I'll attach these logs since I can't read much into them. I should do what I say... It will take a while to finish looking over those logs, but are you using ipv6? If not, please blacklist the ipv6 module to

Re: [PATCH 3/3] net: wireless: bcm43xx: big_buffer_sem semaphore to mutex

2007-12-14 Thread mvtodevnull
On Dec 14, 2007 9:27 PM, Larry Finger <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > I suspect that mac80211 is doing something that your router does not like. Do > you have any chance to > capture the traffic between your computer and the router by using a second > wireless computer running > kismet or

Re: [PATCH 3/3] net: wireless: bcm43xx: big_buffer_sem semaphore to mutex

2007-12-14 Thread Larry Finger
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Could this be the reason my BCM94311MCG rev 1 receives such terrible performance with b43 but works well with bcm43xx? The device is 802.11b/g but my router is 802.11b. I filed a report on this issue here: https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=413291 No. On my

Re: [PATCH 3/3] net: wireless: bcm43xx: big_buffer_sem semaphore to mutex

2007-12-14 Thread mvtodevnull
On Dec 14, 2007 7:58 PM, Larry Finger <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Rafael J. Wysocki wrote: > > > > Actually, can you explain why, from the technical point of view, the > > version 4 > > firware is better than version 3, please? > > I will be very interested in Michael's answer to this question;

Re: [PATCH 3/3] net: wireless: bcm43xx: big_buffer_sem semaphore to mutex

2007-12-14 Thread Rafael J. Wysocki
On Friday, 14 of December 2007, Michael Buesch wrote: > On Friday 14 December 2007 18:59:10 Ingo Molnar wrote: > > > > * Michael Buesch <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > > > In my opinion this all is the work of the distributions and not the > > > work of the kernel developers. Distributions

Re: [PATCH 3/3] net: wireless: bcm43xx: big_buffer_sem semaphore to mutex

2007-12-14 Thread Larry Finger
Rafael J. Wysocki wrote: Actually, can you explain why, from the technical point of view, the version 4 firware is better than version 3, please? I will be very interested in Michael's answer to this question; however, my experience is that it doesn't make much difference if your device is

Re: [PATCH 3/3] net: wireless: bcm43xx: big_buffer_sem semaphore to mutex

2007-12-14 Thread Rafael J. Wysocki
On Friday, 14 of December 2007, Michael Buesch wrote: > On Friday 14 December 2007 13:59:54 Simon Holm Thøgersen wrote: > > > This user did get the following messages in dmesg: > > > > > > b43err(dev->wl, "Firmware file \"%s\" not found " > > >"or load failed.\n", path); > > > > So the

Re: [PATCH 3/3] net: wireless: bcm43xx: big_buffer_sem semaphore to mutex

2007-12-14 Thread Ray Lee
On Dec 14, 2007 12:13 PM, Michael Buesch <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Ray, I _do_ want to understand what is going on in your machine. > I _have_ to understand it. But I currently do not understand how the > quoted patch could fix modprobe of b43 or rfkill. I'd simply call that > impossible. Then

Re: [PATCH 3/3] net: wireless: bcm43xx: big_buffer_sem semaphore to mutex

2007-12-14 Thread Michael Buesch
On Friday 14 December 2007 20:55:43 Ray Lee wrote: > Oh. My. God. > > Michael. I have a degree in Physics. I placed sixth in the world > finals of the ACM Collegiate programming contest in 1999, Cal Poly > Team Gold. ( http://icpc.baylor.edu/past/icpc99/Finals/Tour/Win/Win.html > , I'm the guy

Re: [PATCH 3/3] net: wireless: bcm43xx: big_buffer_sem semaphore to mutex

2007-12-14 Thread Ray Lee
On Dec 14, 2007 11:38 AM, Michael Buesch <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > On Friday 14 December 2007 20:25:39 Ray Lee wrote: > > > I'm sorry. The patch that _you_ quoted fixes a blinking LED > > > and nothing else. > > > > Well, you're wrong. Sorry, but that's just the way it is. See below. > > > > >

Re: [PATCH 3/3] net: wireless: bcm43xx: big_buffer_sem semaphore to mutex

2007-12-14 Thread Michael Buesch
On Friday 14 December 2007 20:25:39 Ray Lee wrote: > > I'm sorry. The patch that _you_ quoted fixes a blinking LED > > and nothing else. > > Well, you're wrong. Sorry, but that's just the way it is. See below. > > > It does _not_ fix loading of rfkill or b43 in any way. > > It does, however, fix

Re: [PATCH 3/3] net: wireless: bcm43xx: big_buffer_sem semaphore to mutex

2007-12-14 Thread Ray Lee
On Dec 14, 2007 11:05 AM, Michael Buesch <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > On Friday 14 December 2007 19:45:02 Ray Lee wrote: > > > > One problem related to b43 source code, patch exists, has yet to be > > > > merged upstream. > > > > > > Yeah. A problem preventing a LED from blinking. > > > That's a

Re: [PATCH 3/3] net: wireless: bcm43xx: big_buffer_sem semaphore to mutex

2007-12-14 Thread Michael Buesch
On Friday 14 December 2007 19:45:02 Ray Lee wrote: > > > One problem related to b43 source code, patch exists, has yet to be > > > merged upstream. > > > > Yeah. A problem preventing a LED from blinking. > > That's a real regression Come on. Stop that bullshit. > > I'm going to say this one

Re: [PATCH 3/3] net: wireless: bcm43xx: big_buffer_sem semaphore to mutex

2007-12-14 Thread Ray Lee
On Dec 14, 2007 10:11 AM, Ingo Molnar <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > * Ray Lee <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > Now I'm going to go off, sit in the sun, sip some coffee, and think > > happy thoughts of kittens playing with yarn for a while. > > ok, and given the time-shift and apparent season-shift

Re: [PATCH 3/3] net: wireless: bcm43xx: big_buffer_sem semaphore to mutex

2007-12-14 Thread Ray Lee
I've run out of time to donate to the kernel today, so I'll keep this short. On Dec 14, 2007 10:22 AM, Michael Buesch <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > If you have a PCI device probing works as follows: > > > The PCI table is in ssb. So as soon as your kernel detects the PCI device > > > it will

Re: [PATCH 3/3] net: wireless: bcm43xx: big_buffer_sem semaphore to mutex

2007-12-14 Thread Michael Buesch
On Friday 14 December 2007 18:59:10 Ingo Molnar wrote: > > * Michael Buesch <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > In my opinion this all is the work of the distributions and not the > > work of the kernel developers. Distributions have to make sure that > > everything works after a kernel update.

Re: [PATCH 3/3] net: wireless: bcm43xx: big_buffer_sem semaphore to mutex

2007-12-14 Thread Michael Buesch
On Friday 14 December 2007 19:01:51 Ray Lee wrote: > No, I don't have module autoloading disabled. modprobe-ing b43 > automatically loads ssb. Neither, however, will load rfkill or > rfkill-input. And if they aren't loaded, then b43/ssb are *completely* > silent during load. Nothing to dmesg at

Re: [PATCH 3/3] net: wireless: bcm43xx: big_buffer_sem semaphore to mutex

2007-12-14 Thread Ingo Molnar
* Ray Lee <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Now I'm going to go off, sit in the sun, sip some coffee, and think > happy thoughts of kittens playing with yarn for a while. ok, and given the time-shift and apparent season-shift i'll sit in the evening, watch the snowfall and think happy thoughts of

Re: [PATCH 3/3] net: wireless: bcm43xx: big_buffer_sem semaphore to mutex

2007-12-14 Thread Ray Lee
On Dec 14, 2007 8:49 AM, Michael Buesch <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > On Friday 14 December 2007 17:06:39 Ray Lee wrote: > > Hi all. Perhaps I can inject some facts into this? > > > > On Dec 14, 2007 5:08 AM, Michael Buesch <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > > > This user did get the following

Re: [PATCH 3/3] net: wireless: bcm43xx: big_buffer_sem semaphore to mutex

2007-12-14 Thread Ingo Molnar
* Michael Buesch <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > In my opinion this all is the work of the distributions and not the > work of the kernel developers. Distributions have to make sure that > everything works after a kernel update. [...] actually, not. The the task of kernel developers is to KEEP

Re: [PATCH 3/3] net: wireless: bcm43xx: big_buffer_sem semaphore to mutex

2007-12-14 Thread Ray Lee
On Dec 14, 2007 8:59 AM, Michael Buesch <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > What if you want to compile your own kernel? Well, then you are on > your own anyway. You have to track kernel changes anyway. I'm trying to help you test your code before it goes out to the unsuspecting masses. Do you think I

Re: [PATCH 3/3] net: wireless: bcm43xx: big_buffer_sem semaphore to mutex

2007-12-14 Thread Michael Buesch
On Friday 14 December 2007 17:45:52 Ray Lee wrote: > On Dec 14, 2007 8:27 AM, Ray Lee <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > On Dec 14, 2007 6:40 AM, <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > Agreed. As a b43legacy maintainer, I'd be happy to know if Ingo > > > suggests other ways to smooth out the transition. I

Re: [PATCH 3/3] net: wireless: bcm43xx: big_buffer_sem semaphore to mutex

2007-12-14 Thread Michael Buesch
On Friday 14 December 2007 17:06:39 Ray Lee wrote: > Hi all. Perhaps I can inject some facts into this? > > On Dec 14, 2007 5:08 AM, Michael Buesch <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > > This user did get the following messages in dmesg: > > > > > > > > b43err(dev->wl, "Firmware file \"%s\" not found

Re: [PATCH 3/3] net: wireless: bcm43xx: big_buffer_sem semaphore to mutex

2007-12-14 Thread Ray Lee
On Dec 14, 2007 8:27 AM, Ray Lee <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > On Dec 14, 2007 6:40 AM, <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > Agreed. As a b43legacy maintainer, I'd be happy to know if Ingo > > suggests other ways to smooth out the transition. I haven't read > > proposals yet. > > This isn't rocket

Re: [PATCH 3/3] net: wireless: bcm43xx: big_buffer_sem semaphore to mutex

2007-12-14 Thread Ray Lee
On Dec 14, 2007 6:40 AM, <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Agreed. As a b43legacy maintainer, I'd be happy to know if Ingo > suggests other ways to smooth out the transition. I haven't read > proposals yet. This isn't rocket science guys. Put a file in somewhere in your tree called

Re: [PATCH 3/3] net: wireless: bcm43xx: big_buffer_sem semaphore to mutex

2007-12-14 Thread Ray Lee
Hi all. Perhaps I can inject some facts into this? On Dec 14, 2007 5:08 AM, Michael Buesch <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > This user did get the following messages in dmesg: > > > > > > b43err(dev->wl, "Firmware file \"%s\" not found " > > >"or load failed.\n", path); > > > b43err(wl,

Re: [PATCH 3/3] net: wireless: bcm43xx: big_buffer_sem semaphore to mutex

2007-12-14 Thread stefano . brivio
"John W. Linville" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: On Fri, Dec 14, 2007 at 11:56:24AM +0100, Ingo Molnar wrote: * Michael Buesch <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Oh come on. b43 is more than a year old now. How long should we wait? > Two or three? Forever? possibly forever, if you dont get obvious

Re: [PATCH 3/3] net: wireless: bcm43xx: big_buffer_sem semaphore to mutex

2007-12-14 Thread John W. Linville
On Fri, Dec 14, 2007 at 11:56:24AM +0100, Ingo Molnar wrote: > > * Michael Buesch <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > Oh come on. b43 is more than a year old now. How long should we wait? > > Two or three? Forever? > > possibly forever, if you dont get obvious regressions like "my wlan does > not

Re: [PATCH 3/3] net: wireless: bcm43xx: big_buffer_sem semaphore to mutex

2007-12-14 Thread Michael Buesch
On Friday 14 December 2007 13:53:27 Ingo Molnar wrote: > > * Michael Buesch <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > This user did get the following messages in dmesg: > > > > b43err(dev->wl, "Firmware file \"%s\" not found " > >"or load failed.\n", path); > > b43err(wl, "You must go to " > >

Re: [PATCH 3/3] net: wireless: bcm43xx: big_buffer_sem semaphore to mutex

2007-12-14 Thread Michael Buesch
On Friday 14 December 2007 13:59:54 Simon Holm Thøgersen wrote: > > This user did get the following messages in dmesg: > > > > b43err(dev->wl, "Firmware file \"%s\" not found " > >"or load failed.\n", path); > > So the question seems to be why b43 needs version 4, when b43legacy and >

Re: [PATCH 3/3] net: wireless: bcm43xx: big_buffer_sem semaphore to mutex

2007-12-14 Thread Simon Holm Thøgersen
fre, 14 12 2007 kl. 13:31 +0100, skrev Michael Buesch: > On Friday 14 December 2007 13:16:17 Ingo Molnar wrote: > > > > * Michael Buesch <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > > > > The testers who did nothing but reported that the new driver did not > > > > work on their hardware. > > > > > >

Re: [PATCH 3/3] net: wireless: bcm43xx: big_buffer_sem semaphore to mutex

2007-12-14 Thread Ingo Molnar
* Michael Buesch <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > This user did get the following messages in dmesg: > > b43err(dev->wl, "Firmware file \"%s\" not found " >"or load failed.\n", path); > b43err(wl, "You must go to " >"http://linuxwireless.org/en/users/Drivers/b43#devicefirmware " >

Re: [PATCH 3/3] net: wireless: bcm43xx: big_buffer_sem semaphore to mutex

2007-12-14 Thread Michael Buesch
On Friday 14 December 2007 13:16:17 Ingo Molnar wrote: > > * Michael Buesch <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > > The testers who did nothing but reported that the new driver did not > > > work on their hardware. > > > > Which testers? > > right in this thread Ray Lee is reporting: > > | |

Re: [PATCH 3/3] net: wireless: bcm43xx: big_buffer_sem semaphore to mutex

2007-12-14 Thread Ingo Molnar
* Michael Buesch <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > The testers who did nothing but reported that the new driver did not > > work on their hardware. > > Which testers? right in this thread Ray Lee is reporting: | | Digging a little farther into it, it looks like b43 is barfing | | partway

Re: [PATCH 3/3] net: wireless: bcm43xx: big_buffer_sem semaphore to mutex

2007-12-14 Thread Michael Buesch
On Friday 14 December 2007 12:15:34 Ingo Molnar wrote: > > So you volunteer to maintain bcm43xx? Fine. Thanks a lot. > > it's sad that you are trying to force testers to upgrade to your new > driver by threatening to unsupport the old driver. I dropped maintainance for bcm43xx over a year ago.

Re: [PATCH 3/3] net: wireless: bcm43xx: big_buffer_sem semaphore to mutex

2007-12-14 Thread Ingo Molnar
* Michael Buesch <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > On Friday 14 December 2007 02:12:25 Ray Lee wrote: > > Digging a little farther into it, it looks like b43 is barfing partway > > through init as the firmware file it's looking for has changed names. > > Perhaps that's the issue. I'll take a longer

Re: [PATCH 3/3] net: wireless: bcm43xx: big_buffer_sem semaphore to mutex

2007-12-14 Thread Ingo Molnar
* Michael Buesch <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > (eth0 is ethernet, eth1 doesn't exist -- usually it's the wireless.) > > > > `ifconfig` doesn't see eth1 or wlan0_rename. > > > > What else might I be doing wrong? > > I don't know. Try ifconfig -a Or tell udev to not crap up your device >

Re: [PATCH 3/3] net: wireless: bcm43xx: big_buffer_sem semaphore to mutex

2007-12-14 Thread Michael Buesch
On Friday 14 December 2007 02:12:25 Ray Lee wrote: > Digging a little farther into it, it looks like b43 is barfing partway > through init as the firmware file it's looking for has changed names. > Perhaps that's the issue. I'll take a longer look at this all > tomorrow.

Re: [PATCH 3/3] net: wireless: bcm43xx: big_buffer_sem semaphore to mutex

2007-12-14 Thread Michael Buesch
On Friday 14 December 2007 01:55:50 Harvey Harrison wrote: > On Fri, 2007-12-14 at 01:43 +0100, Michael Buesch wrote: > > Oh come on. b43 is more than a year old now. How long should we wait? > > Two or three? Forever? > > > > Any pointers to the advantages of b43?

Re: [PATCH 3/3] net: wireless: bcm43xx: big_buffer_sem semaphore to mutex

2007-12-14 Thread Ingo Molnar
* Michael Buesch [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: (eth0 is ethernet, eth1 doesn't exist -- usually it's the wireless.) `ifconfig` doesn't see eth1 or wlan0_rename. What else might I be doing wrong? I don't know. Try ifconfig -a Or tell udev to not crap up your device names.

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