Re: [patch 00/46] High resolution timer / dynamic tick update

2007-01-29 Thread john stultz
On Mon, 2007-01-29 at 13:31 -0800, john stultz wrote: > Should I just revive the old 2.6.20-rc4-mm1 patches against your current > tree and re-submit? Or should the HRT bits get settled first? Thomas just pointed out that I had missed that the bits are back in -mm2. Sorry for the noise. -john -

Re: [patch 00/46] High resolution timer / dynamic tick update

2007-01-29 Thread john stultz
On Sat, 2007-01-27 at 18:17 -0800, Andrew Morton wrote: > On Tue, 23 Jan 2007 22:00:55 - > Thomas Gleixner <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > This is a full replacement queue for the high resolution timer / dynamic > > ticks implemementation in -mm. > > The Vaio broke again. Seems to hang per

Re: [patch 00/46] High resolution timer / dynamic tick update

2007-01-27 Thread Andrew Morton
On Tue, 23 Jan 2007 22:00:55 - Thomas Gleixner <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > This is a full replacement queue for the high resolution timer / dynamic > ticks implemementation in -mm. The Vaio broke again. Seems to hang permanently the first time it tries to sleep. The cursor doesn't flash.

Re: [patch 00/46] High resolution timer / dynamic tick update

2007-01-25 Thread Daniel Walker
On Thu, 2007-01-25 at 07:32 +0100, Ingo Molnar wrote: > * john stultz <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > Although, to be fair, I do know that Daniel has future sched_clock > > related patches that need his cleanups [...] > > btw., i dont find those sched_clock() changes really acceptable in their

Re: [patch 00/46] High resolution timer / dynamic tick update

2007-01-24 Thread Ingo Molnar
* Daniel Walker <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > Thomas' changes are more obviously purpose driven, and Daniel's > > appear more like just cleanups. So given that, if it were me, I'd > > put Thomas changes in first, and re-diff Daniel's non-redundant > > changes on top. > > Seems backwards , cl

Re: [patch 00/46] High resolution timer / dynamic tick update

2007-01-24 Thread Ingo Molnar
* john stultz <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Although, to be fair, I do know that Daniel has future sched_clock > related patches that need his cleanups [...] btw., i dont find those sched_clock() changes really acceptable in their present form, and i've pointed out my reasons for that in the pa

Re: [patch 00/46] High resolution timer / dynamic tick update

2007-01-24 Thread Ingo Molnar
* Daniel Walker <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Only in so much as the high res changes parallel my own. That includes > from my set the update_callback removal and the rating sorted list. > thats about where the similarity stops, even those changes don't > appear to have the breath of mine. bec

Re: [patch 00/46] High resolution timer / dynamic tick update

2007-01-24 Thread Daniel Walker
On Wed, 2007-01-24 at 13:23 -0800, john stultz wrote: > Well, I suggested the kernel/time/timekeeping.c change go in last cycle, > when you pushed your other cleanups, because that sort of large, > move-tons-of-code patch sucks to keep out of the tree for long as it > would surely collide with som

Re: [patch 00/46] High resolution timer / dynamic tick update

2007-01-24 Thread john stultz
On Wed, 2007-01-24 at 12:51 -0800, Daniel Walker wrote: > On Wed, 2007-01-24 at 11:57 -0800, john stultz wrote: > > Thomas' changes are more obviously purpose driven, and Daniel's appear > > more like just cleanups. So given that, if it were me, I'd put Thomas > > changes in first, and re-diff Dani

Re: [patch 00/46] High resolution timer / dynamic tick update

2007-01-24 Thread Daniel Walker
On Wed, 2007-01-24 at 11:57 -0800, john stultz wrote: > On Wed, 2007-01-24 at 01:30 -0800, Daniel Walker wrote: > > > > My patch set has been stable for months, and reviewed and tested by > > John and I constantly (With you and Thomas on the CC list each > > release).. It's a completely safe bet,

Re: [patch 00/46] High resolution timer / dynamic tick update

2007-01-24 Thread Ingo Molnar
* Daniel Walker <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > I think his approach was wrong that's why I'm resistant to his > implementation .. [...] how can you still say this while you showed clear misunderstanding of what Thomas did and why? Why should i care about you being 'resistant' to anything under

Re: [patch 00/46] High resolution timer / dynamic tick update

2007-01-24 Thread Daniel Walker
On Wed, 2007-01-24 at 20:38 +0100, Ingo Molnar wrote: > * Daniel Walker <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > > you are also misunderstanding the change. While the TSC is the only > > > unstable clocksource right now, the previous code tied the TSC to > > > the >pm-timer< clocksource. This change mak

Re: [patch 00/46] High resolution timer / dynamic tick update

2007-01-24 Thread john stultz
On Wed, 2007-01-24 at 01:30 -0800, Daniel Walker wrote: > > My patch set has been stable for months, and reviewed and tested by > John and I constantly (With you and Thomas on the CC list each > release).. It's a completely safe bet, IMO . Oh, I really wanted to stay out of this, but just a smal

Re: [patch 00/46] High resolution timer / dynamic tick update

2007-01-24 Thread Ingo Molnar
* Daniel Walker <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > you are also misunderstanding the change. While the TSC is the only > > unstable clocksource right now, the previous code tied the TSC to > > the >pm-timer< clocksource. This change makes it generic, hence the > > TSC can be verified by a hpet-onl

Re: [patch 00/46] High resolution timer / dynamic tick update

2007-01-24 Thread Daniel Walker
On Wed, 2007-01-24 at 17:00 +0100, Ingo Molnar wrote: > you are also misunderstand the change. While the TSC is the only > unstable clocksource right now, the previous code tied the TSC to the > >pm-timer< clocksource. This change makes it generic, hence the TSC can > be verified by a hpet-only sy

Re: [patch 00/46] High resolution timer / dynamic tick update

2007-01-24 Thread Daniel Walker
On Wed, 2007-01-24 at 12:13 +0100, Thomas Gleixner wrote: > On Wed, 2007-01-24 at 02:23 -0800, Daniel Walker wrote: > > > the 10th major iteration to his codebase. If you have cleanups to his > > > code then please work with Thomas to get your changes into his tree. > > > > My code is for clockso

Re: [patch 00/46] High resolution timer / dynamic tick update

2007-01-24 Thread Thomas Gleixner
On Wed, 2007-01-24 at 02:23 -0800, Daniel Walker wrote: > > the 10th major iteration to his codebase. If you have cleanups to his > > code then please work with Thomas to get your changes into his tree. > > My code is for clocksouces/timekeeping which has been unrelated to HRT > up until recently

Re: [patch 00/46] High resolution timer / dynamic tick update

2007-01-24 Thread Ingo Molnar
* Daniel Walker <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > > > If stability is a question, -rt10 does currently compile for > > > > > my test config, due to this new HRT introduction. [...] [...] NOTE: the build problem you have is -rt specific. In any case it is not due to this new HRT introduction but

Re: [patch 00/46] High resolution timer / dynamic tick update

2007-01-24 Thread Daniel Walker
On Wed, 2007-01-24 at 11:29 +0100, Ingo Molnar wrote: > * Daniel Walker <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > No, the test config I was talking about is SMP i386 (which is what I > > usually use). [...] > > then please send me the .config. Sure. Daniel # # Automatically generated make config: don't

Re: [patch 00/46] High resolution timer / dynamic tick update

2007-01-24 Thread Ingo Molnar
* Daniel Walker <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > No, the test config I was talking about is SMP i386 (which is what I > usually use). [...] then please send me the .config. Ingo - To unsubscribe from this list: send the line "unsubscribe linux-kernel" in the body of a message to [EMAIL PRO

Re: [patch 00/46] High resolution timer / dynamic tick update

2007-01-24 Thread Daniel Walker
On Wed, 2007-01-24 at 10:51 +0100, Ingo Molnar wrote: > please read what i wrote: in the first section above i am talking about > Thomas' -hrt tree and its track record. Thomas' tree is more than a year > old and has an excellent track record. In the last sentence i was > talking about this lat

Re: [patch 00/46] High resolution timer / dynamic tick update

2007-01-24 Thread Ingo Molnar
* Daniel Walker <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > i disagree. Thomas' tree has been tested in -rt for some time > > already, and he's the author of this code so as far as i'm concerned > > he calls the shots of what to do and in what order to do. He did the > > overwhelming majority of regression

Re: [patch 00/46] High resolution timer / dynamic tick update

2007-01-24 Thread Daniel Walker
On Wed, 2007-01-24 at 08:07 +0100, Ingo Molnar wrote: > * Daniel Walker <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > To lessen Andrews burden it would be wise to integrate the two trees > > prior to anything going into -mm .. [...] > > i disagree. Thomas' tree has been tested in -rt for some time already,

Re: [patch 00/46] High resolution timer / dynamic tick update

2007-01-23 Thread Ingo Molnar
* Daniel Walker <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > To lessen Andrews burden it would be wise to integrate the two trees > prior to anything going into -mm .. [...] i disagree. Thomas' tree has been tested in -rt for some time already, and he's the author of this code so as far as i'm concerned he ca

Re: [patch 00/46] High resolution timer / dynamic tick update

2007-01-23 Thread Daniel Walker
On Tue, 2007-01-23 at 18:23 -0800, Andrew Morton wrote: > > There appears to be some fairly clear duplication between my clocksource > > tree and this release of high resolution timers. Not to mention that we > > both submitted our tree's to Andrew within days . > > > > To lessen Andrews burden

Re: [patch 00/46] High resolution timer / dynamic tick update

2007-01-23 Thread Andrew Morton
On Tue, 23 Jan 2007 18:16:31 -0800 Daniel Walker <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > On Tue, 2007-01-23 at 22:00 +, Thomas Gleixner wrote: > > - Provide a generic way to verify clocksources. TSC needs > >verification due to broken hardware and BIOS implementations. The > >previous attempt to

Re: [patch 00/46] High resolution timer / dynamic tick update

2007-01-23 Thread Daniel Walker
On Tue, 2007-01-23 at 22:00 +, Thomas Gleixner wrote: > - Provide a generic way to verify clocksources. TSC needs >verification due to broken hardware and BIOS implementations. The >previous attempt to allow TSC usage for high resolution and/or >dynamic ticks only in combination wi

[patch 00/46] High resolution timer / dynamic tick update

2007-01-23 Thread Thomas Gleixner
This is a full replacement queue for the high resolution timer / dynamic ticks implemementation in -mm. This version includes the following improvements: - Seperate clockevents management of devices and users - Provide a generic tick managament infrastructure, which makes use of the clock