Re: [test] hackbench.c interactivity results: vanilla versus SD/RSDL

2007-04-02 Thread Mike Galbraith
On Tue, 2007-04-03 at 12:34 +1000, Con Kolivas wrote: > On Saturday 31 March 2007 19:28, Xenofon Antidides wrote: > > For long time now I use windows to work > > problems. I cannot play wine games with audio, I > > cannot sample video, I cannot use skype, I cannot play > > midi. And even linux

Re: [test] hackbench.c interactivity results: vanilla versus SD/RSDL

2007-04-02 Thread Con Kolivas
On Saturday 31 March 2007 19:28, Xenofon Antidides wrote: > For long time now I use windows to work > problems. I cannot play wine games with audio, I > cannot sample video, I cannot use skype, I cannot play > midi. And even linux only things I try do I cannot > share my X, I cannot use more than

Re: [test] hackbench.c interactivity results: vanilla versus SD/RSDL

2007-04-02 Thread Con Kolivas
On Thursday 29 March 2007 21:22, Ingo Molnar wrote: > [ A quick guess: could SD's substandard interactivity in this test be > due to the SMP migration logic inconsistencies Mike noticed? This is > an SMP system and the hackbench workload is very scheduling intense > and tasks are frequently

Re: [test] hackbench.c interactivity results: vanilla versus SD/RSDL

2007-04-02 Thread Con Kolivas
On Thursday 29 March 2007 21:22, Ingo Molnar wrote: [ A quick guess: could SD's substandard interactivity in this test be due to the SMP migration logic inconsistencies Mike noticed? This is an SMP system and the hackbench workload is very scheduling intense and tasks are frequently

Re: [test] hackbench.c interactivity results: vanilla versus SD/RSDL

2007-04-02 Thread Con Kolivas
On Saturday 31 March 2007 19:28, Xenofon Antidides wrote: For long time now I use windows to work problems. I cannot play wine games with audio, I cannot sample video, I cannot use skype, I cannot play midi. And even linux only things I try do I cannot share my X, I cannot use more than one

Re: [test] hackbench.c interactivity results: vanilla versus SD/RSDL

2007-04-02 Thread Mike Galbraith
On Tue, 2007-04-03 at 12:34 +1000, Con Kolivas wrote: On Saturday 31 March 2007 19:28, Xenofon Antidides wrote: For long time now I use windows to work problems. I cannot play wine games with audio, I cannot sample video, I cannot use skype, I cannot play midi. And even linux only things

Re: [test] hackbench.c interactivity results: vanilla versus SD/RSDL

2007-03-31 Thread Ingo Molnar
Xenofon, could you tell us a bit more about the specs of your system? What CPU speed for example? (i suspect it's a single-CPU box, right?) Ingo - To unsubscribe from this list: send the line "unsubscribe linux-kernel" in the body of a message to [EMAIL PROTECTED] More majordomo info

Re: [test] hackbench.c interactivity results: vanilla versus SD/RSDL

2007-03-31 Thread Ingo Molnar
* Xenofon Antidides <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > [...] I cannot play wine games with audio, I cannot sample video, I > cannot use skype, I cannot play midi. And even linux only things I try > do I cannot share my X, I cannot use more than one vmware. [...] strange - i can do such things (and

Re: [test] hackbench.c interactivity results: vanilla versus SD/RSDL

2007-03-31 Thread Xenofon Antidides
--- Mike Galbraith <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > On Fri, 2007-03-30 at 22:41 -0700, Xenofon Antidides > wrote: > > > Patch makes X yuck with any load. I stick with SD. > > Shrug. My milage is different, but hey, it's a work > in progress. If SD > ever gets to the point that it actually

Re: [test] hackbench.c interactivity results: vanilla versus SD/RSDL

2007-03-31 Thread Xenofon Antidides
--- Mike Galbraith [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Fri, 2007-03-30 at 22:41 -0700, Xenofon Antidides wrote: Patch makes X yuck with any load. I stick with SD. Shrug. My milage is different, but hey, it's a work in progress. If SD ever gets to the point that it actually delivers what it

Re: [test] hackbench.c interactivity results: vanilla versus SD/RSDL

2007-03-31 Thread Ingo Molnar
* Xenofon Antidides [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: [...] I cannot play wine games with audio, I cannot sample video, I cannot use skype, I cannot play midi. And even linux only things I try do I cannot share my X, I cannot use more than one vmware. [...] strange - i can do such things (and other

Re: [test] hackbench.c interactivity results: vanilla versus SD/RSDL

2007-03-31 Thread Ingo Molnar
Xenofon, could you tell us a bit more about the specs of your system? What CPU speed for example? (i suspect it's a single-CPU box, right?) Ingo - To unsubscribe from this list: send the line unsubscribe linux-kernel in the body of a message to [EMAIL PROTECTED] More majordomo info at

Re: [test] hackbench.c interactivity results: vanilla versus SD/RSDL

2007-03-30 Thread Mike Galbraith
On Sat, 2007-03-31 at 08:31 +0200, Mike Galbraith wrote: > On Fri, 2007-03-30 at 22:41 -0700, Xenofon Antidides wrote: > > > Patch makes X yuck with any load. I stick with SD. General comment directed at nobody in particular: If anyone thinks the current scheduler sucks rocks, maybe they should

Re: [test] hackbench.c interactivity results: vanilla versus SD/RSDL

2007-03-30 Thread Mike Galbraith
On Fri, 2007-03-30 at 22:41 -0700, Xenofon Antidides wrote: > Patch makes X yuck with any load. I stick with SD. Shrug. My milage is different, but hey, it's a work in progress. If SD ever gets to the point that it actually delivers what it claims, I may join you. In the meantime, IMHO

Re: [test] hackbench.c interactivity results: vanilla versus SD/RSDL

2007-03-30 Thread Mike Galbraith
On Sat, 2007-03-31 at 05:42 +0200, Mike Galbraith wrote: > Yesterday, I piddled around with tracking interactive backlog as a way > to detect when the load isn't really an interactive load, that's very > simple and has potential. Kinda like the patch below (though it can all be done slow path),

Re: [test] hackbench.c interactivity results: vanilla versus SD/RSDL

2007-03-30 Thread Xenofon Antidides
--- Mike Galbraith <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > On Fri, 2007-03-30 at 19:36 -0700, Xenofon Antidides > wrote: > > > Something different on many cpus? Sorry I was > thinking > > something other. I try 50% run + 50% sleep on one > cpu > > and mainline has big problem. Sorry for bad code I > >

Re: [test] hackbench.c interactivity results: vanilla versus SD/RSDL

2007-03-30 Thread Nick Piggin
ject: [test] hackbench.c interactivity results: vanilla versus SD/RSDL * Ingo Molnar <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: * Con Kolivas <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: I'm cautiously optimistic that we're at the thin edge of the bugfix wedge now. [...] and the numbers he posted: http://marc.info/?l=

Re: [test] hackbench.c interactivity results: vanilla versus SD/RSDL

2007-03-30 Thread Mike Galbraith
On Sat, 2007-03-31 at 05:23 +0200, Mike Galbraith wrote: > On Fri, 2007-03-30 at 19:36 -0700, Xenofon Antidides wrote: > > > Something different on many cpus? Sorry I was thinking > > something other. I try 50% run + 50% sleep on one cpu > > and mainline has big problem. Sorry for bad code I > >

Re: [test] hackbench.c interactivity results: vanilla versus SD/RSDL

2007-03-30 Thread Mike Galbraith
On Fri, 2007-03-30 at 19:36 -0700, Xenofon Antidides wrote: > Something different on many cpus? Sorry I was thinking > something other. I try 50% run + 50% sleep on one cpu > and mainline has big problem. Sorry for bad code I > copy bits to make it work. Start program first then > run bash 100%

Re: [test] hackbench.c interactivity results: vanilla versus SD/RSDL

2007-03-30 Thread Xenofon Antidides
list ; > Andrew Morton <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>; Mike > Galbraith <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > > Sent: Thursday, March 29, 2007 9:22:49 PM > > Subject: [test] hackbench.c interactivity results: > vanilla versus SD/RSDL > > > > > > * Ingo Molnar <[EMAIL PROTECTED

Re: [test] hackbench.c interactivity results: vanilla versus SD/RSDL

2007-03-30 Thread Mike Galbraith
; > Sent: Thursday, March 29, 2007 9:22:49 PM > Subject: [test] hackbench.c interactivity results: vanilla versus SD/RSDL > > > * Ingo Molnar <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > * Con Kolivas <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > >

Re: [test] hackbench.c interactivity results: vanilla versus SD/RSDL

2007-03-30 Thread Xenofon Antidides
- Original Message From: Ingo Molnar <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: Con Kolivas <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Cc: linux list ; Andrew Morton <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>; Mike Galbraith <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Sent: Thursday, March 29, 2007 9:22:49 PM Subject: [test] hackbench.c interactivity

Re: [test] hackbench.c interactivity results: vanilla versus SD/RSDL

2007-03-30 Thread Xenofon Antidides
results: vanilla versus SD/RSDL * Ingo Molnar [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: * Con Kolivas [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I'm cautiously optimistic that we're at the thin edge of the bugfix wedge now. [...] and the numbers he posted: http://marc.info/?l=linux-kernelm=117448900626028w=2 We been

Re: [test] hackbench.c interactivity results: vanilla versus SD/RSDL

2007-03-30 Thread Mike Galbraith
29, 2007 9:22:49 PM Subject: [test] hackbench.c interactivity results: vanilla versus SD/RSDL * Ingo Molnar [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: * Con Kolivas [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I'm cautiously optimistic that we're at the thin edge of the bugfix wedge now. [...] and the numbers he

Re: [test] hackbench.c interactivity results: vanilla versus SD/RSDL

2007-03-30 Thread Xenofon Antidides
Galbraith [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Thursday, March 29, 2007 9:22:49 PM Subject: [test] hackbench.c interactivity results: vanilla versus SD/RSDL * Ingo Molnar [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: * Con Kolivas [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I'm cautiously optimistic that we're at the thin

Re: [test] hackbench.c interactivity results: vanilla versus SD/RSDL

2007-03-30 Thread Mike Galbraith
On Fri, 2007-03-30 at 19:36 -0700, Xenofon Antidides wrote: Something different on many cpus? Sorry I was thinking something other. I try 50% run + 50% sleep on one cpu and mainline has big problem. Sorry for bad code I copy bits to make it work. Start program first then run bash 100% cpu

Re: [test] hackbench.c interactivity results: vanilla versus SD/RSDL

2007-03-30 Thread Mike Galbraith
On Sat, 2007-03-31 at 05:23 +0200, Mike Galbraith wrote: On Fri, 2007-03-30 at 19:36 -0700, Xenofon Antidides wrote: Something different on many cpus? Sorry I was thinking something other. I try 50% run + 50% sleep on one cpu and mainline has big problem. Sorry for bad code I copy bits

Re: [test] hackbench.c interactivity results: vanilla versus SD/RSDL

2007-03-30 Thread Nick Piggin
] hackbench.c interactivity results: vanilla versus SD/RSDL * Ingo Molnar [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: * Con Kolivas [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I'm cautiously optimistic that we're at the thin edge of the bugfix wedge now. [...] and the numbers he posted: http://marc.info/?l=linux-kernelm

Re: [test] hackbench.c interactivity results: vanilla versus SD/RSDL

2007-03-30 Thread Xenofon Antidides
--- Mike Galbraith [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Fri, 2007-03-30 at 19:36 -0700, Xenofon Antidides wrote: Something different on many cpus? Sorry I was thinking something other. I try 50% run + 50% sleep on one cpu and mainline has big problem. Sorry for bad code I copy bits to make

Re: [test] hackbench.c interactivity results: vanilla versus SD/RSDL

2007-03-30 Thread Mike Galbraith
On Sat, 2007-03-31 at 05:42 +0200, Mike Galbraith wrote: Yesterday, I piddled around with tracking interactive backlog as a way to detect when the load isn't really an interactive load, that's very simple and has potential. Kinda like the patch below (though it can all be done slow path), or

Re: [test] hackbench.c interactivity results: vanilla versus SD/RSDL

2007-03-30 Thread Mike Galbraith
On Fri, 2007-03-30 at 22:41 -0700, Xenofon Antidides wrote: Patch makes X yuck with any load. I stick with SD. Shrug. My milage is different, but hey, it's a work in progress. If SD ever gets to the point that it actually delivers what it claims, I may join you. In the meantime, IMHO

Re: [test] hackbench.c interactivity results: vanilla versus SD/RSDL

2007-03-30 Thread Mike Galbraith
On Sat, 2007-03-31 at 08:31 +0200, Mike Galbraith wrote: On Fri, 2007-03-30 at 22:41 -0700, Xenofon Antidides wrote: Patch makes X yuck with any load. I stick with SD. General comment directed at nobody in particular: If anyone thinks the current scheduler sucks rocks, maybe they should try

[test] hackbench.c interactivity results: vanilla versus SD/RSDL

2007-03-29 Thread Ingo Molnar
* Ingo Molnar <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > * Con Kolivas <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > I'm cautiously optimistic that we're at the thin edge of the bugfix > > wedge now. [...] > and the numbers he posted: > > http://marc.info/?l=linux-kernel=117448900626028=2 > > his test conclusion was

[test] hackbench.c interactivity results: vanilla versus SD/RSDL

2007-03-29 Thread Ingo Molnar
* Ingo Molnar [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: * Con Kolivas [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I'm cautiously optimistic that we're at the thin edge of the bugfix wedge now. [...] and the numbers he posted: http://marc.info/?l=linux-kernelm=117448900626028w=2 his test conclusion was that under