Re: LIO - the broken iSCSI target implementation

2013-01-19 Thread Fubo Chen
On Fri, Jan 18, 2013 at 9:21 PM, wrote: > Please don't start another "SCST Vs. LIO" holy war here. We all know why LIO > belongs to Linux kernel and SCST does not. SCST is not familiar to me. Does this mean that SCST is competition for the StarWind products but LIO not ? Fubo. -- To

Re: LIO - the broken iSCSI target implementation

2013-01-19 Thread Ritesh Raj Sarraf
On Fri, Jan 18, 2013 at 4:01 AM, Andy Grover wrote: > On 01/17/2013 12:56 PM, Nicholas A. Bellinger wrote: >> On Thu, 2013-01-17 at 02:19 +0100, Andreas Steinmetz wrote: >>> This is not a technical point of view. This is a more or less political >>> and user point of view. And for any replies,

Re: LIO - the broken iSCSI target implementation

2013-01-19 Thread Ritesh Raj Sarraf
On Fri, Jan 18, 2013 at 4:01 AM, Andy Grover agro...@redhat.com wrote: On 01/17/2013 12:56 PM, Nicholas A. Bellinger wrote: On Thu, 2013-01-17 at 02:19 +0100, Andreas Steinmetz wrote: This is not a technical point of view. This is a more or less political and user point of view. And for any

Re: LIO - the broken iSCSI target implementation

2013-01-19 Thread Fubo Chen
On Fri, Jan 18, 2013 at 9:21 PM, pr...@starwindsoftware.com wrote: Please don't start another SCST Vs. LIO holy war here. We all know why LIO belongs to Linux kernel and SCST does not. SCST is not familiar to me. Does this mean that SCST is competition for the StarWind products but LIO not ?

Re: LIO - the broken iSCSI target implementation

2013-01-18 Thread promo
Please don't start another "SCST Vs. LIO" holy war here. We all know why LIO belongs to Linux kernel and SCST does not. On Friday, January 18, 2013 3:54:18 AM UTC+2, Vladislav Bolkhovitin wrote: > Andreas Steinmetz, on 01/16/2013 08:19 PM wrote: > > > Thus, lio (http://www.linux-iscsi.org/)

Re: LIO - the broken iSCSI target implementation

2013-01-18 Thread promo
Please don't start another SCST Vs. LIO holy war here. We all know why LIO belongs to Linux kernel and SCST does not. On Friday, January 18, 2013 3:54:18 AM UTC+2, Vladislav Bolkhovitin wrote: Andreas Steinmetz, on 01/16/2013 08:19 PM wrote: Thus, lio (http://www.linux-iscsi.org/) seemed to

Re: LIO - the broken iSCSI target implementation

2013-01-17 Thread Vladislav Bolkhovitin
Andreas Steinmetz, on 01/16/2013 08:19 PM wrote: Thus, lio (http://www.linux-iscsi.org/) seemed to be the politically and technically favoured solution. [...] The fun part of it was that I finally ended up using SCST - which was refrained from kernel inclusion for technical reasons beyond

Re: LIO - the broken iSCSI target implementation

2013-01-17 Thread Nicholas A. Bellinger
On Thu, 2013-01-17 at 14:31 -0800, Andy Grover wrote: > On 01/17/2013 12:56 PM, Nicholas A. Bellinger wrote: > > On Thu, 2013-01-17 at 02:19 +0100, Andreas Steinmetz wrote: > >> This is not a technical point of view. This is a more or less political > >> and user point of view. And for any

Re: LIO - the broken iSCSI target implementation

2013-01-17 Thread Linus Torvalds
On Thu, Jan 17, 2013 at 2:31 PM, Andy Grover wrote: > > No... actually upstream targetcli/rtslib are not very well maintained. > Around 5 patches each in the last year. > > Meanwhile, I have been actively maintaining branches at > github.com/agrover/targetcli-fb and github.com/agrover/rtslib-fb.

Re: LIO - the broken iSCSI target implementation

2013-01-17 Thread Andy Grover
On 01/17/2013 12:56 PM, Nicholas A. Bellinger wrote: > On Thu, 2013-01-17 at 02:19 +0100, Andreas Steinmetz wrote: >> This is not a technical point of view. This is a more or less political >> and user point of view. And for any replies, I'm not subscribed (haven't >> been now for years). >> >> As

Re: LIO - the broken iSCSI target implementation

2013-01-17 Thread Nicholas A. Bellinger
On Thu, 2013-01-17 at 12:56 -0800, Nicholas A. Bellinger wrote: > Hi Andreas, > > On Thu, 2013-01-17 at 02:19 +0100, Andreas Steinmetz wrote: > > This is not a technical point of view. This is a more or less political > > and user point of view. And for any replies, I'm not subscribed (haven't >

Re: LIO - the broken iSCSI target implementation

2013-01-17 Thread Nicholas A. Bellinger
Hi Andreas, On Thu, 2013-01-17 at 02:19 +0100, Andreas Steinmetz wrote: > This is not a technical point of view. This is a more or less political > and user point of view. And for any replies, I'm not subscribed (haven't > been now for years). > > As a user, I was in need for an iSCSI target.

Re: LIO - the broken iSCSI target implementation

2013-01-17 Thread Nicholas A. Bellinger
Hi Andreas, On Thu, 2013-01-17 at 02:19 +0100, Andreas Steinmetz wrote: This is not a technical point of view. This is a more or less political and user point of view. And for any replies, I'm not subscribed (haven't been now for years). As a user, I was in need for an iSCSI target.

Re: LIO - the broken iSCSI target implementation

2013-01-17 Thread Nicholas A. Bellinger
On Thu, 2013-01-17 at 12:56 -0800, Nicholas A. Bellinger wrote: Hi Andreas, On Thu, 2013-01-17 at 02:19 +0100, Andreas Steinmetz wrote: This is not a technical point of view. This is a more or less political and user point of view. And for any replies, I'm not subscribed (haven't been

Re: LIO - the broken iSCSI target implementation

2013-01-17 Thread Andy Grover
On 01/17/2013 12:56 PM, Nicholas A. Bellinger wrote: On Thu, 2013-01-17 at 02:19 +0100, Andreas Steinmetz wrote: This is not a technical point of view. This is a more or less political and user point of view. And for any replies, I'm not subscribed (haven't been now for years). As a user, I

Re: LIO - the broken iSCSI target implementation

2013-01-17 Thread Linus Torvalds
On Thu, Jan 17, 2013 at 2:31 PM, Andy Grover agro...@redhat.com wrote: No... actually upstream targetcli/rtslib are not very well maintained. Around 5 patches each in the last year. Meanwhile, I have been actively maintaining branches at github.com/agrover/targetcli-fb and

Re: LIO - the broken iSCSI target implementation

2013-01-17 Thread Nicholas A. Bellinger
On Thu, 2013-01-17 at 14:31 -0800, Andy Grover wrote: On 01/17/2013 12:56 PM, Nicholas A. Bellinger wrote: On Thu, 2013-01-17 at 02:19 +0100, Andreas Steinmetz wrote: This is not a technical point of view. This is a more or less political and user point of view. And for any replies, I'm not

Re: LIO - the broken iSCSI target implementation

2013-01-17 Thread Vladislav Bolkhovitin
Andreas Steinmetz, on 01/16/2013 08:19 PM wrote: Thus, lio (http://www.linux-iscsi.org/) seemed to be the politically and technically favoured solution. [...] The fun part of it was that I finally ended up using SCST - which was refrained from kernel inclusion for technical reasons beyond

LIO - the broken iSCSI target implementation

2013-01-16 Thread Andreas Steinmetz
This is not a technical point of view. This is a more or less political and user point of view. And for any replies, I'm not subscribed (haven't been now for years). As a user, I was in need for an iSCSI target. Actually, I needed to export a SAS tape device (Ultrium 5) - which is one of the

LIO - the broken iSCSI target implementation

2013-01-16 Thread Andreas Steinmetz
This is not a technical point of view. This is a more or less political and user point of view. And for any replies, I'm not subscribed (haven't been now for years). As a user, I was in need for an iSCSI target. Actually, I needed to export a SAS tape device (Ultrium 5) - which is one of the