Re: New Benchmark tools, lookie looky........

2000-10-18 Thread Rogier Wolff
Larry McVoy wrote: > > As someone pointed out, the URLs I sent are wrong, they are > > http://www.bitmover.com/disks/bw.gif > http://www.bitmover.com/disks/seek.gif http://www.bitwizard.nl/maxtor_2.speeds.gif (yes, vertical axis is MB per second) is what my measurement tool makes

Re: New Benchmark tools, lookie looky........

2000-10-18 Thread Rogier Wolff
Larry McVoy wrote: As someone pointed out, the URLs I sent are wrong, they are http://www.bitmover.com/disks/bw.gif http://www.bitmover.com/disks/seek.gif http://www.bitwizard.nl/maxtor_2.speeds.gif (yes, vertical axis is MB per second) is what my measurement tool makes of

Re: New Benchmark tools, lookie looky........

2000-10-17 Thread Larry McVoy
As someone pointed out, the URLs I sent are wrong, they are http://www.bitmover.com/disks/bw.gif http://www.bitmover.com/disks/seek.gif I forgot the disks part. -- --- Larry McVoy lm at bitmover.com http://www.bitmover.com/lm - To unsubscribe from this

Re: New Benchmark tools, lookie looky........

2000-10-17 Thread Andre Hedrick
On Tue, 17 Oct 2000, Larry McVoy wrote: > Sure, I did it over the protests of other people and I learned something, > you have every right to do the same thing. In fact, it's great that you > are doing it. Just don't get all bent out of shape if you tweaking the > elevator alg does nothing

Re: New Benchmark tools, lookie looky........

2000-10-17 Thread Vojtech Pavlik
On Tue, Oct 17, 2000 at 09:49:35AM -0700, Andre Hedrick wrote: > > raw disks? block disks? both work. > > Sorry, what I forgot to tell you is that I am doing direct access at the > IO level. This is underneath the driver. This is in the realm of > bit-banging but with sanity. But does this

Re: New Benchmark tools, lookie looky........

2000-10-17 Thread Andre Hedrick
On Tue, 17 Oct 2000, Malcolm Beattie wrote: > Larry McVoy writes: > > On Tue, Oct 17, 2000 at 09:21:00AM -0700, Andre Hedrick wrote: > > > Expand 'traces' ... O-SCOPE analyizer? > > > > Insert a ring buffer into the disk sort entry point. Add a userland process > > which reads this ring buffer

Re: New Benchmark tools, lookie looky........

2000-10-17 Thread Malcolm Beattie
Larry McVoy writes: > On Tue, Oct 17, 2000 at 09:21:00AM -0700, Andre Hedrick wrote: > > Expand 'traces' ... O-SCOPE analyizer? > > Insert a ring buffer into the disk sort entry point. Add a userland process > which reads this ring buffer and gets the actual requests in the actual order > they

Re: New Benchmark tools, lookie looky........

2000-10-17 Thread Andre Hedrick
On Tue, 17 Oct 2000, Larry McVoy wrote: > If you do all this, write a paper, Usenix loves this junk. Sorry dyslexic. > > How can LMbench access things that I can but a FS can not? > > raw disks? block disks? both work. Sorry, what I forgot to tell you is that I am doing direct

Re: New Benchmark tools, lookie looky........

2000-10-17 Thread Larry McVoy
On Tue, Oct 17, 2000 at 09:21:00AM -0700, Andre Hedrick wrote: > On Tue, 17 Oct 2000, Larry McVoy wrote: > > > On Tue, Oct 17, 2000 at 11:23:30AM +0200, Vojtech Pavlik wrote: > > > Well, I know quite well what this can bring us - with precise profiling > > > we could see the exact geometry of

Re: New Benchmark tools, lookie looky........

2000-10-17 Thread Larry McVoy
On Tue, Oct 17, 2000 at 11:23:30AM +0200, Vojtech Pavlik wrote: > Well, I know quite well what this can bring us - with precise profiling > we could see the exact geometry of the drive LMbench has had something which does this for years. Look at http://www.bitmover.com/bw.gif

Re: New Benchmark tools, lookie looky........

2000-10-17 Thread Vojtech Pavlik
On Tue, Oct 17, 2000 at 01:15:26AM -0700, Andre Hedrick wrote: > On Tue, 17 Oct 2000, Vojtech Pavlik wrote: > > > > Now we can profile drives to super-charge the elevator!! > > > > I doubt this will ever happen. We'll see IDE drives reorder the > > requests inside their caches sooner. The

Re: New Benchmark tools, lookie looky........

2000-10-17 Thread Matthias Andree
On Tue, 17 Oct 2000, Andre Hedrick wrote: > You do not understand the nature of what the test can generate. > We can decode the sweep pattern now. > > Instead of 0->End of drive. > > PlatterOD->PlatterID top > PlatterOD->PlatterID bottom. > > This will get us zone-profiles an determine where

Re: New Benchmark tools, lookie looky........

2000-10-17 Thread Andre Hedrick
On Tue, 17 Oct 2000, Vojtech Pavlik wrote: > > Now we can profile drives to super-charge the elevator!! > > I doubt this will ever happen. We'll see IDE drives reorder the > requests inside their caches sooner. The elevator will always be more > important to get right in terms of fairness to

Re: New Benchmark tools, lookie looky........

2000-10-17 Thread Vojtech Pavlik
On Tue, Oct 17, 2000 at 12:31:42AM -0700, Andre Hedrick wrote: > > DiskPerf /dev/hde > Device: Maxtor 91536H2 Serial Number: N200PGDD > LBA 0 PIO Read Test = 5.32 MB/Sec (46.98 Seconds) > LBA 1 PIO Read Test = 5.32 MB/Sec (46.99 Seconds) > Outer Diameter

New Benchmark tools, lookie looky........

2000-10-17 Thread Andre Hedrick
DiskPerf /dev/hde Device: Maxtor 91536H2 Serial Number: N200PGDD LBA 0 PIO Read Test = 5.32 MB/Sec (46.98 Seconds) LBA 1 PIO Read Test = 5.32 MB/Sec (46.99 Seconds) Outer Diameter Sequential PIO Read Test = 5.29 MB/Sec (47.24 Seconds) Inner Diameter

New Benchmark tools, lookie looky........

2000-10-17 Thread Andre Hedrick
DiskPerf /dev/hde Device: Maxtor 91536H2 Serial Number: N200PGDD LBA 0 PIO Read Test = 5.32 MB/Sec (46.98 Seconds) LBA 1 PIO Read Test = 5.32 MB/Sec (46.99 Seconds) Outer Diameter Sequential PIO Read Test = 5.29 MB/Sec (47.24 Seconds) Inner Diameter

Re: New Benchmark tools, lookie looky........

2000-10-17 Thread Larry McVoy
On Tue, Oct 17, 2000 at 11:23:30AM +0200, Vojtech Pavlik wrote: Well, I know quite well what this can bring us - with precise profiling we could see the exact geometry of the drive LMbench has had something which does this for years. Look at http://www.bitmover.com/bw.gif

Re: New Benchmark tools, lookie looky........

2000-10-17 Thread Larry McVoy
On Tue, Oct 17, 2000 at 09:21:00AM -0700, Andre Hedrick wrote: On Tue, 17 Oct 2000, Larry McVoy wrote: On Tue, Oct 17, 2000 at 11:23:30AM +0200, Vojtech Pavlik wrote: Well, I know quite well what this can bring us - with precise profiling we could see the exact geometry of the drive

Re: New Benchmark tools, lookie looky........

2000-10-17 Thread Andre Hedrick
On Tue, 17 Oct 2000, Larry McVoy wrote: If you do all this, write a paper, Usenix loves this junk. Sorry dyslexic. How can LMbench access things that I can but a FS can not? raw disks? block disks? both work. Sorry, what I forgot to tell you is that I am doing direct access at

Re: New Benchmark tools, lookie looky........

2000-10-17 Thread Malcolm Beattie
Larry McVoy writes: On Tue, Oct 17, 2000 at 09:21:00AM -0700, Andre Hedrick wrote: Expand 'traces' ... O-SCOPE analyizer? Insert a ring buffer into the disk sort entry point. Add a userland process which reads this ring buffer and gets the actual requests in the actual order they are

Re: New Benchmark tools, lookie looky........

2000-10-17 Thread Andre Hedrick
On Tue, 17 Oct 2000, Malcolm Beattie wrote: Larry McVoy writes: On Tue, Oct 17, 2000 at 09:21:00AM -0700, Andre Hedrick wrote: Expand 'traces' ... O-SCOPE analyizer? Insert a ring buffer into the disk sort entry point. Add a userland process which reads this ring buffer and gets

Re: New Benchmark tools, lookie looky........

2000-10-17 Thread Vojtech Pavlik
On Tue, Oct 17, 2000 at 09:49:35AM -0700, Andre Hedrick wrote: raw disks? block disks? both work. Sorry, what I forgot to tell you is that I am doing direct access at the IO level. This is underneath the driver. This is in the realm of bit-banging but with sanity. But does this give

Re: New Benchmark tools, lookie looky........

2000-10-17 Thread Andre Hedrick
On Tue, 17 Oct 2000, Larry McVoy wrote: Sure, I did it over the protests of other people and I learned something, you have every right to do the same thing. In fact, it's great that you are doing it. Just don't get all bent out of shape if you tweaking the elevator alg does nothing (in

Re: New Benchmark tools, lookie looky........

2000-10-17 Thread Larry McVoy
As someone pointed out, the URLs I sent are wrong, they are http://www.bitmover.com/disks/bw.gif http://www.bitmover.com/disks/seek.gif I forgot the disks part. -- --- Larry McVoy lm at bitmover.com http://www.bitmover.com/lm - To unsubscribe from this